LOL, ok everybody duck like Bush.

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crazy shit

shut up you transvestite hippy. this is grown folks bidness

Let me try to explain this differently, perhaps that way you'll be able to understand it.

Not telling people about scammers in our industry = silent acceptance of what they do = telling others it's OK to scam people and silently encouraging them to do so.

Would you rather be regulated by the government or fall prey to scammers?

This really isn't about the adult industry and doesn't represent it. It's juts plain credit card fraud and they're using the adult industry as a means to acquire that information. No different than when they used the credit repair industry 10 years ago.

This has nothing to do about x-sales, tube sites, bad members areas, cancel pages, etc. It's just plain old credit card fraud. People need to stop trying to tie this in to the adult industry. These guys could be selling any other service and doing this (and they have).

let me paste the same response i gave to someone else on the other thread for this one


Yes I agree 100% but there a other ways to do this off the boards if you feel you must attack someone. I am not taking sides here or attacking people like I use to. I have learned in this biz that you get more bee's with honey and not shit.

The stuff has already been posted so just let it die. Your not gaining anything by dragging this out. Your just taking a risk that a mainstream press party may make this hurt us all. At this point it just looks like people are trying to attack a person or company and your not hurting them, your going to end up hurting us all.

You don't need to put it in the press for people to read. If you are trying to tell people in the biz then tell them, dont tell everyone else.

There are so many ways other than the boards. I have a email list of 3500 people in this biz and I use it when I need to for things like this. We all have email list but this is just going to hurt us all as a whole

yes but the press will say it was porn sites and hurt us all! :Oh crap

So letting it continue for longer time and having more people get ripped off is the answer? I think it'd be important to nip it in the bud sooner, rather than later.

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duck muthafucka :1orglaugh

That's a joke, right?

are you not reading what i am writing? Do it off the boards! there are 100 other ways to contact people in the biz and not show the public outside of porn! PEOPLE THAT DON'T NEED TO KNOW OUR BUSINESS! FUCK!

Do you really think a credit card fraud operation cares about a few nasty e-mails?

anyone that is thinking about buying porn from a porn site WILL when they see this is the mainstream press after you guys don't drop it and deal with it off the boards.

donny look at the thousands of consumer complaints. this is beyond gfy .....

Donnylong and Robbie, , I just wanted to let you know that you carry a great deal of respect on this board and in the industry so I really try to think and understand things you write but I really disagree with you guys on a lot of things.

I think a public forum is the ideal way to gather attention to issues. We have the internet, why not use it?

Donny, I am curious to know what percentage of your production business revenue comes from programs that do aggressive x-selling. It may be zero. I just think your thoughts would be better understood if we knew how much you relied on these companies for your business. Oh, and by the way, this could be a whole nuther thread all by itself:

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I'm not judging. Just sayin......:-)

Robbie, you posted in some post that we shouldn't report the shady programs because it will bring attention and regulation to our industry. If ...oh....I don't know......if Scotttrade got wind of Bernie Madoff's investment scheme, should they not have called the authorities? Or would that have brought undue attention and regulation on the investment industry?

I own a paysite program that is infinitesimally smaller than I$ or Dee or Muffia or whomever else is out there. So, take that into consideration when I write whatever I write but I feel every time IncredibleDollars or whomever, makes a sale, it takes money out of my pocket. If that sale was simply because they have such incredible content then so be it, fair competition. If, however, that sale pisses off the surfer who will now be very hesitant to ever join my paysite or any other, then they are stealing money from me and I ain't happy about it. I would think you would not be either.

I send incredible dollars quite a bit of traffic.

Should I stop sending them my traffic Right Now?


Thanks

My answer would be yes, but I'm not the right person to give that response. I would like to hear what an existing affiliate of I$ would do.

Silly to ask others how to run your business. Gather the info and make your own informed decision. See if this issue effects you and your customers :2 cents:

Agreed, how it effects you and your customers both short-term and long-term.

Check out Donny Long in here... This cannot be the real one! No fucking way... Anyway... If it is the real one. It is too fucking soon for you to start making sense when you spent the better half of 2008 proving that you are a douche-bag!

the respect thing might be debatable, but he does shoot indeed for I$. :2 cents:

Thats right. Make a blog post or a youtube video calling them cunts and whores.

dude i've hung out with you a decent amount of time, but you are still clueless about a lot of what goes on.

you havent learned jack shit.

Donny knows not what he speaks.

You mean he doesn't know his shit?

:thumbsup

No wonder pacification is his answer. :2 cents:

There are plenty of ways to make them work Robbie.

you of all people should not talk about professionalism. Why were you banned from gfy again?

you didn't learn shit. They just pay your bills and thats why you doing it.

Nah, he shoots for them so he's all gung ho about protecting their rep.

Thanks for bringing this into public.

Going to pull their links right now!

Wow this is fucking crazy.

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fucking shit, goddamn, suck my ...

Keep this thread on page 1 till the end of times, i need to come back this week to read it again. And ehhh DonnyLong, shut the fuck up, you sound so gay... someone has a finger in your ass? Smoked some Happy Weed? Toke a pill and became all woosie and soft, seriously go fuck yourself!!

Is anyone from ID around... I have been trying to get a hold of them but nothing... no answers

Don't they have some kind of live support on their web site?

So who got a call from Dateline NBC? Apparently they're doing a show on rampant credit card fraud in the online adult industry....

yeah, perfect ...

This thread deserves a bump