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Joe King 09-13-2009 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 16315551)
In just the last 2 generations look at the death tool governments inflicted on their own populace in Russia, Germany, China, Cambodia .....

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Yes, and lets not forget when the "elites" chopped off the heads of the best and brightest of the Armenians and then marched millions of Armenians into the desert and left them there to die.
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MediaGuy 09-13-2009 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16315544)
I see your point but look at what happened in Russia after the Bolshevik revolution. Something like 40 million died from murder, forced famine, gulags, etc. Something like 8-10 million were murdered in the Ukraine alone. And yes, destroying farms and taking away their food WAS MURDER. These people did not have a 7-11 down the block where they could go buy a cheese hot dog in the middle of the winter when they had no food. The Ukraine was the breadbasket of that part of the world so for them to have a famine was just crazy.

Do you think this was all by accident? No, the leaders of the revolution not only planned to slaughter the Romanovs (including their children and dog) but also the best and brightest of the Russian people.

You think what happened in Russia cannot happen again?

Socially and politically an entirely different situation... I agree about the Bolshevik "revolution" but does it have anything to do with 9/11? Only marginally.

Better to go on about lack of military response, lack of Bin-Laden responsibility, lack of logistical evidence for the so-called "collapses" etc...

:D

spanky part 2 09-13-2009 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 16314901)
it does seem odd...but did you know that the following points are all facts:

1. goerge bushs brother took over control of world trade centers 6 months before it came down

2. first official act was to get rid of all the bomb sniffing dogs

3. closed down major sections of the buildings...and no one was allowed in..not even building maintenance.

weird coincidence eh

And you get your information from where? I can post a bunch of stuff too, but it doesn't make it true.

Give me a link to your insanity.

onwebcam 09-14-2009 12:56 AM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 16316172)
And you get your information from where? I can post a bunch of stuff too, but it doesn't make it true.

Give me a link to your insanity.

Marvin Bush graduated from Woodberry Forest School in 1975, and also holds a B.S. from the University of Virginia, where he was a member of St. Elmo Hall. He spent most summers and holidays at the Bush family estate.

Marvin Bush was on the board of directors of Securacom[1] from 1993-2000.

Securacom provided security for the World Trade Center, United Airlines, and Dulles International Airport. The company was backed by KuwAm, a Kuwaiti-American investment firm on whose board Marvin Bush also served.

Marvin Bush is a former director of HCC Insurance Holdings,

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_P._Bush

He was re-elected to the board but the company was still under contract on Sept 11th.

In addition HCC Insurance, formerly Houston Casualty Co., was one of the insurance carriers for the WTC. He left the HCC board in November 2002.

testpie 09-14-2009 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16315558)
I really pity idiots like you. Do you think that perhaps I was trying to say "ask 10 guys who are in the professional class"? Of course some bumb or Burger King employee would not know about shorting stocks but people who are college educated should know basic things like that. Hell almost nobody I talk to even understands what FOREX is all about. That includes most professional people.

Please go back to your video games.

...You missed my point. Just because you wear a suit does not automatically mean you are involved in the financial part of any given business.

By your crackpot theory, the following people (and many more) apparently don't wear suits and aren't involved in any business other than flipping burgers:
  • HR staff
  • IT staff
  • Support staff
  • Strategy planning
  • Receptionists
  • Clerical staff
  • Administration staff
  • Teachers
  • Professors
  • Lecturers
  • ...and many more

Why should College-educated people automatically know about the finance industry? Again, this may come as a shock to you, but there are other degree and Major/Minor choices out there, other than finance - who do you think provides technical and engineering support to everyone? Magic stock exchange pixies?

onwebcam 09-14-2009 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16316288)

He was re-elected to the board but the company was still under contract on Sept 11th.

Should read "He wasn't re-elected" but still held his ownership.

baddog 09-14-2009 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by onwebcam (Post 16316292)
Should read "He wasn't re-elected" but still held his ownership.

