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Old 12-11-2008, 05:35 PM   #1
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Incredible Dollars you have some explaining to do!

So a bunch of webmasters were telling me the horror stories of Incredible Dollars and their billing practices.

I decided to investigate and signed up for Sweet Yurizan. Upon signing up I waiting a few hours and made VERY SURE to read EVERYTHING. I unchecked the prechecked cross sales and none of them have shown up yet... However!

I did CANCEL after that few hours and I even unchecked the prechecked cross sales on the CANCELLATION FORM!

Today I just got billed for the full monthly charge even after canceling online and being given notification of my cancellation.

So, Incredible Dollars. The ball is in your court now.

And to make things EVEN JUICIER... I won't tell you who I am... You can find out easy enough just whois'ing my domains.

The real test is whether or not you bill me for the things I unchecked. Which was another practice other webmasters caught you doing to their cards.

For some reason they don't have the balls to do this in public. I don't mind airing the laundry.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:36 PM   #2
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:37 PM   #3
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uhm - yes they have said this in public ... but good luck n all
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Wasn't Incredible Dollars bought out by someone recently?
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:38 PM   #5
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such practice pushes surfers to spend few hours on reading statements or refuse from buying porn. it sucks (
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:40 PM   #6
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:41 PM   #7
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mostly already stopped sending them traffic
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:41 PM   #8
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ok, but how was the sweet yurizan site?
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:42 PM   #9
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uhm - yes they have said this in public ... but good luck n all
Umm... No.. They haven't.

They said... Hey, read here about someone else... They never had proof.

I have a bank statement with their charges on it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:43 PM   #10
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I've been hearing a lot about I$ and their billing practices lately... not a single thing of what I heard has been good.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:43 PM   #11
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ok, but how was the sweet yurizan site?
Not all that great. I also found a hole to get into the full memberships area with a trial password. The full area sucks ass. Not a whole lot of content.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:48 PM   #12
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Me to....
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:53 PM   #13
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I think theboss is still out of the USA
yeah he is "some place" without any internet


sure sure....there are little villages in africa with internet at their disposal

nice one!
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:56 PM   #14
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:58 PM   #15
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Jesus, good luck man, heres my post causing me to get a subscription on this thread so I can keep an eye on it.
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:58 PM   #16
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Old 12-11-2008, 05:59 PM   #17
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:00 PM   #18
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Umm... No.. They haven't.

They said... Hey, read here about someone else... They never had proof.

I have a bank statement with their charges on it.
dude , people have said so many things about I$...

perhaps not the exact scenario that you have experienced - in fact as I remember much worse.

All im saying is youre not getting your name written down in history as the person that outed I$...

This is just another of many...

Also - do you REALLY expect a response?

By all means dont NOT post about it though... It should be... But its nothing new...
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:01 PM   #19
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this thread will probably never ever have a response from I$

very sad
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:03 PM   #20
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I am so fucking glad this thread wasnt fake drama BS!
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:03 PM   #21
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Shit, just opened blog for Yurizan
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:05 PM   #22
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Didnt 2-3 review sites ban them last week, just because of something like this?
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:05 PM   #23
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:10 PM   #24
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I think it's pretty clear what is going on with the majority of the big programs.

Why it's even still debated makes me wonder.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:33 PM   #25
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Cant believe you used your own cc to join their site!!! lol

There are many other programs operating in similiar ways as well.
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:35 PM   #26
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Cant believe you used your own cc to join their site!!! lol

There are many other programs operating in similiar ways as well.
Yeah should have done it with a pre-paid with a small amount of cash on it to see what bills he got. Well if you can use pre-paid cards to buy porn, I really dont know!
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:39 PM   #27
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damn that sucks
How much was the surprise for?
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ohh wow this is pretty fucked up
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damn, would somebody please buy a round of drinks and get this sorted out...
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Old 12-11-2008, 06:51 PM   #31
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Whatever you do, dont chargeback... that will result in ALL your info being placed into a fraud database, which is used by ALL internet companies. Once you're on there you wont be able to use ANY of your cards on the entire internet ever! and not just porn sites!
LOLOLOL
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Aren't they a sponsor on this forum? or not anymore?
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All this reminds me of the good old times, when XPics was using similar tactics (no xsales, but they kept billing months after cancellation)...the reason why Amex completely stopped billing adult.

Let's see how long all this xsale shit can go on, time to build more mainstream business...if Visa pulls the plug, some people won't have many friends any more. No more bros, the party will be over if it continues like this.
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Yeah, it's the cross sales on the cancel page that I love most.
Nothing like saying "by not giving us money any longer, you agree to give us money"
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Is this affecting their affiliate payouts?
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I can't wait to hear about the charges that show up on your card in about a month or so...

Foolish boy.. There's been plenty of posts about this now and at least you should have known to use a gift card.
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sure!
lol... I was just reading their support page... which it seems there are many programs using the exact same page, including one that just launched.
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Is this affecting their affiliate payouts?
I'm getting paid better than ever from them
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Course this other thread is even more humorous now...

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=874062
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seems most programs are turning into criminal organizations these days. sad.
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Will those sales continue rolling in though? Once everyone is afraid to join a porn site and would rather go over to a tube site instead to avoid the risk of going thru all the crap.
Go join the site you're promoting, then after the experience ask yourself if you would ever want to go thru it again.
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How long before this thread is deleted and Incredible Dollars start running a "Win $$$ in this thread!" thread?
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uhh ohh.....and it continues...
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:22 PM   #48
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Not all that great. I also found a hole to get into the full memberships area with a trial password. The full area sucks ass. Not a whole lot of content.
hmm i hate to ask this but , are you sure this wasn't one of those cases where you are automatically converted to a full membership if you acess the full members area. meaning you would be billed the monthly rate as soon as you access the full members area and you just cancelled right after you became a full member.

Not that it would totally excuse them , if an experienced webmaster who is already "on guard" for any fishy extra billing gets tricked into a charge he thought he had carefully avoided , something is wrong.
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