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Tittylizer 02-15-2010 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16851994)
Are you kidding? This is great publicity. :1orglaugh

Hahahah, here's a bump for J and adult copywriters :thumbsup

notime 02-15-2010 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16851994)
Are you kidding? This is great publicity. :1orglaugh

John, I need up to 4 press releases done the next week and the week after for some urls.
Can you drop me an email please?

Thanks in advance.

hashbury 02-15-2010 01:39 PM

Ive never dealt with either one of these guys, but after this thread I would have no problems dealing with ACW. I mean really you got 105 post for FREE and you got your money back. WTF do you have to complain about. It might have cost you some time but you know you will be using all those post. Not to mention you got your money back, Now you can go buy the post you originally wanted from someone cheaper.
So as I see it you got 105 for free, a full refund (no proccessing fees), and you will probably go with another company that is cheaper anyways.
Why would you send an attachement in an email with a few hundred galleries, and not just the ones you wanted done? This confuses me, you talk about being professional, I consider this just plain lazy and unprofessional.
These people are running a business not a charity. If you had gone with any other company or person and this had happened I would bet you would have not gotten a refund.
You really should be thankful that they tried everything they could do to make you happy within common sense.

Domain Broker 02-15-2010 01:44 PM

The OP is quite an idiot I have to admit, even though I hate John.

J. Falcon 02-15-2010 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 16852038)
John, I need up to 4 press releases done the next week and the week after for some urls.
Can you drop me an email please?

Thanks in advance.

Email sent :thumbsup

Arnox 02-15-2010 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by themadwriter (Post 16851983)
Most any site that you got to that offers Adult Copywriting services is going to look pretty much the same.

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851870)
Do you really want this guy writing your posts?

themadwriter; You directly copied the meta description and title of ACW. For a self proclaimed SEO copywriter that's kind of, well, you know, bad?

themadwriter 02-15-2010 01:57 PM

Hey Arnox before you speak out of your ass, know what it is exactly you're speaking about and have some proof to back up your allegations!

Arnox 02-15-2010 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by themadwriter (Post 16852127)
Hey Arnox before you speak out of your ass, know what it is exactly you're speaking about and have some proof to back up your allegations!

http://www.xxxcopywriters.com

<title>Adult SEO, Content Writing and Copywriting Services</title>
<meta name="description" content="Adult Copywriting and SEO Services by XXX Copywriters.">

http://www.adultcopywriters.com

<title>Adult SEO, Content Writing and Copywriting Services - Adult Copywriters</title>
<meta name="description" content="Adult Copywriting and SEO Services by Adult Copywriters." />

themadwriter 02-15-2010 02:07 PM

Hey John Falcon take this as maybe some of the best advice you'll ever be given!

Put a leash on your dogs (ARNOX) before they get bitten.

Cause whatever it is you got going on in this thread has nothing to do with me.

So these indirect attacks at me and my site better stop.

You've been to my site and if you though that there was any content there that you may have felt was copied, it's for you to man up and open your mouth and say something.

You don't want me to post our past here on GFY and allow that the users decide what type of person YOU REALLY ARE?

so like I said in the beginning of my post; put a leash on her before she gets you bitten!

themadwriter 02-15-2010 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 16852147)
http://www.xxxcopywriters.com

<title>Adult SEO, Content Writing and Copywriting Services</title>
<meta name="description" content="Adult Copywriting and SEO Services by XXX Copywriters.">

http://www.adultcopywriters.com

<title>Adult SEO, Content Writing and Copywriting Services - Adult Copywriters</title>
<meta name="description" content="Adult Copywriting and SEO Services by Adult Copywriters." />

So if i understand this correctly the books i read on what were the best metatags depending on the company you are trying to open, the best way to word them and me following those instructions is your proof?

WOW, you must have put alot of thought into that one!

Arnox 02-15-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by themadwriter (Post 16852174)
So if i understand this correctly the books i read on what were the best metatags depending on the company you are trying to open, the best way to word them and me following those instructions is your proof?

WOW, you must have put alot of thought into that one!

