Huh?....CCbill is putting through all kinds of garbage that ends up a chargeback...I see chargebacks and the info says "No match address or postal code"....

My apologies - was in the studio all afternoon and didn't realize this thread had spun the way it did.

To clarify - I'm referring to dropping a few programs we're affiliates of under CCBill. My earlier terminology wasn't concise.

I got what you meant. I still find the responses funny though.

PS. I have not seen the number of declines via ccbill go up (via email notices). So I am not thinking they are scrubbing more.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

one thing thats tricky when comparing ratios are you looking at apples to aples or aples to oranges. ccbill stats give you a number of all clicks. other sponsors filter so you see lower ratios.

Hey SilentKnight I will give ya my professional advice on the matter.

Only reason I would see it as being necessary is only if you provide support to CCBILL affilaites in ad design, Ad Campaign assistance and so forth. If you spend alot of time with CCBILL affiliates that are not productive you just may well be spending money on resources you may not need.

However CCBILL is a processor and I would say to anyone the more way you can transact the better off you will be today and into the future.

The CCBILL affiliates are not productive leave em be. You can remove inactive accounts perhaps or even find those inactive and send them an email remind them of your program. Mayber some signed up forgot got involved with another sponsor and will change over or promote you with just a simple reminder. Basically I do not see the reasoning in purging the CCBILL affiliates unless of course they are costing you more than they make.

Well, between Jan 1st and current - we've sent 12,081 hits and 5 signups to various ccbill sites. Works out to 1:2415 ratio.

We're comparing that to an average of 8-10 signups per month (not including recurring, of course) with most other affiliate sponsors with a comparable hit amount.

So at this point, we're somewhat at a loss to explain the vast differences between the stats.

Alien that is not what he meant.

(nodding)

Makes sense - perhaps we'll shuffle the banners somewhat...or possibly custom design a few a see if that shakes things up a little. But its primarily the ratios that have me a bit baffled at the moment, too.

Maybe bc. they don't cascade?

Your getting confusing again. If it is affiliate programs you are promoting then most of what he said does not apply. It would only apply if you wanted to drop people from promoting your own program.


PS 51 confused responses, posts, and everything else.

Its been a confusing weekend, lol.

I re-read what AlienQ wrote and realized I'd even mistaken what he was saying, heh. Too late to edit my reply to it.

Must be the prescription meds I'm taking for this flu :1orglaugh

Its amazing how some people don't know the difference between "sponsors" and "affiliates". My pet peeve is people calling "sponsors" "affiliates"... It is really bugs the shit out of me

Programs are not affiliates. YOU are the affiliate. Programs are called "sponsors" or "affiliate programs" but you YOURSELF are the affiliate. I feel very itchy and irritated and annoyed when people call sponsors "Affiliates". It makes me want to kick or break something.

Hehe, especially when they themselves have an affiliate program....:1orglaugh

Sticky precision strikes again,

more weasel.

Oooooooooooooooooh

I took a look at your site cause I promote that niche but after seeing all the traffic leaks to kink.com on your tour I'll be happy not to be an affiliate :)

If you are thinking of adding new "sponsors" Give us a shot, www.rhinopays.com/ccbill

Is this your Indian from the outsource company typing?

Oh thank god, read and learn everyone.

Silentknight, are you new to this whole webmaster thing? It sure looks like it.

Have you tried calculating form fills - (sales + declines)?

We should hang out!

find another forum to scam people on Jason.

Candyflip is a known scammer

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=765109

I'm sorry you have nothing better to do these days. Like I've said before, after 6 years you are the only one who cares. I've hung here for years and am not going anywhere.

Cheers.

Do you have replacements for them you are sure will bring in more? If XXX program is not bringing in as much as it was, it could be a sign of the times. Test other programs to see if the ratio's go up, it certainly wouldn't hurt.

That's likely what we'll do.

See how it goes.