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DarkJedi 12-16-2002 02:59 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
What's it about?
drugs ? :1orglaugh

DrGuile 12-16-2002 02:59 PM

Asuna, je suppose que tu parles francais.

le film "Requiem for a Dream" est la version americaine du film "Requiem pour un beau sans-coeur"

Loue la version quebecoise si tu peux. Tres tres bon.

asuna 12-16-2002 03:02 PM

I don't know where to get the french version, i'll snoop around abit tonight

eroswebmaster 12-16-2002 03:15 PM

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Originally posted by Colin

Did you find other support groups or get sober on your own?

LOL...you have 1700+ posts but have not yet crossed a Fletch Corona thread.

winter 12-16-2002 03:26 PM

Requiem for a Dream:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0180093

#41 on imdb.com. I seriously think this movie should be shown to kids in high school, so they realize the dangers of drug addiction.

Just the Village Idiot 12-16-2002 03:38 PM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
His mother has also said she won't buy him a car when he turns 16 in 8 months if she can't trust him to be responsible.
Poor baby -- no car at 16...

Guess his friends will have to drive him around. Now there is a deterrent!

:1orglaugh

DrGuile 12-16-2002 03:40 PM

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Originally posted by asuna
I don't know where to get the french version, i'll snoop around abit tonight

any renting place in montreal should have it.

where do you live?

cold_ice 12-16-2002 04:09 PM

He wont stop unless he is ready to stop. You can talk your head off, it will just go in one ear and out the other( might even make him pull away from you). I talk from experience my story is a fucked up one so I wont share cuz I might just make it worst for you. I have been drug free for a long ass time, but it all came from me. I stopped but it was cuz I was ready to stop. Just be a sister and a friend not a parent or a cop. Maybe you should not even bring it up just tell him you love him and that your happy that he is okay then just drop it. He knows he fucked why remind him. good luck:2 cents:

UncleJimmy 12-16-2002 04:31 PM

Well Cheshire,

Sometimes kids gotta do what they gotta do, be there to love and support him but also realize that often times all you can do is pray that they make it through the tough years.

When I was 15 I had become a pretty heavy drugie & partier, went to the hospital more than once.

Years later I barely graduated from HS, went in the USAF for a lil over a decade, cleaned up my drug act, then eventually had to clean up my drinking act, got my B.S. with a 4.0 & then decided to quit that & become a full time webslinger...

The moral of this lil tale? Some of us lil drunken, stoned, fucked up heathens turn out ok later on in life... Like I said early on, just pray that he makes it through the rough times ok, and tell him you're worried about his safety, etc... I don't know how much that will do to stop him from doing crazy shit, but all you can do is try and be assured that you've done the best job you can as the big sis.

I dread the day my lil 7 year old sister gets into some shit that I have to talk to her about.... But she's family so I'm suspecting that it might happen sooner or later as well.


Good luck with him and keep a chin up....things usually work out as they should have in the end (yeh I'm a fatalist in some regards LOL)

- type-atcha-later

foe 12-16-2002 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by multisexsite
Let him see some porn websites and tell him being addicted to porn is better than being addicted to drugs, plus he can get off 4 times a day.

:1orglaugh

TeraBabes 12-16-2002 05:59 PM

I don't really have any advice for you Cheshire... other than to be honest with him, let him know how much you love him, and tell him you are worried about him.

Good luck.

bhutocracy 12-16-2002 07:19 PM

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Originally posted by winter
Requiem for a Dream:

http://us.imdb.com/Title?0180093

#41 on imdb.com. I seriously think this movie should be shown to kids in high school, so they realize the dangers of drug addiction.

meh.. it might be shocking to kids that are fairly sheltered.. it wasn't so bad.. plus the kid's doing pot and booze - showing him a movie on heroin won't do jack shit.. not many kids even think about using heroin.. even guys doing meth and that sort of thing don't touch it.. showing him that will just alienate him and quite probably insult him.. it's not like it really shows normal people.. they deal heroin.. it's not a shocking movie.. the best part of it was the mother and the prescription drug abuse..dealt with very well as she slips into a "weightloss" speed psychosis.. they should have cut the kids out of it.. boring as hell another ho-hum "drugs are bad m'kay" cliche bit but too polished and not enough substance... trainspotting was a better movie in that regard..

