mattsbeachhouse

I have posted in other threads about a documentary I am working about the adult industry. In coming up with my research, I would like to ask some questions of those who wish to answer.

In trying to understand just why the internet is such a viable vehicle for porn, what were the major reasons for getting involved in porn? Was it the money, the girls, etc...? What is the typical type of equipment content providers use for production?

If anyone would care to explain just how being an affiliate works. Nothing to complex as it will confuse most viewers. How do webmasters/affiliates obtain traffic? Do they rely solely on content made available by the sponsor or do they use their own produced content to drive traffic to the sponsors site?

What can a relatively new webmaster expect to make in adult the first year?

I am sure I will come up with other questions later on. If you do not mind being referenced for this research, please state so.

Thanks.

mattsbeachhouse

More questions.

Do gays and minorities suffer from the same types of discrimination in adult that they experience in the traditional job market?

Deej

where is this being published?

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mattsbeachhouse

Its not being published anywhere. Its for a documentary film. Distribution is currently being worked on and should be decided here fairly soon (depends on the outcome of pay cable deal). Worst case, it will be made available on the web.

Deej

Hrrmmm... great research idea, but...

A lot of affiliates dont too much care for mainstream media...

Myself, it wont effect me, but one reason youre not getting a lot of responses is due to the fact that when our industry is dawned a light upon to the public, It brings people that either dont know what their doing and just want to think theyre working in porn or god forbid the ones that actually might know what theyre doing and become competition. No one wants any percentage of traffic taken away.

Some will answer questions, but as you can see, no one is jumping to fill your answer box

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For me, it started as a fun side project of producing low end fetish content for a guy's website. After 6 months of that, I realized that I could make cash shooting for myself as well. Over the years, it grew and grew. I now shoot for 3 video lines of my own, and run a handful of sites including my affiliate program. I now do it for the fun, the cash, and of course running around with hot women shooting kinky content is always a plus.

The internet is the most viable vehicle for me, since as a start up I was able to start making an immediate return on my product. Within minutes I can start to make cash from a new video that I put online.

I look at the online adult industry as tapping into a money network. You earn your position in it buy either providing content, running a program, or being a webmaster (at least on the very basics). Some people do just one thing, some do all. But you need all 3 to keep the network alive. Person 'A' shots the content, Person 'B' gets the content online and provides tools for webmasters (person 'C'), Person 'C', takes those tools and finds the end users who buy the content. Again, this is all a very basic explanation of what is really takes.

The gear people use is way to broad to explain, from point and shoots to near Hollywood levels.

There is a little of my 2 cents. If you want to reference me, contact me.

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That said, I agree with Deej.

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DatingGameExpert

Fuck that shit, don't answer this guy. No offense to the poster but like the other guy said, we don't want to create even more competition.

mattsbeachhouse

Dude, how is this creating more competition? You do realize this segment is a small part of the documentary? But hey, dont answer me. I can only go with the information I have collected and if it ends up painting you in a bad light, then who's fault is that? Furthermore, nothing I say, do, film, etc... is going to have any bearing on your competition one way or another. Thank you for assuming I have that kind of pull with the viewing public though.

klaze

This dude is a dumbass...

Forget about competition their's just no reason to tell this guy why or how you do what you do..

The dumbass thinks research is just asking questions..

In an earlier thread you said you had friends in the industry who shoot content... Why don't you ask them these very simple newb questions?

and why are you calling yourself a webmaster? I thought you make films that expose the truth?

Deej

If a bad light is painted... its from the painter...

I'm simply saying people won't be ready to tell you much. This was gone over recently about mainstream media exposing affiliate work and how one starts.

It all falls under my previous post here...

I'm not saying that anyone here has stuff to hide... not unlike any other industry... But people won't be quick on exposing our industry to the general public...

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mattsbeachhouse

Klaze, you can read right? I am not a webmaster, I am a film maker. I stated so in my other thread.

I do have friends who shoot content. Read again slowly so you understand this....they SHOOT content...NOT market or put it on a page. SHOOT. Do you need a definition?

And a little lesson for you on journalism my dimwitted friend, research starts by asking questions. Depending on the answers, a journalist then knows where to focus their efforts in order to get the story instead of wasting time chatting it up with morons (Klaze) while there is a bigger and better story to be covered somewhere else. Understand that keyboard cowboy?

mattsbeachhouse

Deej, I certainly understand where you are coming from. While I would probably be as guarded as they are regarding my industry if they were similar, the industry is already begin exposed in a negative way. Thats not to say that there isnt a positive side to the adult industry but right now the public is unaware and not very sympathetic because they have not seen the positive side. Most public's view is the attitude that Klaze shares. I am trying to change that image.

CurrentlySober

You are a fucking joke. Reading your blog your a filmamaker that needs to have a camera donated. You talk about 'bring out the truth'... The latest post on your blog clearly reads what your really thinking:

And thats what you think isnt it? So now its up to us to tell you different or disprove your thoughts you allready have on us...