My proof is given. Your evidence for reading books on meta tags hasn't been provided. Until you can clearly prove your tags came from such a location, it's acceptable for my assumption to be accepted as fact.

This is slightly off topic now. Just forget I ever said anything.

themadwriter 02-15-2010 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Arnox (Post 16852195)
My proof is given. Your evidence for reading books on meta tags hasn't been provided. Until you can clearly prove your tags came from such a location, it's acceptable for my assumption to be accepted as fact.

This is slightly off topic now. Just forget I ever said anything.

You as well obviously never heard the expression of assuming making an ASS out of YOU and ME.

So i really hope that you're not expecting that your ASSUMPTION take the place of that of a FACT!

J. Falcon 02-15-2010 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadwriter (Post 16852157)
Hey John Falcon take this as maybe some of the best advice you'll ever be given!

Put a leash on your dogs (ARNOX) before they get bitten.

Cause whatever it is you got going on in this thread has nothing to do with me.

So these indirect attacks at me and my site better stop.

You've been to my site and if you though that there was any content there that you may have felt was copied, it's for you to man up and open your mouth and say something.

You don't want me to post our past here on GFY and allow that the users decide what type of person YOU REALLY ARE?

so like I said in the beginning of my post; put a leash on her before she gets you bitten!

He was posting on his own account. But you're right, no hard feelings.
Best of luck with your business. :thumbsup

fardoche27 02-15-2010 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851890)
All the work for free? I don't think so, I got 20 posts for free and 85 posts I didn't ask for. I waited six weeks for those 20 posts. I didn't expect you to give me all the work for free, I expected you to do the job you were paid to do, When you didn't I expected you to make the amends that you said you would. You didn't


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Originally Posted by iameros
Just after 3 weeks the first batch of posts were delivered.

Busted!!!

Like most of the posters here I will say this. I have worked personally with John for the last 4 years and he has never disapointed me. In fact, I have learned alot from him. The way he took his company and built it from the ground up to what it is today is amazing. This guy has pure writing talent.

To make this worthless thread is kinda pointless. You want to warn other webmasters that ACW did not finish the work and they did not charge you anything... what's the point of that ???

You know what?? Honda did not sell me a car and I didn't have to pay for it. what a rip off!!!

end of post.

J. Falcon 02-15-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Tittylizer (Post 16851977)
Be careful when doing business with Adult Copywriters, they give you your money back when they make a mistake and even include some free work. :1orglaugh



That pretty much sums up the thread right there. :2 cents:

iameros 02-15-2010 11:25 PM

To those of you who've felt it necessary to slander me in this thread, by calling me an idiot, greedy or a jerk, good luck to you. If you cannot partake in a thread without having to resort to name calling, then you're pretty pitiful.

In response to all of those who have defended John, as I have said repeatedly, I'm glad to hear that so many of you have had a good experience in using Adult Copywriters but the fact remains that AC fucked up and didn't keep their word with regards to how they were going to make good.

It's interesting, the general concensus appears to be, "Be happy with what you got" or "You're lucky you got what you did". I say bullshit. If someone fucks up and they make a commitment to make good then they should keep their commitment and if they don't intend to they should have that common decency to let the company or person know that they don't intend to. This fact is not in dispute and whilst lots have come to AC's defense, I belive there are many others who have read this and agree.

iameros 02-15-2010 11:27 PM

And fuck letting this die. I fully intend to spam every thread that AC does with a link to this one. If John belives this is good publicity for him, then he should have no need to be concerned.

iameros 02-15-2010 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 16852984)
Busted!!!

Like most of the posters here I will say this. I have worked personally with John for the last 4 years and he has never disapointed me. In fact, I have learned alot from him. The way he took his company and built it from the ground up to what it is today is amazing. This guy has pure writing talent.

To make this worthless thread is kinda pointless. You want to warn other webmasters that ACW did not finish the work and they did not charge you anything... what's the point of that ???

You know what?? Honda did not sell me a car and I didn't have to pay for it. what a rip off!!!

end of post.

