Just sent Netbilling the info. Awaiting their answer on what steps they will take to make the cancellation form at Incredible Dollars actually work.


* No, it sends you to an ad page.

Make BIG $$$! Promote IncredibleDollars NOW!!! Don't miss out on this great chance!!

:pimp:pimp:pimp:pimp

welcome home from whatever your real job is.

now you have all night to pretend you have a clue! :thumbsup

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ancient diss, get with the times

I hope you didn't use a real credit card. I'd also say to keep an eye on your card for awhile. When I signed up through them, I got hit by someone almost 2 weeks later.

I trust them like I trust a fart.
He's been a ripoff artist wayyyy before this.. It's his M.O. You can't reform someone who's been banging cards their entire adult life.

Duke

Now THAT is something!

DUKE stepping up, nice one!

Thanks for taking your time to do this investigation V_Rocks. You rocks man!!
Hope someone will send this to the FTC and FBI.


I took all I$ FHG off my biggest site, will take it off all my sites by Monday.

Who are you talking about? Glenn?

They don't give a shit, thats basically what they said them selfs. They are not here to police the interweb.

The great thing is you can host your own joinpage with NB if you have a merchant (some others do this too though). Imagine the things you can do with that :thumbsup

That's not true, I got one of my CC's Data stolen a few years ago, and charged back 1500 from over 21 different billings. Got a new card and never had any problem with using them since then.

Interesting Fact is that I've used the Card only for Google, Yahoo and Sex.com, I wonder which one of these forwarded my data to some thieves :disgust

Yes I know its not true... I found it funny that many sites are using that on their support pages... of course that is not possible to do, they just putting a scare in the customer who most likely will never join another porn site again.

Almost 1,900 views of this thread and not a peep from Incredible dollars?

YES
Duke

Are you kidding? What would you seriously expect to get from them? a Yes you are correct man we scam CC's?

This is bad

They are committing credit card fraud. Not sure what they have to say. Just watch that card in a couple weeks. Hope it was a prepaid, I had to cancel mine.

Or Net Billing, but Mitch is probabally to busy shopping for another new car on this money.....:1orglaugh

Another fake $50 coming up.

101 canceled memberships...

bump for I$

sig post

I'm always in for a fake 50.

Another bump to get I$ to response.

bump for answers

Drinks would seem to be in order. Luck to all, and a nice bump from me.

Wow thats not good

What is Glenn's history? Where was he banging cards before incredible$?

VRocks I truly apologize for the problem but we truly have a had a honest problem.

I just freaked out after someone sent me this thread but just
spoke with the person in charge of our nats and cross sales his name is Jim.

We did a full nats upgrade of our system this week
and our fully disclosed
cancellation script was affected and broken due to the upgrade. We have the full logs of everyone who attempted to cancel, and they will be canceled and refunded any fees that they have been billed since that date. The problem was fixed yesterday, and was an upgrade error which was caused by the
NATS as an upgrade and nothing else.. We also had many other problems this week due to the upgrade but Nats has finally completed everything as of Friday.

Please email Jim at incredibledollars dot com me and he will take care of you personally...

As per recent complaints and threads we do offer
legally disclosed cross-sales, but we also provide revshare links where the cross-sales are unchecked so all of our affiliates have options including CCBill with no rev share links.

None of the accusations made on the boads have had any validity, and the people posting them refuse to communicate with us directly. Many are fake nicks and competitors that our obviously fucking with us.

No full or complete
details of these transactions have been provided, meaning we can't even look them up or verify any information whatsoever. In closing, the bottom line is we are one of the fastest growing programs on the net with both organic joins and we do do a lot of cross sale joins as well and due to the high volume of sales and countless affiliate programs that add our incrediblepass cross sales to their join pages, a certain percentage of complaints are inevitable. Lets face it, when people are high, drunk or jerking off, and sign up for another website, it is inevitable that people a small percentage of people will complain when they get their bill 30 - 45 days later and see IncrediblePass on their credit card statement, when they initially ordered another website, hence, many will then make innacurate accusations.

Most of the threads started on message boards are becoming hate groups real quick no matter how any person or company replies and we feel as if we reply to threads, it will just add fake nicks and jealous or non serious webmasters to make more innacurate accusations..

I$ spends hundreds of thousands of dollars on updating excluisve content, everyday,
unlike most other programs on the net that offer cross sales or not but rest assure we are in this for the long run...

I again can only apologize for the problem and get you a refund asap.

In closing, although I really do not understand cross sales that well, anyone doing any
tests that ever have a problem, please do not hesitate to email me directly and privately (not on boards) as we will terminate any entity involved with doing any of these cross sales not disclosed properly or done in any way that is wrong immediately. I am sick of the shit and will not put up with anybullshit. Again email me directly.

Remember if you do not like cross sales use are cc bill or rev share links and contact Jim to set yourself up. We have offered unchecked cross sales for 3 months now.

Truly Yours,

Glenn

Finally a reply.
I have to say i have no problems with IS and got roughly one or two chargebacks over the year but i also never signed up with them with my own card so dunno...

but if this really was a NATS issue there has to be an independent guy who can confirm this. Someone from the NATS crew should be able to approve that this COULD be a possible upgrade failure or not.That would be sufficient to explain this shit going on.

anybody need processing?? Hit me up

Email sent.

I did not recive any email , you need processing Mr Rocks?

Anyone dare try it again with their cc to see if the problem fix? I dare not.