Hey, it's wiki. They can put whatever they want.

onwebcam 09-14-2009 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by baddog (Post 16316327)
Hey, it's wiki. They can put whatever they want.

The typo error was my fault. I use a wireless keyboard and it's great at losing characters :thumbsup

Joe King 09-14-2009 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie (Post 16316285)
...You missed my point. Just because you wear a suit does not automatically mean you are involved in the financial part of any given business.

By your crackpot theory, the following people (and many more) apparently don't wear suits and aren't involved in any business other than flipping burgers:
  • HR staff
  • IT staff
  • Support staff
  • Strategy planning
  • Receptionists
  • Clerical staff
  • Administration staff
  • Teachers
  • Professors
  • Lecturers
  • ...and many more

Why should College-educated people automatically know about the finance industry? Again, this may come as a shock to you, but there are other degree and Major/Minor choices out there, other than finance - who do you think provides technical and engineering support to everyone? Magic stock exchange pixies?

You are beyond help my friend. Sad:(

Stardust_ 09-14-2009 06:33 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 16306935)
Imagine this. You're a 3 year old sitting on daddies lap while he drives. You have your hands on the steering wheel...... AND HE LETS GO!!!!!! OMG YOU'RE DRIVING THE CARRRRRRRRR AND YOU'RE THREEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!! Bet you could crash if too.

Yeah real hard.

Horrible, irrelevant example.

Naughty-Pages 09-14-2009 06:50 AM

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Originally Posted by who (Post 16314591)
What is the terminal velocity of a passport?

As I mentioned before I do not know, but it would certainly be higher than a feather and lower than a wallet... heck, actually when you think about it, if it's wide open it might even have some aerodynamic traits like a friggin glider, frisbee, or paper airplane lol

Voodoo 09-14-2009 06:54 AM

I believe a bunch of camel toes did 9-11.

testpie 09-14-2009 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16316784)
You are beyond help my friend. Sad:(

Indeed I am, but not because of pointing out your poor analogy.

Joe King 09-14-2009 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie (Post 16316930)
Indeed I am, but not because of pointing out your poor analogy.

Look up the definition of analogy. Wow, did you even go to school? Amazing

testpie 09-14-2009 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16316994)
Look up the definition of analogy. Wow, did you even go to school? Amazing

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Originally Posted by http://www.answers.com/analogy/
Analogy - A form of logical inference or an instance of it, based on the assumption that if two things are known to be alike in some respects, then they must be alike in other respects

You alluding to all people who wear suits being involved in the stock market is a poor analogy, as although some people who wear suits will be involved in the stock market or financial sector, it cannot be logically inferred that because somebody wears a suit, they must be involved in the finance sector.

I'll be the first to admit that the term "analogy" may not be the best-case fit for what your example was, but you still haven't bothered to try and explain what it is that you're driving at.

If you were trying to go for condescension through the implication that some business people wouldn't understand the concept of short selling, then you've failed by virtue of your argument that "all business people are involved directly with the financial sector" is inherently flawed.

Tom_PM 09-14-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Stardust_ (Post 16316813)
Horrible, irrelevant example.

I'll give you horrible, but not really irrelevant. They didnt need to know how to do much more than point the nose and the basics of air stalling and how not to do it. Basically steering.

Joe King 09-14-2009 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by testpie (Post 16317145)
You alluding to all people who wear suits being involved in the stock market is a poor analogy, as although some people who wear suits will be involved in the stock market or financial sector, it cannot be logically inferred that because somebody wears a suit, they must be involved in the finance sector.

I'll be the first to admit that the term "analogy" may not be the best-case fit for what your example was, but you still haven't bothered to try and explain what it is that you're driving at.

If you were trying to go for condescension through the implication that some business people wouldn't understand the concept of short selling, then you've failed by virtue of your argument that "all business people are involved directly with the financial sector" is inherently flawed.

