It seems like you're jealous of those you deem "inferior" to you for being able to make friends and enjoy life online. That you are fixated on "rating" people based on some subjective criteria in your mind. That comes across to me as someone dealing with self-esteem issues and having trouble adjusting to new social dynamics.

And maybe that is why people enjoy the internet and social networks. They don't have to be judged on things like body size, income, and whether they can beat up the guy next to them. They can meet with people of similar interests and be judged for themselves. The can avoid people like you who are more concerned about who is "superior" to one another.

That's why porn took off online. You didn't have to fit into some social standards. If you liked double anal, you could get into it online. You didn't have to deal with someone deeming you "inferior".

It seems that we never talked together apart from board posting.

:)

Yes, there was never a doubt I have trouble adjusting to the new social dynamics, I rather read a good book, drink, sleep, have sex, make money, spend time talking about bullshit with my real life friends or those few people from online I regard as friends, than to read idiot posts (unless I'm in the right mood or drunk or something).

But you're right, I did spend a lot of time on GFY, I could actually also tell you why, indeed I do have a reason - it's profitable for me - that's life, the opportunity cost is inevitable with everything you do.

Yet from 99 pct. they try to exxagerate exactly everything that you just mentioned in the cyberworld, as they can't face the person in person, they AVOID the judgment by trying to be judged as something different than what they are.

What is wrong with being challenged?

Isn't this what keeps us going? Isn't this what keeps us (or should keep us) working on improving ourselves?

What is wrong on being judged?

Isn't that the only way how to gain reputation if you're a well balanced individual with the appropriate social skills in the right collective?

Everyone has a chance to sensibly answer me, I don't want anyone to hide behind this keyboard, I only encourage a REAL discussion.

Yes, and they better should avoid me! Or I'll make them think about the real life!

:winkwink:

What are the social standards?

Who sets them?

Is it not the community you belong to?

Will the new social standards in the global village called internet be the most superficial / fake / influenced by a mass of unverifiable user submitted data that are from 99 pct. without any real informational value?

What does it have to do with porn?

Answer me, talk to me!

:winkwink:

I never said anything about you spending time on here. Nor do you need to give a reason for it. I just thought it was odd that you were so upset about what people who are "inferior" to you were doing online.

People exxagerate in everything. Go to a bar and you'll hear men telling women that they make more money than they do and that they aren't married. Go to a golf course and you'll have guy embelish their shots and lie about how well they played. People will always try to impress others. This is not an internet exclusive thing in society.

Each community will have different social standards and different levels of superficial people. I think for the majority of them, most people are not concerned about it. They don't care. It's just the internet and just something they do for fun. Just like going to a party, we meet people and have to judge on our own what's true or not. If I meet a girl at a bar, it's not easy for me to verify that she isn't married. Same goes for the web.

Many people online and in real life aren't concerned with what people think. When I go to a bar, I don't feel the need to impress everyone and try to build a "reputation". I just be myself and go from there. You seem very concerned about how people view you on the internet, which I don't think is the norm in society. I don't think it's taken as serious as you might.

Do I sound upset?

Is criticism a sign that something is wrong with someone these days, did we reach the times of excellence?

Are people so cultured, balanced, reliable and excellent these days there's no reason for criticism?

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That's a valid point, it's just so you can at least get laid or something if you paint castles on the sky in a bar, so I can see at least REAL motivation to do so, a REAL goal.

REAL is the key word here.

I recommend to check any super popular site and I'm seriously afraid it's NOT that the majority of active posters would "NOT care".

The fact that they CARE is the key reason they return to these sites.

Well in fact, I really am concerned about this, I think it's nothing but a huge time waster.

Not only that time is money, time is the most important capital an individual can exploit, the leaders of men, the best of us knew this better than anyone else.

What I see in web 2.0. is:

- a communication without a real recipient
- a communication without a real purpose

many times even:

- a communication without a real information in it

Do I need to go any further?

You know, my job is very much measured the way I'm able to impress people inside and outside the company.

The more impressive I will be, the better skills I have, the more effective I am, the better the numbers get, the more contracts get signed, the less bullshit I need to solve inside the company, the more control I have about the whole organization - a man is his job.

If I will be the last in the line sitting in the corner, whining, hiding, so no one will get any opinion about me, I'll never get what I want.

I was there in the past, I used to be a shy kid, thank you very much, I'm not interested in this.

As Oscar Wilde said:

"It's better that people hate you for what you are than love you for something you aren't"

Or as I use to say:

"A man who treats everyone as a friend is an idiot"

While I don't completely agree or disagree with you Carlos, I will say that it is good for business, stupidity is the easiest thing to monetize. As more idiots spend their time online, the larger the market grows for us webmasters. I still am amazed by the evolution of web 2.0 advertising avenues. Theres seems to be a new and potent way to reach the idiots every month or so. (I'm speaking as an adult/mianstream webmaster, not as a GTBill employee).

:2 cents:

The access to the consumer preferences is great, the problem is how to effectively target the preferences though.

I would never ever start anything for the "general audience" these days.

There's no value in having more and more people waste your bandwith without you being able to effectively target and monetize their needs.

