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Rui 11-03-2009 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16499077)
Now if all I had to do was surf GFY like some of the "players" on here...then I might stick with XP for forever. lol

Uncalled for, plus most people doing what you said where the first ones to jump into the Vista bandwagon...

(like you did... :winkwink:)

tranza 11-03-2009 09:05 AM

I heard it is pretty decent indeed.

Robbie 11-03-2009 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Rui (Post 16499251)
Uncalled for, plus most people doing what you said where the first ones to jump into the Vista bandwagon...

(like you did... :winkwink:)

No, I stuck with XP until Nov. of last year. But then I bought a new machine to better handle the intense video work I do on it. Which meant 64 bit and 16 gigs of RAM. XP 64 bit isn't supported by Photoshop 64 bit or the different architecture they have on Premiere CS4 (they are moving CS5 to all 64 bit in a couple of months...and no XP won't be supported).

So if I wanted to be able to have a good workflow and fast rendering I needed to tap into my computers speed and power. XP 64 bit couldn't. So I ended up on Vista and hated it (no bandwagon jumping here). Windows 7 so far has none of the little quirks and annoyances that Vista had. And frankly if Vista had been as good as it was supposed to be I wouldn't have left it either. But I couldn't WAIT for Win 7 to finally come out so I could get rid of Vista and still have my Adobe stuff work with 64 bits.

It works better out of the box than XP did in the beginning too. (remember what xp was like before SP2?)

Not joining in the Mac vs. Windows vs. Linux fight, but Win 7 seems to be the most user friendly, fastest, and most stable os I've ever used. :)

Mr. Romance 11-03-2009 09:08 AM

Robby that is a very handsome picture of you! Hope all is going well my friend!


Mr. Romance

Megan Essog 11-03-2009 09:40 AM

Looks like I need to save my pennies to get a new PC....

just a punk 11-03-2009 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by C4W (Post 16498578)
Anyone runs the 64bit version?

Me (have Win7 64bit installed on one my desktops). It's a same Vista - believe me. My be a little bit improved, but that "little bit" even not enough to call it Vista SP3. It's still a very raw operating system.

Loch 11-03-2009 10:31 AM

Rule of thumb, NEVER install anything microsoft until its 2 years old!
In Vistas case it barely got to that age so if people had stuck to the (Microsoft rule) no one would have ever had a problem lol

"or much of a problem anyways"

shuki 11-03-2009 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16499277)
No, I stuck with XP until Nov. of last year. But then I bought a new machine to better handle the intense video work I do on it. Which meant 64 bit and 16 gigs of RAM. XP 64 bit isn't supported by Photoshop 64 bit or the different architecture they have on Premiere CS4 (they are moving CS5 to all 64 bit in a couple of months...and no XP won't be supported).

So if I wanted to be able to have a good workflow and fast rendering I needed to tap into my computers speed and power. XP 64 bit couldn't. So I ended up on Vista and hated it (no bandwagon jumping here). Windows 7 so far has none of the little quirks and annoyances that Vista had. And frankly if Vista had been as good as it was supposed to be I wouldn't have left it either. But I couldn't WAIT for Win 7 to finally come out so I could get rid of Vista and still have my Adobe stuff work with 64 bits.

It works better out of the box than XP did in the beginning too. (remember what xp was like before SP2?)

Not joining in the Mac vs. Windows vs. Linux fight, but Win 7 seems to be the most user friendly, fastest, and most stable os I've ever used. :)

What are the specs on your photo/video machine?

CharlieBrown 11-03-2009 11:07 AM

im gonna get it next time i have to format and reinstall, vista ill never bother with

TheDoc 11-03-2009 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Robbie (Post 16499132)
Would be no good for me. I have CS4 Photoshop and CS4 Premiere Pro. Both tweaked up with batches and settings that I've worked on for years. So moving all of that over to a Linux machine with new software would be utltra time consuming...and I'm not sure that Gimp would do the trick for me replacing Photoshop...and since I'm a Premiere guy with video it would be a huge leap to try and move to another video editing software. :(

Have you ever actually used Gimp? It's photoshop on superman crack. All your photo editor plugins, all the shit CS does, can be done in Gimp - and it's faster. And if Gimp can't do it, another tool can, that will be 1000's of times faster than PS.

Video editing wise... Linux is the #1 OS used in Hollywood. Used by Pixar and Dreamworks, and almost every other studio. South park uses Linux backend with Mac desktops. The secretaries personal desktop linux machine could be used as part of the render cluster, making every machine in the office, part of the render pie.

I bet you can find Video Editing software that looks almost like Premiere, or a skin that will change one over.

If you're using windows, your spending twice the time to do the same work as someone else and probably spending 100% more the money.

JD 11-03-2009 01:05 PM

go banana!

dallasnovelty 11-03-2009 01:12 PM

I have been using Win7 for about 3 months now and it definitely rox compared to Vista. Vista always had errors or issues with everything. I'm getting my wife started in Win7 today with her new Toshiba laptop with Home Premium loaded.

