Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559593)

All points well taken. Perhaps my manifesto was a bit overboard but it was the truth. The only agenda I have is for the truth. Now it very well may turn out that everything network news has said is true. If so, thats what I will present. But I tend to think that it is the furthest thing from the true. I am not here to sensationalize anything.

I am all for being cool with people, even those I disagree with until they begin posting fake chats to try and discredit an honest attempt to do something positive.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14559676)

Yeah but the thing here is: we haven't been posting fake chats. You imed me, I'm simply showing people what a lying coward clown you are.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559661)

I am asking the questions that viewers will want to know. Does it make sense for me to go in great length about TGPs when the viewer will not even know what it stands for. Theres so many ways for this documentary to go and so much information to cover. While it is still in the infancy stage, I am trying gauge what is the better route and what topics provide the more interesting story to cover.

But its funny that there are some expecting me to divulge all this information about myself, my work, and my credit meanwhile, they too hide behind persona. The difference between most, is that my involvement with this documentary will most likely end my career in the mainstream market. I am not so sure I am wishing to give that up just yet. However, artistically, I feel compelled to cover this story on the adult world. But just like many involved in adult, they choose to keep their real names and associations private for the same fear of criticism and discrimination that society places on all involved in it.

The reality is that unless I come out with a documentary that totally denounces porn and paints you in poor negative, abusive nature, my mainstream options will decrease. How many people in this industry right now, that are open about what they do and if they quit your industry today, could get a real job that required something completely different than what they do now ( I am not talking about webmasters.) How many porn directors have honestly transitioned to mainstream, major budget films? ZERO. I still have that aspiration but my desire for the truth is far greater at this time.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559734)

I have already posted the pics that show the time the account was created which was after your fake chat thread.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14559711)

Your manifest isnt based on the truth? Matt its based on generalizations. Like you named Tawney Stone but you didnt do your home work. So how can you say its based on truth? Once again its seems you have a very clear agenda and its not positive. You wouldn't be the first to use us as a stepping stone or to get ratings. lol Best of luck to you.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14559745)

Yes and I already replied with a pic of the Photoshop retail box.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14559739)

It didn't hurt the secret lives of women to be positive. Didn't hurt the real sex people or pornatopia or penn and teller. It didnt hurt the people who created Seymour Butts show family business.Gregory Dark went from porn to music video including Mandy Moore and I think did a film or two.Again you have a very negative view.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559762)

It is based on truth. What part of anything I said was untrue? The Tawney thing was pointed out and I digressed on that even though the statement I wrote was true. Her age hasnt changed on the site since it launched.

I suppose you will have to wait and see if I have an agenda or not. And when you do see that I don't, all I would like is a simple apology.

Originally Posted by ADL Colin (Post 14559769)

Why interview people on an adult messageboard for a video documentary? Would seem to make more sense to me to just contact some of the more iconoclastic or controversial people in the industry, interview them on cam and hope for some fireworks

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559781)

And those shows that you have stated are all under contract to HBO and Showtime and are all on pay cable. Depending on the amount of success of this, I will have to make a decision then what to do. But right now, I am doing nothing more than protecting my career the same many here have chosen to do.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14559792)

Not everyone does those things you spoke about. As far as Tawney its fantasy not reality, you really don't understand that? All I can go by is your words, so in your manifesto you think we are pretty fucked up and then your last blog entry you dont paint a pretty picture and its seems to going to lowest common denominator. And you're surprised I think you are going to go negative? You're kidding right?

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14559809)

You said if you go positive your career is over, I showed you a bunch that were positive and their careers arent over Also a porn guy who did music videos for 16 yr old female singers.
Also if your worried about protecting you career then you will not going to be a very interesting film maker. The great ones take risks.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559762)

It is based on truth. What part of anything I said was untrue? The Tawney thing was pointed out and I digressed on that even though the statement I wrote was true. Her age hasnt changed on the site since it launched.

I suppose you will have to wait and see if I have an agenda or not. And when you do see that I don't, all I would like is a simple apology.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559821)

For who I work with, it would be a death knell. And frankly, working for any pay cable is not what I wish to do. Thats why I have chose the path I have.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559815)

Actually, I am surprised. I do think many of those companies are fucking up. Because anyone of those ideas could help a slow sales market prevent further decline if not even help it rebound.

The latest blog entry dealt with 2257, so I will assume you are referring to the previous one. Those are the same questions always be posed of the adult industry and those are the questions that I intend to strike down. Have any of you ever watched a true documentary? You always ask the questions before giving the answers. Its a way to involve the viewers and get them to make a decision before you provide them the answer. That is where real change takes place. Having a viewer recall their previous perception and then provide the answers that proves it wrong while providing them with a new informed perception.

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14559681)

Dude you are not going to be a hero.

You need to focus on something more specific than "The Truth"

You know how many people have tried to tell "The Truth!" before you?

What's your story going to be about? who or what are you going to follow?

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14559828)

:1orglaugh Dude you are bent out of shape about Tawnee Stone's website saying she is 19 after 5 years?

You think that is a bad thing and surfers are being lied to?

Well you can take one of the biggest players in Adult industry history and write him off your list of people who will talk to you..