Just fuck off

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Deej

Well... the ones that "hate" porn... theres mostly no convincing them of anything positive..

Im talking about the bible belt people and the repubs coming down on porn that fill the general public with thoughts of CP. Do a little number on 2257 and how it has nothing to do with the children, but government control. If anything they are endangering the lives of models by making it near impossible to not make their true identities public.

You will hurdle a massive feat if you convince any of them of anything positive. This industry knows that no one fights CP more than us.

If you want to shed a positive light, dont focus on affiliate work or production, but the daily duties we perform to keep our industry clean. Go back on the negative light and challenge them. people will help you in that department. but not how we make money.


Something like that...

Im famished - time for chinese food

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mattsbeachhouse

Hey, fatman, where does it say I need a donation? I said we would accept a tape less work flow camera is all. Trust me when I say we are ok equipment wise. Tape less cams would have made dailies easier to cut and share.

Right now, I have no pre-conceived thoughts...but asses like you and Klaze are sure making it easier to come up with them. Those same questions are the same questions that news reports tend to focus on and areas I want to help disprove.

I guess the consolation here is that guys like you and Klaze only represent the small portions of the assholes in your industry. Thanks for bringing it out.

mattsbeachhouse

Deej, trust me, 2257 will be covered extensively and the fact that the industry probably fights child porn than the federal government will be made known. I actually already have a segment I am working on talking about "good of the children" and how any time someone wants a law or control of someone else, they always play the child card.

I am covering all of the story, not just bits and part. I want to provide a fair, unbiased representation and that means I cannot leave out parts that deal with money, after all, I am positive that is why many became involved with adult to begin with.

Deej

well of course, other than photographers that truly enjoy the beauty of lights and curves...

we're all here for the money... some get a kick out of working with naked ladies im sure... but i doubt they stay because of it.

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mattsbeachhouse

Deej, allow me to thank you for actually understand my goals with this project instead of flying off the handle. I assure you I have the purest intentions and will not let your industry down.

DatingGameExpert

1. I don't think you have any pull, I don't even know you or your intentions to publicize your so called documentary.

2. Nobody said anything about being painted in a bad light. All I said and a few others is that little fucks like you have nothing better to do than expose an already highly competitive industry to retards.

DatingGameExpert

You are a douchebag, I'm exposing you.

mattsbeachhouse

And apparently morons like yourself have nothing more than to do than make up fake chats? So please produce the IP please.

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DatingGameExpert

Produce the ip on aim? Are you on crack? You are a coward.

mattsbeachhouse

Funny thing is I JUST signed up for an AIM account, and funny thing is MattsBeachhouse was available. So I took the opportunity to discredit you and made a nice little screen cap. Please notice the time in the bottom right corner as this name was created after you decided to make a thread "to expose me". Would you like me to post them to further discredit you moron?

DatingGameExpert

Yeah I own Photoshop too. Stop harassing people.

CurrentlySober

I might be fat, but you are full of shit....

Cool thing is though... I CAN GO ON A DIET !!!

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mattsbeachhouse

definitely not photopshopped. But hey, we both know the truth.

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DatingGameExpert

Yeah call me when you get 5 views on youtube with your "documentary" I'm sure I can help you get a few more hits.

mattsbeachhouse

Dude, face it, your little scam did not work. Surely a smarter man would have at least secured the AIM name and then posted a screen shot if they wanted validity. Credibility doesnt seem to be your strong suit.

DatingGameExpert

Well Photoshop seems to be yours so I guess for you. You know what you did you slimey fuck.

mattsbeachhouse

Maybe you will end up in the docu. What programs do you run again?

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There is an interesting story in there....it will cost about 20,000.00 to get it.

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DatingGameExpert

You need to end your bogus career in film making if you think that you aiming me and then denying it is going to make for a good story. Nobody cares about you or your stupid blog, nobody cares about your idiotic cowardly attempts to deny something you did. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Nobody cares. Get the point?

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And why in the other thread are you asking about how to be an affiliate and make money off traffic? I had to be nice enough to tell you to make money off the traffic your "documentary" would generate..

But you rather go the same direction as the rest of us..

Why?

So then why are you asking easy to answer technical questions and asking people you don't know for equipment?

Your friends shoot in adult they gotta know the people who are buying and marketing the stuff..

You are going about this ALL wrong!! You are on GFY asking about the adult industry.. You're fucked!

You better be privately contacting the high post count people and talking to them one on one..

Your questions are soo basic. It shows you have no fucking clue other than you woke up one morning and said I want to make a documentary about the porn industry..