No you fucking caveman I mean that adults who are productive members of society (especially professionals) should know the BASICS of the stock market.

And you are a typical moron who thinks it matters what a person majored in college. Does not matter the major/minor as you should take it on yourself to be a renaissance man. Look that up as well.

dyna mo 09-14-2009 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16317333)

This is why I hate humans. :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


they're the worst.

testpie 09-14-2009 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16317333)
No you fucking caveman I mean that adults who are productive members of society (especially professionals) should know the BASICS of the stock market.

And you are a typical moron who thinks it matters what a person majored in college. Does not matter the major/minor as you should take it on yourself to be a renaissance man. Look that up as well.

Why should people who don't deal with the financial sector understand concepts within it anymore than Average Joe should understand the complexities of VLSM? If an area isn't within your expertise, it can't be expected that you'd automatically know about it just because your colleagues in that sector do, thus by implying people are morons for not knowing about an area they don't deal in is a logical fallacy.

Why should the average person strive to become an expert in areas that don't interest them, just so they can fit your warped view of the world? Look outside your window at the economy - it's a system of specialism, whereby each individual takes up a job role within a speciality.

Think it through - if one person knew everything, everyone would set up as a sole trader.

Joe King 09-14-2009 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by testpie (Post 16317841)
Why should people who don't deal with the financial sector understand concepts within it anymore than Average Joe should understand the complexities of VLSM? If an area isn't within your expertise, it can't be expected that you'd automatically know about it just because your colleagues in that sector do, thus by implying people are morons for not knowing about an area they don't deal in is a logical fallacy.

Why should the average person strive to become an expert in areas that don't interest them, just so they can fit your warped view of the world? Look outside your window at the economy - it's a system of specialism, whereby each individual takes up a job role within a speciality.

Think it through - if one person knew everything, everyone would set up as a sole trader.

Ok you are trolling me. LOL :thumbsup

PornoStar69 09-14-2009 12:53 PM

nano thermite brought down the twin towers also wtc building 7

also that cunt Larry Silverstein made $7 billion out of the destruction of the twin towers - he renewed the lease months before which included terrorism - smart man.

Silverstein the dumb ass admits to pulling it meaning to bring down a building - CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. watch the video on Youtube. search Larry Silverstein

illuminati must be loving this, dumb asses still don't get it. hahahahaha

I think you should research what JFK believed in - he didnt want war, he wanted to be friends with Russia. Didnt like the FBI especially the CIA they told him lies, behind closed doors he planned on breaking up the FBI/CIA, he passed several acts which gave them less power. He WARNED us about SECRET SOCIETIES google it you can listen to the audio on Youtube, its very powerful.

The Elite/illuminati are working for that New World Order, at the moment they are WINNING.

MP Robin Cook, the Database and Secrets - Before he was MURDERED

On the day after the July 7th, 2005 bombings on London transport, former foreign secretary Robin Cook MP wrote what turned out to be his penultimate newspaper column for the Guardian. In it he revealed something about al-Qaeda that perhaps he shouldn't have.

Bin Laden was, though, a product of a monumental miscalculation by western security agencies. Throughout the 80s he was armed by the CIA and funded by the Saudis to wage jihad against the Russian occupation of Afghanistan.

Al-Qaida, literally "the database", was originally the computer file of the thousands of mujahideen who were recruited and trained with help from the CIA to defeat the Russians. Inexplicably, and with disastrous consequences, it never appears to have occurred to Washington that once Russia was out of the way, Bin Laden's organisation would turn its attention to the west.

As far as I know, this was the first time publicly, in the anglophone world, that the al-Qaeda name had been explained as referring to a computer database.