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14559842)

See once again if you did your homework you would know. There are sites where customers can win things. Also there are shit load of sites where girls and sites have fans be in scenes.
Again for someone who is going to be positive, I haven't read one thing you have written that's positive only the word positive. If Im wrong please show me. I have no problem saying I was wrong.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559868)

Out of all the webmasters' problem section, this is the only thing you pull out and address?

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559885)

But the same sites, webmasters, sponsors etc.. experiencing the slow sales and bitching about it are the ones who aren't doing those things.

Not everyone is fucking up, but the number is far greater tan those that are doing it right.

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14559838)

You just said you wanted to sell the docu to Pay Cable... wtf are you talking about.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559766)

Dude, will yo be at Internext? I will be there. Perhaps that would provide a better forum for you and I discuss and handle business if you catch my drift.

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14559900)

I address it because it was just brought up.

Interesting how you first say you are here to present the truth the positive view of the adult industry the view mainstream media ignores...

But now you are talking about problems with tours lying about ages?

Seems to me you are full of shit about something...



Interesting comments from you I must say...

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14559933)

Mattsbeachhouse has been very busy.

http://www.mikesouth.com/reader-mail...4/#comment-820

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14559915)

Yeah I'll be there and when I see you I'll kick the fuck out of you, how's about that shit? Make a doc about that you cocksucker.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14559915)

Yeah I'll be there and when I see you I'll kick the fuck out of you, how's about that shit? Make a doc about that you cocksucker.

Originally Posted by klaze (Post 14559933)

Mattsbeachhouse has been very busy.

http://www.mikesouth.com/reader-mail...4/#comment-820

For a newb he sure has an opinion..

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559885)

But the same sites, webmasters, sponsors etc.. experiencing the slow sales and bitching about it are the ones who aren't doing those things.

Not everyone is fucking up, but the number is far greater tan those that are doing it right.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559949)

I wouldnt be so sure of the outcome there Shirley.

Originally Posted by tony404 (Post 14559956)

What are you basing that on? Gods knows how many porn sites there are online. You visited them all? Also the economy is in the toilet that does effect who buys and who doesnt. People are losing homes, jobs and the cost of everything is going up.Banks are cutting peoples open credit lines,this all does effect us. Tubes effect us, youporn is only 7 behind amazon in alexa. If you think that doesnt effect sales I got a bridge to sell you. Its not all one thing, its a bunch of things. Are there some with questionable practices yes just like there are in every industry on the planet.
As far as making the customer happy. Let me tell you a story, when we started we were a free site,it was to promote my wifes webcam work. We gave them 75 to 125 new exclusive pictures every month for free and you know what people bitched and it was free. No pops, no upsales the only thing it spoke about was when my wife was on webcam and it wasnt good enough they wanted more and it was fucking free.
I dont give you permission to use this. Better safe than sorry. lol

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559955)

Whoever said I was a newb?

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14559977)

Okay how about we arrange a one on one, winner gets $5k. Put your money where your mouth is. You can talk shit all day long on AIM but when it comes to the crunch you don't have the balls to face me. I hit people in their wallets mostly, but I'll make an exception to that rule this time and take the 5k cash and give you a beat down in front of my team here at gfy. When I say team I mean literally couple hundred guys on gfy that roll with me. Average street Joe Mac VS Dating Game Expert, who's gonna win? I'll put 5k on it that I will own your ass.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559979)

One needs to look no further than the major porn producers laying off people. I am positive the economy has a lot to do with it. I am sure piracy lends it fair share as well. But your industry is no different than any other industry from those same issues. Movies, music, etc... all suffer from theft. All are facing the same down economy. So when the competition remains the same or increases for what is now a smaller portion of the pie, you have to evolve and raise the value to retain or gain new sales otherwise, you risk losing that sale to some other company within your industry or to another industry altogether.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14559991)

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14560000)

He just said the economy affects shit. You suck at this.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14559997)

Dude, seriously? How old are you? Doesnt GFY have age limits? But hey, since it will be in a public setting, video can be made without permission nor securing any rights or compensation. I wonder how the editing would look in post? I ask you a question, camera is rolling, and you and your "200 memba gangstas" jump me? Sounds great Sally. Count me in.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14560026)

I never said my team would jump you. They may snatch your wallet and your fake gold chain though for fronting.

You wanna put me in the doc, by all means do, I'm known here. I'm probably one of the biggest prodigies in the industry, up and coming dating game smasher, you're just a spectator. All the guys I run with on here make more paper than you and your friends, family combined. We don't fuck around with kids like you who try to come at us sideways trying to get info from us on how we make our change.

You wanna step to me at the show go ahead, but I'm warning you, you are going to be pissing on yourself.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14560050)

Wow, and humble too. I will be there my friend. If you have to brag this much, surely you are compensating for something...so bring you're posse...it should be fun.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14560066)

Pretty much everyone there except GrouchyAdmin is my posse. This is gonna be like you sat in a dark room with a thousand mosquitoes buzzing at you.

Originally Posted by mattsbeachhouse (Post 14560077)

If you claim so Michelle. Which of those bitch names would you like to be called after you get put down? I have given you so many to choose from cock chugger.

Originally Posted by DatingGameExpert (Post 14560087)

You want me to be a girl so you can try to have sex with me. Listen, I'll see you at the show then we'll see who goes down..