You better network your ass off at the next conventions/parties and make friends with the popular people fast.

mattsbeachhouse

Listen cock chugger, people who lie and pull stunts like you don't always seem to conduct themselves well. If you are willing to go to such great lengths by faking a chat, then what does that say about your character? Maybe you fake other things. Maybe you don't want the true story to come out. It will. And trust me, this segment is only small part of your industry. But I will say this, at least you provide enough negativity to keep the docu appearing unbiased. Woot Woot bitch!

mattsbeachhouse

Klaze, I dabble in the web, but not in adult. The questions I am asking are simply for back stories. There is a lot of misconceptions out there such as any Joe could pick up a MiniDV cam for $200 and make porn. By asking these types questions, I am merely collecting information to discredit a lot of wrong information being reported.

Heres what I don't get. Dateline or 20/20 runs a report on your industry, paints you all to be the child porn money hungry abusive mother fuckers and you all get upset and angry. But when someone who wishes to be honest and present the other side of the story and focus on the positive side, you get all upset again and do everything you can to cause problems. One would think that ANY positive coverage would be welcomed since the majority if not all coverage has been negative.

DatingGameExpert

You have to be one of the worst so called film makers out there. You show us nothing in the way of previous work, talk about how you know people in the industry and then you come here asking senile noob type questions.

Cool! I get my own segment! Listen bro, I'm sorry I exposed you, can you make sure that when you sell the dvd (I assume you'll be making dvd's of the doc) that you credit my name on the front, since I'm going to be featured in the doc I'd like to at least be on the front or maybe the back if not the front. I can't wait, I'm sure that the 4 family members that will watch it will love hearing about how you got into an argument on a forum, that makes for some terrific documentary material right there.

In fact, why not pitch it to Miramax, I'm sure they will be able to sell a ton of those based on the forum drama here today.

tony286

Matt, you seem like an ambitious guy.Which is very cool .Wouldn't it have been better to approach the board not with a manifesto saying all things you think we are doing wrong. But instead come introduce yourself and give some of your credits.
Just to say its going to be positive when the porn manifesto wasn't positive at all or are some of your blog posts. It reads like you have a very clear agenda and it doesn't read positive. Especially when you keep arguing on this board and threatening people. It doesn't build trust. Also as stupid as you might hear GFY is or they call it the jungle. Most of the whose who glance thru it. So if you want to reach those people. I think it would be better to present yourself in a more professional and positive light. Just my 50 cents.

klaze

Back stories? you are asking how stuff is done. Questions that when you ask them make you look a certain way.

Sorry but any Joe COULD pick up a MiniDV cam and make porn.

Porn is not about what you seem to be concerned with which is special cameras and lighting tricks.

Hey man I would love to see a documentary about the Online Adult Industry.. Dunno wtf you'd talk about for 52 minutes tho

You are just the wrong person to be telling the story.

I'm suspicious of you sounds like you are playing dumb.. I'd say yer a troll nick of another member here who is just fishing for information..

tony286

Actually I think it was 2 weeks 20/20 had a sex episode and John Stossel was very fair with us. I was impressed.Also I would recommend to watch the episode of the show on the secret lives of women did a very positive show on Savanna Samson.

Deej

oh so true...

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mattsbeachhouse

All points well taken. Perhaps my manifesto was a bit overboard but it was the truth. The only agenda I have is for the truth. Now it very well may turn out that everything network news has said is true. If so, thats what I will present. But I tend to think that it is the furthest thing from the true. I am not here to sensationalize anything.

I am all for being cool with people, even those I disagree with until they begin posting fake chats to try and discredit an honest attempt to do something positive.

mattsbeachhouse

I am asking the questions that viewers will want to know. Does it make sense for me to go in great length about TGPs when the viewer will not even know what it stands for. Theres so many ways for this documentary to go and so much information to cover. While it is still in the infancy stage, I am trying gauge what is the better route and what topics provide the more interesting story to cover.

But its funny that there are some expecting me to divulge all this information about myself, my work, and my credit meanwhile, they too hide behind persona. The difference between most, is that my involvement with this documentary will most likely end my career in the mainstream market. I am not so sure I am wishing to give that up just yet. However, artistically, I feel compelled to cover this story on the adult world. But just like many involved in adult, they choose to keep their real names and associations private for the same fear of criticism and discrimination that society places on all involved in it.

The reality is that unless I come out with a documentary that totally denounces porn and paints you in poor negative, abusive nature, my mainstream options will decrease. How many people in this industry right now, that are open about what they do and if they quit your industry today, could get a real job that required something completely different than what they do now ( I am not talking about webmasters.) How many porn directors have honestly transitioned to mainstream, major budget films? ZERO. I still have that aspiration but my desire for the truth is far greater at this time.

DatingGameExpert

Yeah but the thing here is: we haven't been posting fake chats. You imed me, I'm simply showing people what a lying coward clown you are.

Tom_PM

"the truth"?
What truth?
Who's truth?

Documentary on WHAT?

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