Yes that's right. Keeping someone waiting for thee weeks for 20 posts is bad business. Tha'ts exactly one of the things I'm saying.

fardoche27 02-15-2010 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16853404)
Yes that's right. Keeping someone waiting for thee weeks for 20 posts is bad business. Tha'ts exactly one of the things I'm saying.


And how much money did you lose exactly?

bloggingseo 02-16-2010 01:02 AM

Iameros, you are not getting more free posts plus a refund. This is not the world of getting something for nothing. So many try and most fail. Even if John did offer you more free posts for a split second in time, I'm sure within a split second he realized that you did not deserve them at all. No one works for free and you got your money plus some free posts. You just sound like you're mad that John changed his mind over giving you additional free posts and you are stomping around like a baby about it. Let it go. You sound like one of those guys who enjoys a porn membership, downloads all of the content, and then charges back the membership. Just sayin'....

Honestly, I think John did the right thing. I am sure you are probably a nice guy but you just react strongly to not getting your way even after being generously compensated for all of your troubles. It sounds as if there was an honest mistake and you just can't let it go. I am sure that it sucked for you as far as how long it took to get the work and that you didn't get exactly what you wanted .However, what you were given in return for your troubles was more than fair. Take a good, hard look and think about this. In business, when there is a dispute and a judge rules, typically the judge gives you enough to make you "whole" again. In other words, you don't profit from something, you are simply put back in the place before the problem occurred. In this case, you were given your money back PLUS you got free posts. You got a windfall. To expect more of a windfall is both unfair and a bit outrageous. If I were to believe your story and John did offer you more posts for a moment in time, I'm sure he realized within moments that you were undeserving of them. Just like in court, you were made whole plus you got a bit of a windfall. In a court system, you would get NO windfall. To expect more is just ludicrous and not realistic.

iameros 02-16-2010 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bloggingseo (Post 16853502)
Iameros, you are not getting more free posts plus a refund. This is not the world of getting something for nothing. So many try and most fail. Even if John did offer you more free posts for a split second in time, I'm sure within a split second he realized that you did not deserve them at all. No one works for free and you got your money plus some free posts. You just sound like you're mad that John changed his mind over giving you additional free posts and you are stomping around like a baby about it. Let it go. You sound like one of those guys who enjoys a porn membership, downloads all of the content, and then charges back the membership. Just sayin'....

Honestly, I think John did the right thing. I am sure you are probably a nice guy but you just react strongly to not getting your way even after being generously compensated for all of your troubles. It sounds as if there was an honest mistake and you just can't let it go. I am sure that it sucked for you as far as how long it took to get the work and that you didn't get exactly what you wanted .However, what you were given in return for your troubles was more than fair. Take a good, hard look and think about this. In business, when there is a dispute and a judge rules, typically the judge gives you enough to make you "whole" again. In other words, you don't profit from something, you are simply put back in the place before the problem occurred. In this case, you were given your money back PLUS you got free posts. You got a windfall. To expect more of a windfall is both unfair and a bit outrageous. If I were to believe your story and John did offer you more posts for a moment in time, I'm sure he realized within moments that you were undeserving of them. Just like in court, you were made whole plus you got a bit of a windfall. In a court system, you would get NO windfall. To expect more is just ludicrous and not realistic.

Thans for very civil reponse and no I have never charged back a porn membership (lol) and I have had many :)

iameros 02-16-2010 01:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 16853438)
And how much money did you lose exactly?

Obviously thats difficult to quantify but my site could have been up six week ago so defintely lost time in ranking in the serps.

darksoul 02-16-2010 02:33 AM

very weak drama. You should be ashamed for posting this shit.

iameros 02-16-2010 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by darksoul (Post 16853607)
very weak drama. You should be ashamed for posting this shit.

