:Oh crap

Who would have thought that skin had grown so thin on GFY. ;)

Wouldnt it be easier just to tell em you are KB's brother ?

Nope, neither of those companies do.

Ill come out and say it.
ITs silly........

If the tube sites keep giving away free content and the webmaster shows keep giving away free registrations how will money ever be made!


Besides by charging for a pass it reduces the level of rift raft a the shows. I for one want less negros with guns at the shows I go to.

Im willing to bet there are less negros at a show where people pay than at a show where it is free.

Negros and people like the Anal Hobbit should pay if they want to come to shows.

I agree with AVN Chris. ITs just damn Silly. He wont say it but I will.

Its about saftey.

C'mon Mike... I saw that as Connor ribbing ya a bit. OF course a free show isn't going to be your deciding factor after having been in the biz now for what... 10 years straight?

Are you black?

That being said, check this idea out...

How about a main sponsor of the trade show BUYS the sponsorship for the online registration. Meaning, that in order to register, you must prove you're a webmaster by signing up for this companies sign up form. Imagine that you have over 1000 attendees signing up for your affiliate program in order to register for the show! They don't have to send traffic, but it puts them through a screener where they at least have to give their tax ID or Social Security # and website. Then, after signing up all of those people through to an affiliate program (which also regs them for the show in 1 swoop), how much would THAT cost for a sponsor? Probably enough that the show can be free to webmasters! And the show makes money!

Genius idea.

WG and I want 10% of this concept as a sponsorship to the first show to do this.

A given.

Oh man.

We all did.

Civilians pay to get in. I know for fact they did at Cybernet Expo in San Diego.

:Oh crap

What about all of the people that do not run websites, etc.?

An alternate concept... say somebody sponsors registration, they can give a discount to everyone of their clients, affiliates, friends, or whatever. It is along the same lines but instead of making traffic a requirement, it is a bonus.

Get back on track you goofballs. This thread is about some big mouth running his big mouth, not the price of shows in china. If you think this thread was about the price of a show you are just as big a dummy as AlienQ.

1000 of todays webmasters is not even worth the BW and storage space on the servers

Sounds great.

I want my 3%

I actually think some of the ideas being passed around this thread are positive. I personally would have preffered Alec to call me personally if he had a problem with me, as i approached him personally and asked if he would like to work together more cohesively in planning dates, etc.

If I crossed any lines I apologize, but honestly I was just answering Mitches request for free badges with my honest opinion on the matter. Opinions are like assholes, everyone has one.

If that was "slamming Xbiz" you be the judge.....

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Originally Posted by NetBilling
Free admission to all attendees? That would be awesome.

Thats a good one.......

Who would be silly enough to do that?????



Originally Posted by AVNChris
And all joking aside Mitch - there are several good reasons too charge for badges:

1. Qualification - If you pay for something you are invested. Unqualified offers and attendees attract high number but low quality.

2. Quality - We really dont want to be talking to Real Estate and Yahoos who are not in the industry. Charging for a badge cuts those asshats out.

3.Quantity - Even with the charge, we get the largest number of attendees of any industry show. Sponsors have time and again invested in our events because of that.

4. Event Quality - With the news that you will be hearing in the next few days you just may change your tune..... maybe

I love you man....

:1orglaugh

Only partially.

Adult.com used to do that as I recall. You had to be verified by any of the sponsors. Spread the love.

Jay I was being facetious

lol!

Wow Anthony, I really have no idea where that came from. Known you a loooooong time and the way you are personally and frankly I don't see anything libelous in Connor's post. But I definitely do in yours.

It was nice knowing ya, I guess.

Still a great idea.

I don't even think you need to have an affilaite program as the service to do this. It's just the screening process. Any program owner would love to see their stats after getting 1000 webmasters signing up for program, with those numbers, maybe at least 500 of them have affiliate traffic? Then after signing up, certainly a number of them will at least check out the program they just got signed up for, and a number of those people will send joins.

And if not, look at the branding. Everyone sees your program while signing up.

Anyway, sometimes ideas like this need to be explored deeper, we got something here.

$50k for the registration. Going once... Twice...

What, which show wants this $50k?

D your numbers aren't even close. :-) It is still an interesting idea, regardless. Something for people to think about, for sure.

You would be lucky to get 5 :2 cents:

So let me get this straight Jay, someone who infers that business is bad for a program owner is okay in your book, but what I said isn't?