In the francophone world, a colourful former French military intelligence officer, Pierre-Henri Bunel, had had a book published in 2004, "Proche-Orient, une guerre mondiale?", extracts of which appeared [in French] on a French conspiracy website. The extract went into some detail of how al-Qaeda originally referred to a computer database of Islamist fighters. But, AFAIK, it was not until after Robin Cook had revealed the same in the Guardian, and after his death a month later, that an English translation of Bunel's words appeared on the web. It's a rough translation, which doesn't read well. But the basic outline of his account accords with what Cook had revealed.

Here's my suspicion: that Robin Cook knew nothing about P-H Bunel's book or article, and that his knowledge of the origin of the Qaeda name stemmed solelyfrom his time at the Foreign and Commonwealth Office. In other words, that both men had, independently of each other, revealed that, as they understood it, the designation 'al-Qaeda' had originally referred to a computer database. And, according to Bunel, that that name had been operative at least by the mid-'80s.

But yesterday MI5 the government published its 'narrative' of the July 7th bombings [.pdf]. Annex 3 of the whitewash was a chronology of the development of modern jihadism. Extract:

c1984 Radical preacher Abdullah Azzam set up an organisation called Maktab al-Khidmat (MAK) "Bureau of Services" to disseminate propaganda about jihad in Afghanistan. Usama bin Laden (UbL) joins.

1989 Withdrawal of Soviet forces from Afghanistan. UbL returns to Saudi Arabia. Decision by MAK to continue to support jihadist causes. Thinking around "the base" or "foundation" (translation: Al Qaida) for further operations articulated.

1988-89 UbL disagreement over focus of the cause and starts to form Al Qaida. [...]

So, MI5's version of the aetiology of the 'Qaeda' name makes no mention of computer databases, or its use by western intelligence agencies before 1989, and it repeats previous explanations as to its origins. So, either Cook and Bunel were wrong, or they were right but wrong to reveal it. And while Bunel is a peripheral figure lacking credibility, Robin Cook was neither.

When I first read Cook's July 8th article, and the zinger about 'al-Qaeda' as a database, I wondered about what secret he might reveal to us next. But now I wonder about what, say, MI6 thought about the possibility of the former foreign secretary, who had signed the Official Secrets Act for life, revealing other things that he shouldn't (if, that is, the database story were true). Then, it would have become a matter of national security. How could they prevent him from repeating his mistake? Could they have had him arrested and charged under the OSA? Did they try to speak to him, between July 8th and August 6th, 2005, to warn him as to his future conduct?

If Robin Cook was starting to spill secrets, his sudden death one month later would have saved the defence, intelligence and security services from having to confront a difficult problem, one which would have had no obvious, certain solution.

baddog 09-14-2009 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PornoStar69 (Post 16318148)
nano thermite brought down the twin towers also wtc building 7

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

PornoStar69 09-14-2009 01:46 PM

A danish scientist Niels Harrit, on nano-thermite in the WTC dust ( english subtitles )
https://youtube.com/watch?v=8_tf25lx_3o

Niels Harrit and 8 other scientists found nano-thermite in the dust from the World Trade Center.

He is interviewed on danish TV2 News.

People can see a full transcript, news, forum and the video in high quality here:
http://agenda911.dk/article.php?story...

Another site in danish is encouraging people to stand forward demanding a new investigation here:
http://www.i11time.dk/

The full report from the scientists can be found here:
http://www.bentham-open.org/pages/con...

MALLcom 09-14-2009 01:57 PM

this one is a classic!!!!!

this guy needs new cell service.

PS. they were getting cell service cause they were not at 35,000 feet, they were at more like the amount of feet of a 100 story building which is not too high at all!

:2 cents::2 cents:

dyna mo 09-14-2009 02:19 PM

nanothermite is not an explosive and has been shown, time and again, to not create sufficient energy to cut steel. the sheer amount required to cut even hope to cut one steel beam is overwhelming.

until someone can show the math/science/calculations of what it would take to collapse both towers and wtc 7, there's no sense in even discussing the possibility of nanothermite as the means of destruction.