I think its very comparable to XP speed without the crashes or network/hardware glitches.

just a punk 11-03-2009 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dallasnovelty (Post 16500153)
I think its very comparable to XP speed without the crashes or network/hardware glitches.

You just think that because you never seen the benchmarks. Am I right? First that you should know is that Win7 needs 2 times (TWO TIMES!!!) more memory than Vista. Now google for benchmarks and you'll be surprised: almost in any test Vista works FASTER than Win7.

Should I say that Vista sucks a lot comparing with XP? :pimp

candyflip 11-03-2009 03:21 PM

I've heard that it runs nice on ancient P4 machines. Thanks for the verification and feedback.

wizzart 11-03-2009 04:51 PM

Yes it rock but I still think it not complete jet, all big games don't work on W7 :(

dav3 11-03-2009 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by wizzart (Post 16501100)
Yes it rock but I still think it not complete jet, all big games don't work on W7 :(

What games have you run across that won't run on w7?

fryer 11-03-2009 10:36 PM

Windows7 isn't bad at all. They had to get it somewhat right this time. Vista was like WindowsME. Then XP came out which was good. Vista was rocky. Windows7 is good. The next version is bound to be bad ;]

NETbilling 11-03-2009 10:49 PM

I am curious to see a comparison from any of you that run Mac and Windows 7.
Better than the Mac OS?

trevesty 11-03-2009 11:13 PM

I'm about to buy a new machine with Win7 on it.. glad to see the good feedback.

sandman! 11-03-2009 11:15 PM

Xp was nothing like ME while windows 7 is 90% the same code as vista.



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Originally Posted by fryer (Post 16502488)
Windows7 isn't bad at all. They had to get it somewhat right this time. Vista was like WindowsME. Then XP came out which was good. Vista was rocky. Windows7 is good. The next version is bound to be bad ;]


flashfire 11-04-2009 01:36 AM

I love how people blame the OS when a six year old computer struggles to run it...guess what my 486 cant run XP either

Realgfs 11-04-2009 01:53 AM

Looking forward to upgrading to win 7, still uses XP cause vista was shit

curiousdog 11-04-2009 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Loch (Post 16499506)
Rule of thumb, NEVER install anything microsoft until its 2 years old!
In Vistas case it barely got to that age so if people had stuck to the (Microsoft rule) no one would have ever had a problem lol

"or much of a problem anyways"

Guess you are right. I installed win 7 one month before the official launch, my Microsoft Certified Systems Administrator friend gave me a copy.

Result: in general it works great. The safety features are great too. Fast and easy install.

Details:
  • my fairly recent HP all in one scanner printer did not work
  • Microsoft Photo Story did not work (and no solution anywhere on the internet). Actually, it refuses to install. A program by Microsoft itself!
  • a few more such obnoxious problems

More interesting: in the pre-relase version, at least the photo story worked.

Result: I am keeping my other computers on xp xp computers so I can run everything without problems.

curiousdog 11-04-2009 09:22 AM

Microsoft's forced obsolescents
 
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Originally Posted by flashfire (Post 16503147)
I love how people blame the OS when a six year old computer struggles to run it...guess what my 486 cant run XP either

but it can run linux, even with graphical interface.

My 25 year old BMW still runs perfectly, so why can an old computer not run nowadays? That seems to be the union of intel and microsoft to make everything obsolete.

But I have to confess that win 7 works better then Dos 3, and my old 8086 would not run any meaningful operating system any more. Actually, maybe it would run rudimentary linux.

And of course, you could leave your Dos 3 on the old computer. The problem is that Microsoft itself does not provide compatibility to its own programs. I have a book written in Microsoft Word for Dos 4 or 5 or 6 and simply it can not be converted. And now they invented Docx format. They use cunning tricks so you MUST upgrade

Or in my case, I MUST install word for Dos 5 to be able to read the book

But returning to windows 7: after 25 years, finally Microsoft did something right.

Octopus 11-04-2009 10:59 AM

I want to try it. Heard it's cool.

375media 11-04-2009 11:14 AM

i beta tested it from day one. and i have to say its the best windows OS so far.

Robbie 11-04-2009 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 16502589)
windows 7 is 90% the same code as vista.

I sold a Hummer H2 two years ago...it was AWESOME. Drove great, looked great, was a total pleasure to drive.

It's built on the exact same platform as the Tahoe.

I can assure you that driving a Hummer and a Tahoe are two COMPLETELY different driving experiences.

And having used every windows os since windows 2, I can tell you that I used Vista Ultimate 64 for the past year. I moved to Win 7 Ultimate 64 on Oct. 23rd.

The differences between the two OS's are just as big as the difference between a Hummer H2 and a Tahoe.

Vista was full of quirks. One of the worst was the way that they set up networking with Vista. It didn't allow you to run your network card at full speed. It would disconnect you at random times it you tried it. It also required you to go in and completely alter the tcp properties if you attempted to run wirelessly. Thousands of school systems that bought new computers with Vista had a nightmarish time trying to get that sorted out.

