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AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 07-17-2008 02:36 PM

Can this stupid thread die for fucks sakes? Jeesus you bitches cry about everything.
Pretentious a little maybe?

Yeah I think so.

Both AVN and XBIZ is pure shit and just charge you people as much as they can for the stupid print of nonsensical crap they sputter about.

RyuLion 07-17-2008 02:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DatingGold (Post 14471713)
I think there would be riff raff with or without free passes.

Internext Vegas has the most non industry attendees as far as I recall. It's annoying no matter what show but it is what it is.

I missed Xbiz Vegas this year because I didn't think anyone would be at the show that I hadn't seen in the last 60 days.

We didn't sponsor anything although it's in our budget cause I'm still bitter Eroticy won the Xbiz Award. There is no way people voted for Eroticy over DatingGold, AFF, Fling or SexSearch. In hindsight giving Eroticy the award probably did no good for Xbiz since they fell off the planet. Maybe we'll win it this year, but Im not holding my breath.

oh wow dude!
Very nice said..:thumbsup

BAKO 07-17-2008 02:41 PM

Long thread

Honez 07-17-2008 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SWorldMegan (Post 14472389)
I'm sorry all i heard was ... blah, blah, blah ... i'm a dirty whore!!

**** Dirty Whore BUMP ****

xoxo,
Megan

Did someone say dirty whore?

Domain Diva 07-17-2008 02:53 PM

I think it was aimed at baddog Honez

MeganS 07-17-2008 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Honez (Post 14472443)
Did someone say dirty whore?

It's my new saying of the week ...

For some reason .. this cat picture kills me!

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y13...1/whore-10.jpg

xoxo,
Megan

pocketkangaroo 07-17-2008 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana Claire (Post 14472353)
I disagree Shap,yes you have many years experience over me but l do know a lot of business can be done at shows in fact I got my biggest ever contract at the New York show

I do mainstream shows also and they dont produce any more results than adult shows


Many people have mentioned it before a show is what you make it.

No offense, but you wear t-shirts to shows. There is a big difference in the jobs of what most people go to shows for and what you go to shows for.

pocketkangaroo 07-17-2008 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor (Post 14468552)
1) Might learn something at seminars, 2) networking in person builds contacts and relationships, 3) it's fun.... parties.

There are additional reasons... but I've been in the industry since 1997 and I always attend a bunch of shows every year. It's often worth the expense.

While this may be true, none of the shows promote it toward the average affiliate. Almost every promotion thread goes into "Can't wait to get wasted with you bro" mode within seconds. There is little to no mention of the seminars or speakers. Lets look at a couple examples:

Internext is in a couple weeks. Here is their seminar list. Now for the most part, the list is real vague. I mean "How to be a succesful affiliate"? How about getting more in-depth. Seminars on SEO, PPC, social networking. What about other issues that effect affiliates such as hosting, development, and emerging technologies. Even the ones that are interesting don't list any information. Is the domain name seminar being run by someone with a lot of experience in the field or just some guy off the street? The entire seminar portion of the site is secondary to everything else.

And this isn't a knock on Internext, all shows do it. Atlanta Forum doesn't even have their presenters or seminars listed.

And perhaps that's the whole point. The seminars and learning is secondary to the parties. But the average affiliate who may not want to dish out a couple thousand dollars to attend a show that he really doesn't know what he'll get out of it. I'm sure the show is fun. I'm also sure fun is a weekend at Wrigley Field. While having fun at a conference is a plus, it's not why I'd attend one. It's also probably not why a lot of average affiliates would attend one.

But the shows do well enough now that they don't seem to need new blood. I have heard a lot of programs ask why I won't be going to a show, and I've seen a lot bitch about not having many new people at them. The whole thing comes across to me like a big party that is masked as a business event. Maybe that's not what it is, but that's how it's sold to the industry. If I'm going to spend time and money to party, I'll do it with friends and somewhere of my choosing. If I'm going to gain something businesswise, then I'll attend a show. I've found networking can be done just as easily online and over the phone.

This isn't a knock on any of the conventions at all either. Just an explanation on why affiliates may not be flocking to these events.

baddog 07-17-2008 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14472276)
im thinking about it the chicago one

You can join us for dinner if you decide to attend.

uno 07-17-2008 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Connor (Post 14468552)
1) Might learn something at seminars

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

tony286 07-17-2008 10:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 14472793)
You can join us for dinner if you decide to attend.

that would be very cool.

JFK 07-18-2008 12:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14472776)
While this may be true, none of the shows promote it toward the average affiliate. Almost every promotion thread goes into "Can't wait to get wasted with you bro" mode within seconds. There is little to no mention of the seminars or speakers. Lets look at a couple examples:

Internext is in a couple weeks. Here is their seminar list. Now for the most part, the list is real vague. I mean "How to be a succesful affiliate"? How about getting more in-depth. Seminars on SEO, PPC, social networking. What about other issues that effect affiliates such as hosting, development, and emerging technologies. Even the ones that are interesting don't list any information. Is the domain name seminar being run by someone with a lot of experience in the field or just some guy off the street? The entire seminar portion of the site is secondary to everything else.

