Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 16854427)

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You really are mad

pathetic

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16855004)

thanks for the warning.

Originally Posted by notime (Post 16851711)

@poster:
Communication is one of the most difficult things in the world today.
Any form of not being absolutely clear as how you want things done in advance whereas the other party understands 100% what you mean, could end up in terrible miscommunication and assumptions (which are the "mother of all fuckups" usually, if you don't mind me using this well know quote, I mean no harm here for you but I will defend Jonh's reputation).

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851334)

Hi

I'm posting this as a warning to all webmasters who intend doing business with Adult Copywriters as I have just had a very bad experience with them.

I've previously used Adult Copywriters, along with many other writers on these boards and whilst the posts were delivered slightly later than expected and the price of the work is higher than most other adult copy writers, for the most part I was pleased with the quality of the work.

Based on this I decided to give them another project of 210 blog posts to write. I dicussed the project with John Falcon from Adult Copywriters and we agred on the paramaters and price of the project, which was that it would take six weeks and half of the posts would be delivered in 3 weeks. I paid my deposit, sent an email with an attachment which contained a few hundred galleries and specifically marked which one's I needed done. I also explained this very clearly in the mail.

Just after 3 weeks the first batch of posts were delivered. It took me day or two to get around to looking at them but when i did, I realised he had delivered 105 gallery posts, but only 20 of them were one's that I had marked. So 85 incorrect ones in total.

I sent an email asking him what was going to be done and did not receive a reply. I sent a few more mails and after about four days he eventually got back to me.

He offered to refund me my money and deliver the remaining (incorrect posts) as well as to allow me to retain rights to the one's already sent. I said this was fair and so the refund went through. This was last week.

A short while ago I contacted Falcon to ask him what had happened to the rest of the posts. I will post the transcript of that conversation in another message below.

Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 16855198)

It almost start to smell like fake drama, this guy cant be that stupid.

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16855055)

The only warning worth reading was the one just issued above me.

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16855661)

Genius thread!!!


J.Falcon did you troll your self for the publicity?lol JK



J.Facon is good in my book.:thumbsup

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851334)

sent an email with an attachment which contained a few hundred galleries and specifically marked which one's I needed done. I also explained this very clearly in the mail.

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 16856415)

Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.

Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16855004)

thanks for the warning.

Originally Posted by tube2k (Post 16854950)

Apparently you don't know how to read. You come in here, being even newer than I am, and try to disrupt the business of someone who has never had a problem with anyone for as long as I have been here, and I am sure even longer than that without a doubt.

You made a mistake and I think you should man up and accept it and apologize. But what am I thinking? That stuff doesn't happen anymore. Nobody is ever wrong.

Originally Posted by Eric (Post 16855038)

IAmEros,

You are not selling anything in this thread. I am moving this thread to the main forum, as that is where it belongs.

If you have an issue with the work of someone, then you are fine posting that. Keep your threats in your pocket. This will be your only warning.

Eric

Originally Posted by dig420 (Post 16856415)

Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16856299)

I have read the thread and have just one question. Why did you send a list with galleries marked? Why not send a list of the galleries that you wanted posts for? This would have eliminated the possibility of you getting the wrong posts.

Or did you think that that was a writer's responsibility, to sort through your list for you?

In any deal like this the client has some responsibility for the success of the job.

As far as the rest goes I call what JF did "firing a client". I have done it more often then I would like to admit but basically, when dealing with a client that is more pain oa a pain in the ass than the cash is worth, I fire them. I give them back all their money and leave the work in the condition it is in and tell them "sorry, it did not work out".

Most of the clients I have fired are ones who think that because they have paid me for programming or design time that they can use me to maintain their site, fix their database entries, all sorts of menial tasks that the client should have taken care of themselves.

Sort of like asking a writer to sort through your list of galleries for you.

Just my :2 cents:

Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 16855305)

I never worked with J. Falcon, but it sure does seem like he bent over backwards to clear this up and he even gave you the product and money back.....hardly call that a rip off....just my :2 cents:

Originally Posted by fatfoo (Post 16857013)

Good luck with your posts, iameros.

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16857007)

Since this has come up more than once, I will explain. I had over 2,000 galleries that I wanted Falcon to write posts for. This order was the first 200 of them. They were supplied in an excel sheet in which there was a column titled Notes under which I wrote POST REQUIRED. I then sent this with a mail, in which I clearly explained that only the posts with note; POST REQUIRED should be written.

Oh yes, and there was no sorting required as it was the first 20 posts of each sheet.

Is that really so difficult?

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16857015)

In what way did I get the product and money back. Yes I got my deposit back and I got 20 posts I ordered, 85 which I didn't. .

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16857007)

I had over 2,000 galleries that I wanted Falcon to write posts for. This order was the first 200 of them.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16857151)

Much more difficult then if you had only sent the 200 galleries that you wanted done. If there had only been those 200 there would have been no chance of the wrong galleries getting picked.

But then again, you would have had to do work to prepare properly then.

Much better to throw that work at someone who you didn't pay to do it.

You paid for writing, not going through multiple page spreadsheet lists.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16857151)

Much more difficult then if you had only sent the 200 galleries that you wanted done. If there had only been those 200 there would have been no chance of the wrong galleries getting picked.

But then again, you would have had to do work to prepare properly then.

Much better to throw that work at someone who you didn't pay to do it.

You paid for writing, not going through multiple page spreadsheet lists.

Originally Posted by sarettah (Post 16857172)

So, let's see. You say you got 20 posts you ordered and 85 you didn't. But yet you also indicate that you planned to have them do all 2000. So it is hardly like the 85 that you didn't order are unusable.

I think you just want to whine.

Originally Posted by themadwriter (Post 16855002)

not mad, just surprised as well as disappointed that someone who considers them self to be so professional would allow one of their signature whores talk out of their ass not realizing the consequences those actions have on the company whose signature the owner allows him to use when posting!

Like iameros stated in one of his previous posts, you're best attempt at expressing your opinion was ended with a remark such as "pathetic"

Grow up and when you can state your opinion passionately as well as objectively without feeling the need for name calling feel free to come on back and grace us with your profound intelligence!

Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16854940)

Of course you don't know, so you would be wise to shut up.

If he or you have any "info" you are both free to share it right here for everyone to see. I am getting tired of your threats on this thread as well as your accusations. It is time that the mods take a look at this thread. Thank you for showing everyone how professional you are, trying to ruin someone's business based on nothing but bulllshit. If I had known you would act like this I would not have given you the money back.

Originally Posted by BAKO (Post 16857277)

you failed at the internets

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16857224)

No response Falcon? Mmmm, I wonder why....?

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16857210)

Did I ask the provder to note down which posts he should write. No, I asked him to write the posts that I had marked for writing. Very tricky stuff :Oh crap

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16856980)

How do you know he's never had a problem with anyone else, are you the omnipotent God of the boards?

Originally Posted by themadwriter (Post 16855002)

not mad, just surprised as well as disappointed that someone who considers them self to be so professional would allow one of their signature whores talk out of their ass not realizing the consequences those actions have on the company whose signature the owner allows him to use when posting!

Like iameros stated in one of his previous posts, you're best attempt at expressing your opinion was ended with a remark such as "pathetic"

Grow up and when you can state your opinion passionately as well as objectively without feeling the need for name calling feel free to come on back and grace us with your profound intelligence!

Originally Posted by V_RocKs (Post 16858234)

#2 - Never heard of these guys until now. I just put in a request for 200 myself. Who knows, maybe I can get half of them for free?