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fris 02-16-2010 06:21 AM

thread title doesnt matter when the content speaks for itself being 100's of happy clients, you got your money back, what else do you want from him.

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 06:23 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16853856)
I disagree, I think that whilst most people that have actually posted herein have sided with John, there have been hundreds of views to this thread and undoubtedly some would have seen my point of view.


The only person who sees your "point of view" is the same writer you gave the same job to at half price. Coincidence? Don't think so.

iameros 02-16-2010 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16853872)
The only person who sees your "point of view" is the same writer you gave the same job to at half price. Coincidence? Don't think so.

Yeah John you just keep beliving that. The only reason other people who agree aren't posting in this thread is that they don't want to get involved in the shitstorm. Just admit you were wrong dude. You promised me something in black and white and weren't man enough to keep your commitment or to even let me know.

iameros 02-16-2010 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 16853867)
thread title doesnt matter when the content speaks for itself being 100's of happy clients, you got your money back, what else do you want from him.

100's of happy clients, there have been a couple of dozen responses. Out of all the work that John has done, you would think there would be lots more rushing to his defense. Come on people, I'll be here all day :thumbsup

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16853907)
100's of happy clients, there have been a couple of dozen responses. Out of all the work that John has done, you would think there would be lots more rushing to his defense. Come on people, I'll be here all day :thumbsup

Wow you really are pathetic and have no sense at all.

iameros 02-16-2010 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16853928)
Wow you really are pathetic and have no sense at all.

Interesting that you;ve now felt the need to take this to the owner of gfy, considering that you think it's such great publicity.

If you really think you're in the right then why worry?

VladS 02-16-2010 07:53 AM

They have issued a refund and you also get to keep the free content... They have admitted the mistake and did their best to solve it. Honestly, i don't see what's the big deal...

MoreMagic 02-16-2010 08:02 AM

He is just greedy, but also a little judging mistake of falcon.

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Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 16854169)
They have issued a refund and you also get to keep the free content... They have admitted the mistake and did their best to solve it. Honestly, i don't see what's the big deal...


Rick Diculous 02-16-2010 08:12 AM

hmmmm.... so if I got by your logic iameros just because one customer had a "bad" experience, everybody should stay away??

so this means that if I go eat in some restaurant on a friday night and the restaurant is full with 100 customers and the waitress makes a mistake on my order, I sould warn the entire population to stay away because 1 of the customers was unhappy? This is pretty weak

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Diculous (Post 16854218)
hmmmm.... so if I got by your logic iameros just because one customer had a "bad" experience, everybody should stay away??

so this means that if I go eat in some restaurant on a friday night and the restaurant is full with 100 customers and the waitress makes a mistake on my order, I sould warn the entire population to stay away because 1 of the customers was unhappy? This is pretty weak

To better evaluate your analogy: the waitress makes a mistake, the owner decides to not charge you for the meal, and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine on the house, and still he wants to warn others to stay away.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick Diculous (Post 16854218)
hmmmm.... so if I got by your logic iameros just because one customer had a "bad" experience, everybody should stay away??

so this means that if I go eat in some restaurant on a friday night and the restaurant is full with 100 customers and the waitress makes a mistake on my order, I sould warn the entire population to stay away because 1 of the customers was unhappy? This is pretty weak

When did I ever say everyone should stay away. Even the title of my post doesn't say that, it simply says Be Careful. This is just some additional info for those that are considering choosing AC for the writing requirments.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Gsx-R (Post 16854169)
They have issued a refund and you also get to keep the free content... They have admitted the mistake and did their best to solve it. Honestly, i don't see what's the big deal...

No, they didn't do their best to solve it. They didn't stick to what they said they were going to do to solve it.

Try reading the thread completely.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 16854185)
He is just greedy, but also a little judging mistake of falcon.

It's not greedy, just an expectation for people to stick to their word or doesn't that mean anything anymore.

And even if I was or am greedy, so what. Greed is what drives a capitlist economy.

iameros 02-16-2010 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16854226)
To better evaluate your analogy: the waitress makes a mistake, the owner decides to not charge you for the meal, and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine on the house, and still he wants to warn others to stay away.

"to better evaluate your analogy.."your use of grammar is pathetic, I'm amazed you can make a living through writing.

To EXPAND on the analogy, the waitress fucks up your meal completely. The owner realises he can't charge you for your mearl and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine (that you didn't order). He also offers you free dessert but then when you ask for your dessert, he says "I've changed my mind, now fuck off".