What I plan to do starting May as a side project will be also extremely specialized, and I know there's none or very few online services like this on the web.

I want only people who really do look for this finding it (needless to mention it will be totally mainstream).

I'm certain I watched a video from Jay XXX a few years back. With some taxi driver, he had the same looks as this guy. I swear.

If you ever seen judge Judy, you know what the social society have been bringing to the table.


There's 1 in 10 on that show that can explain what they mean in 3 sentences. Others on there have to bring up everything, like every little meaningless detail and social play in their life before the event.

The same on Internet boards, you can see it more on mainstream boards, than here.

Someone is posting to knock down in on there money making scheme, but they can't tell it right out, they have to de-value their own information/opinion in some kind of way, before they get to post their opinion.

I wonder if there's some kind of psychological term for this. It's certainly a breeding from the social society we live in. "No one can take too much space, we all have to be part of the herd"

Especially women are bad at getting to the point. It's no wonder there arent many women in the top of enterprises. They are too concerned about being political correct and getting along with everybody.

And on top of that, we have the feminist and the likes, blaming others and society because there arent any women on the tops.

Guess what, they arent there for a reason....they are better suited in healthcare and other fields.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

And also, what's even worse, "pretend to love you" for what you are.

Internet is a great cultural source if you spend more time educating yourself and less chasing "idiots" and fat chicks. Hell, even YouTube is quickly becoming a major cultural source for me - lots of rare and beautiful music there from around the world I woudn't have a chance of hearing otherwise. Coupla fresh findings:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=3iNMuOSRreY
https://youtube.com/watch?v=DNv5ZvzTGJw

I am still a pimp.

:2 cents:

It always reminds me of one of the movies that influenced me the most - the legendary Easy Rider from 1969.

I was a 12 year old kid, that was right after the break, and it was so cool that you could watch Dennis Hopper and Peter Fonda in your local theater.

It was a warm summer evening and my sister was dating a guy from New Jersey at that time, we went to the cinema together.

I remember Jack Nicholson, who was just about staring his acting career and played the crazy guy who joined them and then got killed by a bunch of morons - he said something like:

"if you're free, if you don't live by THEIR silly standards that were set by THEM, they're afraid of you"

I guess he pretty much nailed it

And it makes sense, because people are usually afraid of things that are different or things they don't understand, the whole organized church would never exist if someone would not be able to effectively scare people with something they don't understand.

So many people at the end don't understand a plenty of things and issues, and they get scared, which can as well result in something more animal like.

And I'm always very, very disappointed, when I face this coming from USA.

A country that was always, at least for me personally a country that praises success, skills, originality and attitude.

A country that praises the strength and skills of an individual over the sheep mentality of the crowd.

A country that praises its heroes and successful people as an inspiration for masses.

Unfortunately, and it's something that I can't forgive the modern TV, the web 2.0., something I can't forgive the modern day mass media in general - they made being a mediocre ignorant animal a standard.

And they just show it all the time and they target the animal instincts in you to exploit the rankings and get more advertising dollars, while masses are actually watching it, what's the worst I'm afraid some of them even take it semi seriously.

yay web2.0

Well, there sure are women out there, who can get to the point so well they even turn me on,

And there are women who are strong, well organized and well balanced, so they make good executives, but you can also immediately feel it's in their personal nature, and it's not something they learned at a university or that they read in a book and now try to play.

You can also see they all are enjoying being women, being attractive, taking good care of themselves, having kids (the biggest managerial quest out there) and behave naturally and spontaneously - no pseudo feminist "fight the cock" bullshit.

I know personally a few even in this business and I have a lot of respect to them, as well as I do always enjoy their inspiring company.

But yeah, I also don't pick up the phone to some of the women in my phone book, I just always tell them to drop me a line..

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Did the taxi driver look like this?

http://www.carlosthegaucho.com/gfy/bmw.JPG

in this thread, on this day, in this time
 

so why are we here ?

At this moment? - to discuss web 2.0.

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:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

I'm not clicking that, the screenshot is scary enough!

Here's another observation I made just yesterday.

I went home earlier from the office yesterday, and it happened!

I caught them in flagranti!

All The girls have their face book accounts! And they waste time over "there" all the time!

Stoned loser from England with dread locks they know nothing about and might be just another dangerous maniac from web 2.0. offered them shelter in London!

Welcome to London!

I guess it's time I start picking up Latinas from Colombia to come to blow me, that I'm a big shot and they can oversleep in Prague or Brno at my place!

One of my girls didn't almost even talk to me the whole evening, she was addicted to her laptop!

I told her if she did anything social today - she replied NOT!

This is exactly what I'm talking about, you have people around you and you just ignore them, because you are wasting time doing placebo instead of real life!

Anyway, I'm positive,

I'm sure that my uncompromising, intense, and well educated personality will change their lives soon - I just need to give them some time, before I learn them how to really enjoy real life without fear of logging out of your face book account.

:)

Wise men talk because they have something to say; Fools because they have to say somethning - Plato

:2 cents:

Interesting point LA Mike made in my other thread, less time spent on porn and more time spent in web 2.0. communities!

Another reason why to be against this - it costs us money!

:)