:1orglaugh

snaker was here

shit like this gives paysites a bad name. with a market like this, you would think programs are doing everything in their power to retain consumers

waiting for someone to try this :)

Under the terms of the settlement, Glen Buzzetti of North Bergen and Joseph Ferguson of Rockland County must pay $1 million over 10 years to resolve alleged violations of the New Jersey Consumer Fraud Act and $350,000 in consumer redress to resolve allegations brought by the Federal Trade Commission.
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m...5/ai_n22399115

National Credit Management Group of Fort Lee and Edgewater, New Jersey, and its principals, Glen Buzzetti and Joseph Ferguson, have agreed to settle Federal Trade Commission charges brought against them as part of "Operation Eraser," a federal-state crackdown on fraudulent credit repair firms. The FTC charged the defendants with violating the FTC Act and the Credit Repair Organizations Act (CROA) by making deceptive claims about their ability to improve consumers' credit records and get them credit cards and by charging advance fees for these services. The FTC also charged the defendants with violating the Telemarketing Sales Rule by making unauthorized bank account debits, obtaining advance fees for "guaranteed" credit cards, and failing to disclose the true costs of their services. The proposed settlement of the charges would permanently ban Buzzetti and Ferguson from most credit-related business in the future, would ban them from check debiting, and would require that they pay $350,000 in redress. A court-appointed receiver shut down National Credit Management Group's (NCMG) business in April.

"Operation Eraser," announced this past March, targeted 31 companies that promised that they could restore consumers' creditworthiness for a fee. Sometimes charging over $1,000, these firms purported to guarantee consumers that they could remove negative information from their credit reports -- even if the negative information was accurate and timely. But, according to the FTC, these companies cannot remove legitimate negative information and, where there are actual errors in credit reports, consumers have the legal right to have those corrected for free most of the time. "Operation Eraser" was the first combined effort to utilize the CROA, a new federal law specifically targeting credit repair scams. Effective April 1, 1997, the new statute is enforced by the FTC and state Attorneys General. This law also allows consumers to bring lawsuits on their own in federal court and obtain damages, attorneys fees, and punitive damages.

According to the complaint detailing the charges in this case, NCMG was a large company -- doing business as 1-800-YES-CREDIT -- advertising on television and radio, and soliciting consumers to call a toll-free number to receive an unsecured credit card. During the telephone sales pitch, the defendants allegedly offered consumers a "credit analysis," suggesting that they would help consumers improve their credit ratings, in return for an up-front fee of $95. The defendants also obtained the consumers' checking account numbers, the FTC said, and often withdrew additional funds from consumers' accounts without the express authorization required by the Telemarketing Sales Rule. In its complaint, the FTC charged that consumers typically failed to receive either the "guaranteed" credit cards or the improvement to their credit records. The complaint alleges the defendants violated the CROA by obtaining an advance fee for their credit repair services and failed to provide the required written pre-sale disclosures; and alleged that the defendants violated the Telemarketing Sales Rule by making unauthorized bank account debits, obtaining advance fees for "guaranteed" credit cards, and failing to disclose the true costs of their services.

On March 25, 1998, United States District Judge Alfred J. Lechner, Jr., of Newark, New Jersey, issued detailed findings of facts and conclusions of law in which he concluded that the FTC and State of New Jersey were likely to succeed in proving that NCMG, Buzzetti, and Ferguson had violated the law. He granted the request of the FTC and New Jersey for a preliminary injunction, froze the defendants' assets, and appointed a receiver to take over the company.

In addition to permanently banning Buzzetti and Ferguson from both the business of credit repair or advance fee loan services and requiring them to pay $350,000 in consumer redress, the proposed settlement would bar the defendants from obtaining, or submitting for payment, a demand draft, check, or other form of negotiable paper unless it contains the original signature of the consumer.
Further, the proposed settlement would prohibit the defendants from misrepresenting any fact material to a consumer's decision to purchase any product or service. The defendants would be prohibited from making the specific claims as alleged in the complaint, and would be prohibited from misrepresenting that their products or services have been approved or endorsed by any governmental authorities or consumer protection entities, and from misrepresenting the terms or conditions of any refund policy. Finally, the defendants are prohibited from violating any provisions of the CROA or the Telemarketing Sales Rule in the future.

The proposed settlement was filed in the U.S. District Court for the District of New Jersey, Newark Division, on October 22, 1998. The Commission vote to file the proposed settlement was 4-0. When the FTC filed its complaint, the New Jersey Attorney General simultaneously filed a similar action in the same court, and the court consolidated the FTC's and New Jersey's cases. The State of New Jersey is not a party to the settlement announced today.

NOTE: The stipulated final judgment is for settlement purposes only and does not constitute an admission by the defendants of a law violation. The judgment is subject to approval by the court and has the force of law when signed by the judge.

Copies of the settlement, the news release announcing "Operation Eraser," and a number of publications about consumer credit issues are available from the FTC's web site at http://www.ftc.gov and also from the FTC's Consumer Response Center, Room 130, 6th Street and Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W., Washington, D.C. 20580; 202-FTC-HELP (202-382-4357); TDD for the hearing impaired 1-866-653-4261. To find out the latest news as it is announced, call the FTC NewsPhone recording at 202-326-2710.

Media Contact:
Howard Shapiro
Office of Public Affairs
202-326-2161
Staff Contact:
C. Steven Baker
Chicago Regional Office
55 E. Monroe Street, Suite 1860,
Chicago, Illinois 60603-5701
312-960-5634
(Civil Action No. 98-936)
(FTC File No. X98 0047)


http://www.ftc.gov/opa/1998/10/ncmg-2.shtm
http://www.ftc.gov/os/1998/03/ncmg.fnl.htm <---more
it has to stop..
Duke