I believe it's better he gets it out of his system in highschool.. the vast majority of highschool potsmokers stop in their early-mid 20's.. as long as he isn't a heavy user it's a good chance he will. It's a much preferable situation than the sheltered highschool kids that go nuts in college and start in their early 20's.. college is where you start your career.. you can't be fucking that up too much..
the question is making him not become a heavy pot user.. once or twice a fortnight is fine.. every day is not cool in your teens.. it increases the chance of developing psychosis and schizophrenia exponentially..

the other problem is designer drugs.. which as he sounds in an upper class situtation he's in very real danger of.. when I was in Sydney and spoke to people from the richer north shore suburbs it was crazy the amount of ecstasy and other shit they did.. little rich kids with heaps of disposable income.. the dealers target them.. they're like drug guinea pigs.. both parents are working, not at home a lot.. the kids go nuts.. worse than middle class kids smoking pot that can't afford eccies at $25 a pop. they fuck you up if you take them often, screwing with your serotonin levels..

lots of research into the harm they cause.. but heaps of kids do 'em these days.. and it's always hard to warn people off them when they see their friends doing them and having a bunch of fun...
it's a matter of giving real non-propaganda information but at the same time condoning a little experimentation.. casual pot use.. getting drunk every other weekend so your opinions don't clash too much with what he sees around him.

PornBroker 12-16-2002 07:27 PM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
I gotta have a chat with my 15 year old brother tonight about drugs. This will be the second one, as a few months after the first he was rushed to the emergency room having been found by his best friend passed out on the floor of his dorm room choking on his own vomit.
He's too young to start drinking or smoking pot like he is. I know he's just rebelling against authority and wanting to experience altered states of conciousness, but he's my baby brother. I still remember vividly the day he was born and I held him for the first time, I prayed for a baby brother and my prayer had been answered.
I love him more than life itself, and I don't want to lose him, physically or emotionally.
What do I tell him? What can I do?
Does anyone have some real ideas, thoughts, experiences, or phrases to share with me?

I wish you all the best with your bro.:)

cherrylula 12-16-2002 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by DarkJedi


dood, i once smoked so much that i almost died !!

at first i couldnt move.....then i was vomiting all over the place.....then i got so pale, i got scared when i saw myself in the mirror....i felt so bad that i asked my friends to drive me to ER (i really though i was gonna die), but halfway there i just told them to drop me off at my place. I woke up next day lying on the floor.

damn dude. Can you get more of the same stuff? :1orglaugh :winkwink:

eRock 12-16-2002 07:51 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


horseshit. You are in controll of your own destiny.

Hey...your dad was in AA right!? He obviously drank himself there & I'm positive the shitty things he did cuz of drinking wasn't cuz he wanted to, Think about it! Believe me...you're not in control of it. If you don't have the disease, you are...so how would you know?

It's something only other addicts/drunks would understand anyway.

eRock 12-16-2002 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by asuna


I'll post it again... whats Requiem for a Dream

Also, check out the movie "Rush". Another good flick on how it spins way outta control.

Dusen 12-16-2002 07:56 PM

15 and a dorm room?

asuna 12-16-2002 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by DrGuile



any renting place in montreal should have it.

where do you live?

a friend of mine has it, gonna watch it tonight :thumbsup

Rep 12-16-2002 08:31 PM

as sad as it sounds drug addicts either overdose and die or overdose and get straight.

institutions, incarceration, and death isnt that how the rehab saying went.

SleazyDream 12-16-2002 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by eRock

Hey...your dad was in AA right!? He obviously drank himself there & I'm positive the shitty things he did cuz of drinking wasn't cuz he wanted to, Think about it! Believe me...you're not in control of it. If you don't have the disease, you are...so how would you know?

It's something only other addicts/drunks would understand anyway.

how do you know I don't understand, you're just assuming I don't. First sign of a fool.

Joining AA is taking controll of your destiny. Blaiming addiction on heredity or saying it's a disease is just removing the blame from where it should land. Even though AA is a little fuzzy on this point, AA makes it's members ask for forgiveness and make amends for wrong doings. Own up to your own problems and don't blaim them on society, friends, genetics, or the like. That's just a scapegoat.

Just because you weren't in controll doesn't mean you arn't responsible for your actions. If you took action to loose controll you're responsible for everything that happens when you're out of controll.

chodadog 12-16-2002 09:52 PM

My mother always took a sort of different route with me than most parents do with their kids. When it came time to tell me about sex, the first thing she showed me was a book on Genital Warts and other STD's that she borrowed from her friend who was a nurse. Closeup, high detailed pictures. Lovely stuff. Needless to say, i don't bang every slut that comes onto me.

With drugs and alchohol, she took me to where she works. She works in aged care, and there are many people there who are totally destroyed, from drug and/or alchohol abuse. Some of these guys are as young as 40, and all they can do is sleep, breathe, eat (assisted by a nurse) and shit themselves.