I'm not ashamed at all. Nice avatar pic btw

Dating Port 02-16-2010 04:20 AM

I'm sure John would love for you to post a link to this thread on all his posts. It's the best resume I've seen in a long time:2 cents:

iameros 02-16-2010 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dating Port (Post 16853716)
I'm sure John would love for you to post a link to this thread on all his posts. It's the best resume I've seen in a long time:2 cents:

I'll be sure to do that then.

fris 02-16-2010 05:29 AM

so you got your money back, and you still want free work, pathetic.

iameros 02-16-2010 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16853791)
so you got your money back, and you still want free work, pathetic.

No I want the provider to do what he commited to. Obvioulsy I realise that's not going to happen but want to make sure everyone knows that this provider doesn't honour his commitments.

MoreMagic 02-16-2010 06:06 AM

This is probably this biggest fail thread of this century.

iameros 02-16-2010 06:18 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 16853833)
This is probably this biggest fail thread of this century.

I disagree, I think that whilst most people that have actually posted herein have sided with John, there have been hundreds of views to this thread and undoubtedly some would have seen my point of view.

It's funny, how everyone keeps thinking that this is good publicity for John and keep posting to thread and thereby bumping it back up to the top.

Personally I think hundreds of people seeing a thread titled "Be careful when doing business with Company Name" will almost certinaly negatively impact a company despite the content therein.

John behaved unprofressionally and dis-honourably and he is getting what he deserves.

But hey guys, keep posting, I'm perfectly happy to keep replying to any comments you might have. :1orglaugh

fris 02-16-2010 06:21 AM

thread title doesnt matter when the content speaks for itself being 100's of happy clients, you got your money back, what else do you want from him.

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 06:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16853856)
I disagree, I think that whilst most people that have actually posted herein have sided with John, there have been hundreds of views to this thread and undoubtedly some would have seen my point of view.


The only person who sees your "point of view" is the same writer you gave the same job to at half price. Coincidence? Don't think so.

iameros 02-16-2010 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16853872)
The only person who sees your "point of view" is the same writer you gave the same job to at half price. Coincidence? Don't think so.

Yeah John you just keep beliving that. The only reason other people who agree aren't posting in this thread is that they don't want to get involved in the shitstorm. Just admit you were wrong dude. You promised me something in black and white and weren't man enough to keep your commitment or to even let me know.

iameros 02-16-2010 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fris (Post 16853867)
thread title doesnt matter when the content speaks for itself being 100's of happy clients, you got your money back, what else do you want from him.

100's of happy clients, there have been a couple of dozen responses. Out of all the work that John has done, you would think there would be lots more rushing to his defense. Come on people, I'll be here all day :thumbsup

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16853907)
100's of happy clients, there have been a couple of dozen responses. Out of all the work that John has done, you would think there would be lots more rushing to his defense. Come on people, I'll be here all day :thumbsup

Wow you really are pathetic and have no sense at all.

iameros 02-16-2010 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16853928)
Wow you really are pathetic and have no sense at all.

Interesting that you;ve now felt the need to take this to the owner of gfy, considering that you think it's such great publicity.

If you really think you're in the right then why worry?

VladS 02-16-2010 07:53 AM

They have issued a refund and you also get to keep the free content... They have admitted the mistake and did their best to solve it. Honestly, i don't see what's the big deal...

MoreMagic 02-16-2010 08:02 AM

He is just greedy, but also a little judging mistake of falcon.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 16854169)
They have issued a refund and you also get to keep the free content... They have admitted the mistake and did their best to solve it. Honestly, i don't see what's the big deal...


Rick Diculous 02-16-2010 08:12 AM

hmmmm.... so if I got by your logic iameros just because one customer had a "bad" experience, everybody should stay away??

so this means that if I go eat in some restaurant on a friday night and the restaurant is full with 100 customers and the waitress makes a mistake on my order, I sould warn the entire population to stay away because 1 of the customers was unhappy? This is pretty weak

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Diculous (Post 16854218)
hmmmm.... so if I got by your logic iameros just because one customer had a "bad" experience, everybody should stay away??

so this means that if I go eat in some restaurant on a friday night and the restaurant is full with 100 customers and the waitress makes a mistake on my order, I sould warn the entire population to stay away because 1 of the customers was unhappy? This is pretty weak