And this isn't a knock on Internext, all shows do it. Atlanta Forum doesn't even have their presenters or seminars listed.

And perhaps that's the whole point. The seminars and learning is secondary to the parties. But the average affiliate who may not want to dish out a couple thousand dollars to attend a show that he really doesn't know what he'll get out of it. I'm sure the show is fun. I'm also sure fun is a weekend at Wrigley Field. While having fun at a conference is a plus, it's not why I'd attend one. It's also probably not why a lot of average affiliates would attend one.

But the shows do well enough now that they don't seem to need new blood. I have heard a lot of programs ask why I won't be going to a show, and I've seen a lot bitch about not having many new people at them. The whole thing comes across to me like a big party that is masked as a business event. Maybe that's not what it is, but that's how it's sold to the industry. If I'm going to spend time and money to party, I'll do it with friends and somewhere of my choosing. If I'm going to gain something businesswise, then I'll attend a show. I've found networking can be done just as easily online and over the phone.

This isn't a knock on any of the conventions at all either. Just an explanation on why affiliates may not be flocking to these events.

Now why would you Drag The Atlanta Forum into this ? Getting professional trainers lined up is not as easy as asking one of your bros to please get up there and sub for the guy who's too hung over to appear.

SweetT told me himself months ago, that he wanted this show to be remembered for the seminars more than the parties. "The Business of the Business."

From what I hear tru back channels, The Atlanta Forum will be announcing the best line up of seminars we have seen so far in the history of the adult internet. This should be done prior to the end of next week! So do yourself a favour, check back and I hope to see you there:thumbsup

trishauptown 07-18-2008 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AaliyahLove (Post 14467043)
I heart GFY drama:thumbsup

Tell KB thanks for sharing :winkwink: It was sweet!!!!!!

kristin 07-18-2008 11:33 AM

The only internet shows I register for each year is Miami & Phoenix because you have to in order to be in the hotel.

pocketkangaroo 07-18-2008 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JFK (Post 14474476)
Now why would you Drag The Atlanta Forum into this ? Getting professional trainers lined up is not as easy as asking one of your bros to please get up there and sub for the guy who's too hung over to appear.

SweetT told me himself months ago, that he wanted this show to be remembered for the seminars more than the parties. "The Business of the Business."

From what I hear tru back channels, The Atlanta Forum will be announcing the best line up of seminars we have seen so far in the history of the adult internet. This should be done prior to the end of next week! So do yourself a favour, check back and I hope to see you there:thumbsup

I wasn't dragging them into it. It wasn't even a negative remark. It was more a statement on how some of these shows could attract more regular affiliates.

Fact is that for the most part, the shows are advertised as big parties. There is little discussion of seminars or what someone could learn there. Atlanta Forum has their whole schedule page filled with all the parties going on. The seminar page isn't touched. I think it would be awesome if they had great seminars with great speakers, but is it what they're selling? I mean by the time that gets settled and up, will it be tough to get a room?

And I apologize if it came out the wrong way. It was really more about how shows could attract more affiliates. I think the affiliate making $100k a year is going to look at the shows that are out there, see all the parties, and perhaps decide it's not worth forking over a few grand.

AaliyahLove 07-18-2008 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by trishauptown (Post 14476575)
Tell KB thanks for sharing :winkwink: It was sweet!!!!!!

Bwahahhahahah Trisha, I am liking you more and more every day.. In fact, you are one of my top myspace friends now LOL :1orglaugh

Shap 07-18-2008 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Banana Claire (Post 14472353)
I disagree Shap,yes you have many years experience over me but l do know a lot of business can be done at shows in fact I got my biggest ever contract at the New York show

I do mainstream shows also and they dont produce any more results than adult shows


Many people have mentioned it before a show is what you make it.

You missed my point. You got business done because everyone was in one location at the same time. You didn't learn or get anything from the show itself.

cattivo-3xeg 07-18-2008 12:40 PM

I think a good way to keep clowns out but still have free registration is to only give free registration to past attendees. just my .02

JFK 07-18-2008 12:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pocketkangaroo (Post 14477129)
I wasn't dragging them into it. It wasn't even a negative remark. It was more a statement on how some of these shows could attract more regular affiliates.

Fact is that for the most part, the shows are advertised as big parties. There is little discussion of seminars or what someone could learn there. Atlanta Forum has their whole schedule page filled with all the parties going on. The seminar page isn't touched. I think it would be awesome if they had great seminars with great speakers, but is it what they're selling? I mean by the time that gets settled and up, will it be tough to get a room?

And I apologize if it came out the wrong way. It was really more about how shows could attract more affiliates. I think the affiliate making $100k a year is going to look at the shows that are out there, see all the parties, and perhaps decide it's not worth forking over a few grand.

Thanks for your reply ! I think if you are out to learn something to advance your self in the business, you will be pleasantly surprised by the line up of seminars at The Atlanta Forum. Schedule should be fully updated by the end of next week :thumbsup

Wex777 07-18-2008 01:07 PM

Anyone who goes to one of these shows and can't make back the cost of the badge using a contact he met their shouldn't be going to shows. Plain and simple!

JFK 07-18-2008 01:12 PM

300 Free registrations:thumbsup


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