She also told me about experiences she's had, with friends she's lost from people abusing alchohol, etc. Things like that really get to you, and give you a much better understanding of the consequences.

bhutocracy 12-16-2002 11:47 PM

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Originally posted by SleazyDream


how do you know I don't understand, you're just assuming I don't. First sign of a fool.

Joining AA is taking controll of your destiny. Blaiming addiction on heredity or saying it's a disease is just removing the blame from where it should land. Even though AA is a little fuzzy on this point, AA makes it's members ask for forgiveness and make amends for wrong doings. Own up to your own problems and don't blaim them on society, friends, genetics, or the like. That's just a scapegoat.

Just because you weren't in controll doesn't mean you arn't responsible for your actions. If you took action to loose controll you're responsible for everything that happens when you're out of controll.

if you blame something else you can't really fix the problem. blaming hereditry alcoholism is BS... you should know not to get drunk if thats the case.. making it more personal responsibility

ADL Colin 12-17-2002 06:34 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster


LOL...you have 1700+ posts but have not yet crossed a Fletch Corona thread.

1700 posts in one weekend and Fletch was out fishing.

ADL Colin 12-17-2002 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by eRock

Hey...your dad was in AA right!? He obviously drank himself there & I'm positive the shitty things he did cuz of drinking wasn't cuz he wanted to, Think about it! Believe me...you're not in control of it. If you don't have the disease, you are...so how would you know?

It's something only other addicts/drunks would understand anyway.

eRock - I see your point but the fact that you are clean now is proof that you do have control - ultimately.

Ross 12-17-2002 07:20 AM

Someone has already said this I think

But be truthful with your brother tell him that it does him no good and will never do him any good at all.....

Say you have never found any reason to do drugs in your life and you are doing good in life.... Make him see the positive side of not doing them and also give him a small insight into what life could be like if he got heavily into drugs!!

I know its very easy for all of us to sit here typing away telling you what to say but in reality its a lot harder than we can imagine!

My cousins friends were trying to get him to smoke marijuana and he told my uncle about it.... My uncle said ok if you wanna try you will do it infront of me! Just so he would be there if anything happened and my little cousin tried it ( this was about 1 year ago) and to this day he has never touched the stuff again!!!

I am not saying you should let your brother try it but try and make him understand that it isn't the best or smartest thing on earth and also tell him he will have better things to spend his $$$ on!!!

Just my :2 cents: Hope it helps Cheshire

ps thanx for the e-mail back about the T shirt for Angie! :thumbsup

BVF 12-17-2002 07:28 AM

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Originally posted by Cheshire
I have tonight, then he's off to New Zealand in the morning and back to boarding school on the East Coast hours after returning in January.
you said it right there...."boarding school"....he does hard drugs AND his parent's aren't around to fuck him up?

All you can do is hope he grows out of it before he either overdoses or does something else extremely stupid to end his life.

If I were you, the first thing I'd do is take him out of that boarding school. He can live with you and go to a real high school.

Hot Tropical Babes 12-17-2002 07:47 AM

I think there are deeper problems causing the drug and alcohol problems you are seeing. Some kids cannot cope with boarding school. Separation anxiety, abandonment issures...ect. Boarding schools are real close to military life styles. I believe I would address that first, then go from there. IMO
Good luck Cheshire. From one big sis to another :)

Serge Litehead 12-17-2002 07:54 AM

www.hyperreal.org


also movie trainspotting - some of the movie episodes remembered long after at the similar situations, its entertaining if just hwatching it and thinking it won't happen to you, but few years pass and it surfaces in consiousness

goBigtime 12-17-2002 08:10 AM

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Originally posted by salsbury


agreed. kid needs to go home.


Totally.

It's understandable that upper class parents sometimes need the extra space/time/freedom required to make the money and support the lifestyle everyone in the family is used to. But sometimes the cost is just too high. Sometimes it's better to take a little paycut & get a promotion in parenting.

I wonder if chesire went to boarding school too? In boarding school the parents usually wind up being nothing more than plastic credit card blur to the kids. At a time in your life when its easy to fight and be angry with your parents - by default, it just adds a ton of fuel to the fire when your parents "ship you off".

Even though kids might SAY they are cool with it all, there are still times when your sitting there alone & thinking about it all and why things are the way they are.

But then you smoke some _______ with the other kids that are feeling just like you and your all better and ready to face the world again :thumbsup

But I guess not everyone who goes to boarding school comes out in handcuffs, dead or on a stretcher -- if they did, parents wouldn't send them there right? right?

Boarding schools, drug-addicted parents, parents into domestic violence and stuff like that brings up kids in the same way -- they feel abandoned. Kids are going to feel abandoned on their own as it is during their young adult lives.... all of this stuff just makes it more of a chronic condition than a temporary one.


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