To better evaluate your analogy: the waitress makes a mistake, the owner decides to not charge you for the meal, and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine on the house, and still he wants to warn others to stay away.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rick Diculous (Post 16854218)
hmmmm.... so if I got by your logic iameros just because one customer had a "bad" experience, everybody should stay away??

so this means that if I go eat in some restaurant on a friday night and the restaurant is full with 100 customers and the waitress makes a mistake on my order, I sould warn the entire population to stay away because 1 of the customers was unhappy? This is pretty weak

When did I ever say everyone should stay away. Even the title of my post doesn't say that, it simply says Be Careful. This is just some additional info for those that are considering choosing AC for the writing requirments.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 16854169)
They have issued a refund and you also get to keep the free content... They have admitted the mistake and did their best to solve it. Honestly, i don't see what's the big deal...

No, they didn't do their best to solve it. They didn't stick to what they said they were going to do to solve it.

Try reading the thread completely.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 16854185)
He is just greedy, but also a little judging mistake of falcon.

It's not greedy, just an expectation for people to stick to their word or doesn't that mean anything anymore.

And even if I was or am greedy, so what. Greed is what drives a capitlist economy.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16854226)
To better evaluate your analogy: the waitress makes a mistake, the owner decides to not charge you for the meal, and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine on the house, and still he wants to warn others to stay away.

"to better evaluate your analogy.."your use of grammar is pathetic, I'm amazed you can make a living through writing.

To EXPAND on the analogy, the waitress fucks up your meal completely. The owner realises he can't charge you for your mearl and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine (that you didn't order). He also offers you free dessert but then when you ask for your dessert, he says "I've changed my mind, now fuck off".

Would you go back to this restaurant. Would you recommend it to your friends?

ipolic 02-16-2010 09:14 AM

Just good words and thumbs up from here for Adult Copywriters...I used them and never had any issues!

fardoche27 02-16-2010 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by themadwriter
put a leash on her before she gets you bitten!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You really are mad

pathetic

iameros 02-16-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 16854427)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You really are mad

pathetic

I don't think he's mad, I think he has info about John that John defintely doesn't want to come to light. Notice how quickly John backed down when themadhatter threatened him.

Of course I dont know for sure, but I think there's more to this story....

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16854703)
I don't think he's mad, I think he has info about John that John defintely doesn't want to come to light. Notice how quickly John backed down when themadhatter threatened him.

Of course I dont know for sure, but I think there's more to this story....

Of course you don't know, so you would be wise to shut up.

If he or you have any "info" you are both free to share it right here for everyone to see. I am getting tired of your threats on this thread as well as your accusations. It is time that the mods take a look at this thread. Thank you for showing everyone how professional you are, trying to ruin someone's business based on nothing but bulllshit. If I had known you would act like this I would not have given you the money back.

CPimp 02-16-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851754)
That's your profressional reaction. lol

Apparently you don't know how to read. You come in here, being even newer than I am, and try to disrupt the business of someone who has never had a problem with anyone for as long as I have been here, and I am sure even longer than that without a doubt.

You made a mistake and I think you should man up and accept it and apologize. But what am I thinking? That stuff doesn't happen anymore. Nobody is ever wrong.

CPimp 02-16-2010 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16854264)
"to better evaluate your analogy.."your use of grammar is pathetic, I'm amazed you can make a living through writing.

To EXPAND on the analogy, the waitress fucks up your meal completely. The owner realises he can't charge you for your mearl and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine (that you didn't order). He also offers you free dessert but then when you ask for your dessert, he says "I've changed my mind, now fuck off".

Would you go back to this restaurant. Would you recommend it to your friends?

The level of lowness that you are obviously willing to stoop to, to try and ruin someone's business, really disgusts me. A lot of BIG NAME people have come in here and said they've never had a problem with J Falcon's work. If they had a problem, I am sure they would have taken this guy out of the game. It's not hard for a person who's been in the industry for 25-100x the length of time that you've been here to sink someone who honestly screwed them over or did something they didn't like.


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