Joe King 09-14-2009 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MALLcom (Post 16318409)
this one is a classic!!!!!

this guy needs new cell service.

PS. they were getting cell service cause they were not at 35,000 feet, they were at more like the amount of feet of a 100 story building which is not too high at all!

:2 cents::2 cents:

Are there any buildings tens of thousands of feet high? Ok. I was referring to the reports from the FBI that some of calls from the planes were from cell phones while the planes were in the air. Ever tried making a cell phone call from an airplane? The planes would have had to be very close to the ground. Ok so the planes were not at 35,000 feet, I was just venting. You got me there. But I doubt any cell phone calls could have been made.

This cell phone issue is just a small detail. Forget it. Focus on building number 7. That is what really gets people stop and say "huh?".

baddog 09-14-2009 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16318581)
Ever tried making a cell phone call from an airplane? The planes would have had to be very close to the ground.

I have. We were up several thousand feet and over the ocean before it cut out.

Naughty-Pages 09-16-2009 06:33 PM

I'm unsubscribing from this thread so it doesn't show up in my CP.. cuz man,.. this is just buttered goofy nutzo whacky shit.. LMAO...

I think that when the aliens came in 44, they were the ones in the grassy knoll ..

that crazy comment does not even compare to the ones in here..

somehow, someone put in some strategic demolition bombs into the whimpy non strategic building #7 planning on someone flying planes into both WTC buildings....??? (I am gonna blow up the whitehouse and then to make it even better, i will take out some outhouses nearby LMFAO)

the passporte thing, i have explained that.. and what's even worse is apart from how things can travel, I know that in the mid 80's there was a hurricaine in the gulf of mexico, several days later small nickel sized salt water jelly fish appeared in fresh water lakes in the North East US including upstate NY 1400+ miles away.. i am guessing the government dropped them there to kill off those that might be allergic?

LOL.. this thread is just not worth anyones time..

but maybe i am a government agent trying to convince you otherwise!!! LOL j/k... ... ..

...

...or maybe i am not a government agent?

... or am i?

.. or am i not?
.. maybe i target porn forums and that is my special op's deal.. i am all kungfu james bond on this shit and i am trying to cover for the government..

or not...
but maybe, just maybe i am..

but maybe i am not...

actually, who does number 2 work for anyway?
i dunno..

anywhoo gotta unsubscribe from this fantasy land thread..

later..

Phoenix 09-16-2009 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by spanky part 2 (Post 16316172)
And you get your information from where? I can post a bunch of stuff too, but it doesn't make it true.

Give me a link to your insanity.

you call me insane...but this is public knowledge

and you know nothing about it?

yet you claim to have a good bead on what happened

you need to take a look around at the world...cause there are lots of things happening

RRACY 09-17-2009 12:09 PM

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8n-nT...eature=related

Leave it up to Grandma to tell the truth...:winkwink:

baddog 09-17-2009 12:10 PM

150 truthers

smutnut 09-17-2009 01:42 PM

It just happens that planes were involved in this and Bush couldn't show up for his weekend air force reserve meetings. Coincidence? I think not!

RRACY 09-18-2009 05:45 AM

Now you see it now you don't...:1orglaugh

https://youtube.com/watch?v=rh7cKDXnS_s

testpie 09-27-2009 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Joe King (Post 16317333)
No you fucking caveman I mean that adults who are productive members of society (especially professionals) should know the BASICS of the stock market.

And you are a typical moron who thinks it matters what a person majored in college. Does not matter the major/minor as you should take it on yourself to be a renaissance man. Look that up as well.

I have to take the higher ground and admit I was being a bit of a dick to you, and for that I apologise.

I would, however, like to thank you for your profound statement about being a "renaissance man" - I've been mulling it over for a while now and have to say it's one of the best bits of advice I've ever received.

You've actually transcended usual forum banter and transformed my life, in what I'm sure sounds like a meaningless and insignificant way, but for that I say this - thank you.


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