Windows 7 runs fast and clean right out of the box. They addressed all those annoyances and issues.

I also see the posts about benchmarks. Well benchmarks are good. But they don't take into account individual machines. My computer has dual quadcore processors and 16 gigs of ram. It's a monster. I ran xp 64, vista 64, and now win 7 64 on it. Win 7 absolutely is faster. I use Adobe Premiere CS4 for video rendering. I do it everyday. Vids are rendering FASTER than ever before. I use Photoshop CS4 64 bit edition. Batches are running faster. I use Thumbs Plus, batches are running faster.

Those are just my observations on my main work machine.

I put it on the machine in my bedroom too. It is a 2005 model with dual xeon processors. It's 32 bit. And was running Windows XP. But it had gotten so sluggish over time that it would take me 20 to 30 seconds just to open windows explorer to see my drive.

I could have wiped it and reinstalled xp and gotten it kicking ass again I'm sure. But I went ahead and moved up to Win 7 32 bit. The only thing I needed to do was replace the old 2005 graphics card with a new one to be able to use the Aero on Win 7. I did that, and this machine is booting faster than ever and running so smooth it's a pleasure.

just a punk 11-04-2009 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by wizzart (Post 16501100)
Yes it rock but I still think it not complete jet, all big games don't work on W7 :(

It's because W7 "rox" :winkwink:

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Originally Posted by dav3 (Post 16501242)
What games have you run across that won't run on w7?

There are lots of them. For example, official Russian version of LineAgeII doesn't, as many other indeed. Win7 is VistaSP3 and it sucks actually.

just a punk 11-04-2009 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman! (Post 16502589)
Xp was nothing like ME

LOL at you :)

XP and ME are absolutely different systems. ME was build on top of MS-DOS like 3.1x, 95 and 98 and never been a real standalone operating system. On the other hand, XP was built on NT core. Windows XP 32bit (NT 5.1) has almost the same core with Windows 2000 (NT 5.0). While Windows XP 64bit (NT 5.2) has absolutely the same core with Windows 2003 Server (NT 5.2).

Go get some clue man, as we used say here: RTFM :winkwink:

Persius 11-04-2009 12:09 PM

not only does win7 ultimate run great but the quality and customization of things is great :)

http://i38.tinypic.com/2qu55yc.jpg

Ppl need to throw away their 2003 systems and upgrade . Win7 is great for multi-tasking and fast too!

bbobby86 11-04-2009 12:10 PM

it is working very safe and fast... nice design... love it...

just a punk 11-04-2009 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Persius (Post 16506023)
Ppl need to throw away their 2003 systems and upgrade . Win7 is great for multi-tasking and fast too!

As I said above, I have Win7 installed on the computer I'm typing this reply from. I'm not a girl and I don't get wet of some nlice looking shiny things. I'm a male and used to estimate the OS by it's functionality (speed, system requirements, amount of software I can run at it etc). Thus as for now I can say that Win7/Vista still suck. Furthermore Win7 works even slower than Vista (according to benchmarks in the Net) and requires more memory to launch itself (according to its own list of requirements).

mabourque 11-04-2009 12:30 PM

I really Need it :) Vista Suck big time :error

combson 11-04-2009 12:38 PM

I have installed Windows 7 Ultimate few months ago and never looked back, just need to find a good Anti-virus Program, there is still no decent stuff.. :2 cents:

The Judge 11-09-2009 02:52 AM

i think i'll wait at least a year before trying it

RadicalSights 11-09-2009 03:12 AM

I've never had a single problem with Vista Home Premium.

RadicalSights 11-09-2009 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by combson (Post 16506220)
I have installed Windows 7 Ultimate few months ago and never looked back, just need to find a good Anti-virus Program, there is still no decent stuff.. :2 cents:

I use Zone Alarm (free firewall)
and the default protection that comes with Vista and I've never had a single virus yet.

I also scan once or twice a week with kaspersky free scanner online.

http://www.kaspersky.com/virusscanner

pentae 11-09-2009 03:31 AM

I'm running Windows7 64bit on my MacBook Pro and Teamspeak 2 is not picking up my internal mic :( although windows does recognise it and it works with all other programs.. just incompatibility i suppose.


No other real complaints so far, runs Borderlands smoothly :)

ModelPerfect 11-09-2009 06:52 AM

I love Win7 x64! My computer seems more responsive than it did with XP. Faster reboots and program starts as well.

After reading lots of reviews, I decided on Avast for anti-virus, and it works great.

As for a Firewall, I like the Windows 7 version, although I use the "Windows 7 Firewall Control" which gives you greater control. By default, Windows blocks all incoming traffic but allows all outgoing traffic. With the Control, everything is customizable and allows you to block all outgoing unless you manually give permission (pretty much like most other firewalls).

sex69 11-09-2009 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 16499089)
Ubuntu.... boots faster, shuts down faster, will run longer, is more stable, almost no virus/spyware issues, and has more kick ass developed FREE software at your finger tips than Windows could ever dream of.

Oh, and it's free online or $25 in your local store, with free updates.

He he, same here


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