Libelous? Which part? The part where I said I will never do business with Ynot, or the part where I asked Conner what's he's done in this industry other than Ynot?

For next one hour AGA having a special on hand grenades. Keep for this thread at top of page and I throw in complimantary claymore us army mine with purchase.

I read the whole thread what did he say that was libelous? Im confused. I have no dog in this fight but read the whole thing twice and cant figure what got you so angry. :)

You should have been at my table playing Black Jack, killed it....

I think its a free country and we in the Adult Industry should defend the First Amendment with our lives. Chris is one of the best sales people i have ever had the pleasure to work with.
Free or not free we all get what we pay for and pay for what we get.
I personally had a great time and met some amazing Industry leaders in Vegas this year.

I was hoping to get someone to pay the $50k for it so I can get my 10% (split with WG)!

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhh


LOL

But you're right, I just used some numbers on the theory that half of the people must have a link somewhere? I'd hope. But hey, maybe Datatank is right with his number.

I think you need to quit being whiney and thin skinned thats what I think.

Is your show successful? profitable?

If so the why the fuck are you whining about this

suck it up buttercup

It's your Show Helmy. Whatever you are doing and however you are doing it. It's working and it brings the industry together.

Great job. :thumbsup

Or, I inferred that I didn't really believe that the cost of a badge registration was REALLY a deciding factor for a major program. I thought that was obvious... apparently not.

avnjustin, you confuse achmed with twisted words. please for sake of english as second language please say for me what means you in straight words english.

All I'm going to say here Anthony, is reread Connor's post and think about it, then reread yours and think about it. My response to you needs no further clarification.

And since you will never do business with YNOT again, I'll make it easier for both of us by removing you from my ICQ and my AWW friends list. No need to accidentally cross paths again.

Obviously not, since I'm not the only one who took affront to it.

Did you miss that?

hurry americans, quickly, hand grenades almost gone. i sell just now to xxxjay 100 hand grenade. we having just 500 hand grenade left in stock. going fast. oh my, next show going to be so much funs for me. many explosion, not all from sexytime with paid womans.

Do what you gotta do Jay, he's your business partner, not mine.

I also removed Anthony from my AdultWhosWho after he choked me out in Vegas.

I removed you from my AdultWhoswho after reading your latest blog entry about asians.

I should have held on a second longer and saved the world from that article. :):):)

I remember a quote from Dokk, when I met him in Jamaica at the 2002 Negril Bash. "Why charge people to talk to each other?" I've always been a supporter of free registration, the Phoenix Forum grew to its currently popularity because of it. It was only after the show became overrun with non-industry people that it made sense to require an admission fee. But if you want to charge admission, give it back to the attendees either in paid entertainment, drinks, or food. :2 cents:

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Don't forget myspace top friends. Don't want the other kids at lunch to think you're a fink.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

we are all a part of the same industry, and whoever throws the show should decide the fees. it only takes a few attendees to be a success since 99% of the business is in the hands of a relative few.

Alec made a smart marketing move by introducing the free registrations for XBIZ Summer. People were (and still are, as evident by the page count of this post) definitely talking about it...and people took action by signing up and attending. Isn't that what good marketing is about? Regardless of your ability to "afford" to purchase a badge or register for free, it was thinking that was "out of the box" and differentiated this show from the others that are competing for attendance for the rest of the year.

Many large industry shows (not the adult industry) offer free registrations for attendees. The thinking being, the more attendees, the more chance a sponsor has to meet with a potential client. How the sponsor chooses to handle the attendees and those opportunities, is up to them. If you look at CES, they offer free registrations for attendees for all exhibits and seminars, up to a certain date. Beyond that time, there is a staggered deadline in which the registration price goes up. When checking in, on site, you must show 2 forms of id - 1 is a photo id and the second is an id that verifies that you are part of the industry (paystub, biz card, etc.). Something like this could easily be done in the adult industry.

Something else that is commonly done, in other industry shows, is the same registration process as above, but then sponsors also receive admission badges that can be given out by them. So if you miss the free cutoff date, you need to contact a show sponsor to get a free admission pass. A great opportunity for programs to meet up with potential affiliates before the show. Onsite registration procedures still apply - to verify the attendee.

Any parties that go on, in conjunction with the show, are generally thrown by individual companies, just like in adult. These are invite only. You get a ticket/pass or you don't get in. There's no reason this can't be done here as well.

:2 cents: