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HorseShit 12-11-2008 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicky (Post 15180902)
Is this affecting their affiliate payouts?

I'm getting paid better than ever from them :thumbsup

Tempest 12-11-2008 08:09 PM

Course this other thread is even more humorous now...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=874062

BlackCrayon 12-11-2008 08:43 PM

seems most programs are turning into criminal organizations these days. sad.

VIPimp 12-11-2008 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by jdavis (Post 15180995)
I'm getting paid better than ever from them :thumbsup

Will those sales continue rolling in though? Once everyone is afraid to join a porn site and would rather go over to a tube site instead to avoid the risk of going thru all the crap.
Go join the site you're promoting, then after the experience ask yourself if you would ever want to go thru it again.

volante 12-11-2008 09:15 PM

How long before this thread is deleted and Incredible Dollars start running a "Win $$$ in this thread!" thread?

baddog 12-11-2008 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Retox Josh (Post 15180625)
Jesus, good luck man, heres my post causing me to get a subscription on this thread so I can keep an eye on it.

I am here for your sig.

Shaze 12-11-2008 09:20 PM

uhh ohh.....and it continues...

shermo 12-11-2008 09:22 PM

We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.

spacedog 12-11-2008 09:24 PM

Must be alot of pissed off members.

SmokeyTheBear 12-11-2008 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15180558)
Not all that great. I also found a hole to get into the full memberships area with a trial password. The full area sucks ass. Not a whole lot of content.

hmm i hate to ask this but , are you sure this wasn't one of those cases where you are automatically converted to a full membership if you acess the full members area. meaning you would be billed the monthly rate as soon as you access the full members area and you just cancelled right after you became a full member.

Not that it would totally excuse them , if an experienced webmaster who is already "on guard" for any fishy extra billing gets tricked into a charge he thought he had carefully avoided , something is wrong.

RP Fade 12-11-2008 11:13 PM

more and more are popping up every day it seems..

V_RocKs 12-12-2008 12:07 AM

I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

JD 12-12-2008 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15181951)
I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

i think most of the guys doing this are overseas

JamesK 12-12-2008 01:19 AM

No wonder their chargeback rate is so high.

V_RocKs 12-12-2008 01:46 AM

Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?

Matyko 12-12-2008 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 15181235)
We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.

:2 cents: Couldn't agree more. :2 cents:

nickutis 12-12-2008 02:29 AM

I$ support used to sit in this forum for days with those "spam and win threads".. I wonder why there is no response to this one?

Paul Markham 12-12-2008 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by VIPimp (Post 15180837)
Whatever you do, dont chargeback... that will result in ALL your info being placed into a fraud database, which is used by ALL internet companies. Once you're on there you wont be able to use ANY of your cards on the entire internet ever! and not just porn sites!
LOLOLOL

I think Visa might have something to say about this.

The main stream Internet sales are growing, built mostly on good business practices, so if peoples cards were black listed for a legit charge back they would be very angry. All you need to do is send Visa the links.

VIPimp 12-12-2008 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham (Post 15182683)
I think Visa might have something to say about this.

The main stream Internet sales are growing, built mostly on good business practices, so if peoples cards were black listed for a legit charge back they would be very angry. All you need to do is send Visa the links.

Its not possible for these guys to blacklist a person from using a card on the net lol... thats just their scare tactic.

I was laughing at that text on their (and others) support site.

Paul Markham 12-12-2008 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by sherm (Post 15181235)
We need some serious self regulation....From the sponsors, to the affiliates, to the billing companies. We are all responsible for policing our industry, or the government will.

Do you seriously think that would happen?

This industry willnever self regulate and has to be forced to regulate. I started a thread asking about regulation and most of the posters there want to see less if not NO regulation.

No worries the members will regulate us, they will no longer spend money. :Oh crap

Quote:

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15181951)
I used my card so that I can take all of the info to my district attorney and have their billing revoked when the billing companies don't want to have anything to do with an investigation.

More people need to do this and throw a few people into prison. Then some might go for self regulation. :winkwink:

Paul Markham 12-12-2008 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15182532)
Well, Mitch, why is NetBilling docking my credit card for a membership I canceled? And why are you guys billing for a company CCBILL and Epoch won't touch?

Maybe sending the information to Visa will help.

Could be that if Visa find out they might look at how some companies operate and take action. Then everyone will be screaming about another processor going down and people losing money because of it.

XX_RydeR 12-12-2008 03:28 AM

Is this shit going to end?

How long are people going to continue promoting affiliate programs that operate like this?

Tempest 12-12-2008 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by XX_RydeR (Post 15182754)
How long are people going to continue promoting affiliate programs that operate like this?

Until the cheques stop arriving...

DamageX 12-12-2008 03:37 AM

May your credit card RIP. It will be greatly missed. :(

seeandsee 12-12-2008 04:25 AM

check my sig :)

bobby666 12-12-2008 05:29 AM

simply incredible

nico-t 12-12-2008 05:34 AM

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Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 15180835)
damn, would somebody please buy a round of drinks and get this sorted out...

:1orglaugh



this is fucked up though i just joined em

Fabien 12-12-2008 06:19 AM

God damn it !
I'm getting 50$/crack with 'hem arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


Wtf's happening ? Are all sponsors turning into the darkforce or what ?
FUCK THAT SHIT !
Now i'm sending my surfers to scammers ! Which ain't really good biz for me. Yeah sure i makea a buck or 2 with it but in the long run...

Now get your FUCKING ACT TOGHETER WILL YA ?

12clicks 12-12-2008 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 15180675)
I think it's pretty clear what is going on with the majority of the big programs.

Why it's even still debated makes me wonder.

dear clueless. look up the word "majority"

Qbert 12-12-2008 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 15183100)
dear clueless. look up the word "majority"

Damn, I find myself agreeing with 12clicks. Quick, someone check if Hell has frozen over.

From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

Fletch XXX 12-12-2008 06:41 AM

for the record, Incredible is the company that claimed a "rogue affiliate" was carding and used my number to join on their sites (with me never visiting a single site or joining one) and we brought it to the attention of Incredible (on icq were told refund would be put through)

I am sorry i reported on GFY all was good, there was no refund ever made and I am still totally clueless and amazed a company can just withdraw funds from my account for multiple trials and memberships to sites in their network, while i never even surfed any of them, let alone pull my card out and join.

this is fraud and its amazing to see everyone coming out about this, a good while after many of us have made threads on GFY about these weird fraud charges.

this is blatant fraud and i had to report my card stolen and stop all charges going through because some "rogue affiliate" was putting through fraudulent memberships with my credit card number?

I wouldnt post about this had we not been told by a person the refund was going out,... it never has...

12clicks 12-12-2008 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 15183132)
Damn, I find myself agreeing with 12clicks. Quick, someone check if Hell has frozen over.

From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

hmmmm, how is being surprised you agree with one of the most successful online operators this industry has ever seen a good thing for you? :1orglaugh

Bryan G 12-12-2008 08:35 AM

Interesting

V_RocKs 12-12-2008 02:15 PM

I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem. There are plenty of very large programs that don't use these tactics.

Thus far it seems Incredible Dollars doesn't even have actual customer service reps...

VIPimp 12-12-2008 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Qbert (Post 15183132)
From what I've seen it's a relatively small number of programs that are responsible for the vast majority of the shady cross sale and credit card scams. The sheer magnitude is what is so shocking.

I wouldnt say its a small number of programs, maybe you are unaware of many of them.
edit: or maybe better way to say it is a small number of people are responsible.

DamageX 12-12-2008 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15185568)
I find it alarming how many people are generalizing this type of behavior as an industry wide problem. This is not an industry wide problem.

Or at least, if it is, you're not aware of it yet. I'd advise you to try your card with a few of your favourite cross-selling programs and see if it makes it out alive. Or better yet, get a new card and try it here and there, just so you can easily tie it to the culprits.

V_RocKs 12-12-2008 02:23 PM

http://www.2teens.net/gfy/incredible_cancel.jpg

Looks like I canceled... So I went back and canceled 3 more times just to be sure... Seems their cancellation form does nothing more than pretend to cancel you.

VIPimp 12-12-2008 02:24 PM

Is that kara's ad a instant 1click join with no confirm?

mynameisjim 12-12-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 12clicks (Post 15183100)
dear clueless. look up the word "majority"

Were you offended because I didn't consider you a "big program"?

Anyway, being called clueless on GFY is almost a compliment. The less I have in common with people here the better :winkwink:

SiMpLe 12-12-2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 15185634)
http://www.2teens.net/gfy/incredible_cancel.jpg

Looks like I canceled... So I went back and canceled 3 more times just to be sure... Seems their cancellation form does nothing more than pretend to cancel you.


On the "Special" Does that 5 sec redirect bill you :upsidedow


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