Would you go back to this restaurant. Would you recommend it to your friends?

ipolic 02-16-2010 09:14 AM

Just good words and thumbs up from here for Adult Copywriters...I used them and never had any issues!

fardoche27 02-16-2010 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by themadwriter
put a leash on her before she gets you bitten!

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You really are mad

pathetic

iameros 02-16-2010 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 16854427)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You really are mad

pathetic

I don't think he's mad, I think he has info about John that John defintely doesn't want to come to light. Notice how quickly John backed down when themadhatter threatened him.

Of course I dont know for sure, but I think there's more to this story....

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16854703)
I don't think he's mad, I think he has info about John that John defintely doesn't want to come to light. Notice how quickly John backed down when themadhatter threatened him.

Of course I dont know for sure, but I think there's more to this story....

Of course you don't know, so you would be wise to shut up.

If he or you have any "info" you are both free to share it right here for everyone to see. I am getting tired of your threats on this thread as well as your accusations. It is time that the mods take a look at this thread. Thank you for showing everyone how professional you are, trying to ruin someone's business based on nothing but bulllshit. If I had known you would act like this I would not have given you the money back.

CPimp 02-16-2010 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851754)
That's your profressional reaction. lol

Apparently you don't know how to read. You come in here, being even newer than I am, and try to disrupt the business of someone who has never had a problem with anyone for as long as I have been here, and I am sure even longer than that without a doubt.

You made a mistake and I think you should man up and accept it and apologize. But what am I thinking? That stuff doesn't happen anymore. Nobody is ever wrong.

CPimp 02-16-2010 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16854264)
"to better evaluate your analogy.."your use of grammar is pathetic, I'm amazed you can make a living through writing.

To EXPAND on the analogy, the waitress fucks up your meal completely. The owner realises he can't charge you for your mearl and on top of that gives you a complimentary bottle of wine (that you didn't order). He also offers you free dessert but then when you ask for your dessert, he says "I've changed my mind, now fuck off".

Would you go back to this restaurant. Would you recommend it to your friends?

The level of lowness that you are obviously willing to stoop to, to try and ruin someone's business, really disgusts me. A lot of BIG NAME people have come in here and said they've never had a problem with J Falcon's work. If they had a problem, I am sure they would have taken this guy out of the game. It's not hard for a person who's been in the industry for 25-100x the length of time that you've been here to sink someone who honestly screwed them over or did something they didn't like.

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 11:59 AM

He doesn't realize how stupid he makes himself look. Let him keep posting and let it serve as a warning to other service providers.

themadwriter 02-16-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by fardoche27 (Post 16854427)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

You really are mad

pathetic

not mad, just surprised as well as disappointed that someone who considers them self to be so professional would allow one of their signature whores talk out of their ass not realizing the consequences those actions have on the company whose signature the owner allows him to use when posting!

Like iameros stated in one of his previous posts, you're best attempt at expressing your opinion was ended with a remark such as "pathetic"

Grow up and when you can state your opinion passionately as well as objectively without feeling the need for name calling feel free to come on back and grace us with your profound intelligence!

Agent 488 02-16-2010 12:08 PM

thanks for the warning.

Eric 02-16-2010 12:32 PM

IAmEros,

You are not selling anything in this thread. I am moving this thread to the main forum, as that is where it belongs.

If you have an issue with the work of someone, then you are fine posting that. Keep your threats in your pocket. This will be your only warning.

Eric

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488 (Post 16855004)
thanks for the warning.

The only warning worth reading was the one just issued above me.

pornguy 02-16-2010 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by notime (Post 16851711)
@poster:
Communication is one of the most difficult things in the world today.
Any form of not being absolutely clear as how you want things done in advance whereas the other party understands 100% what you mean, could end up in terrible miscommunication and assumptions (which are the "mother of all fuckups" usually, if you don't mind me using this well know quote, I mean no harm here for you but I will defend Jonh's reputation).

It is truly amazing what the lack of communication in this business.

alan-l 02-16-2010 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851334)
Hi

I'm posting this as a warning to all webmasters who intend doing business with Adult Copywriters as I have just had a very bad experience with them.

I've previously used Adult Copywriters, along with many other writers on these boards and whilst the posts were delivered slightly later than expected and the price of the work is higher than most other adult copy writers, for the most part I was pleased with the quality of the work.

Based on this I decided to give them another project of 210 blog posts to write. I dicussed the project with John Falcon from Adult Copywriters and we agred on the paramaters and price of the project, which was that it would take six weeks and half of the posts would be delivered in 3 weeks. I paid my deposit, sent an email with an attachment which contained a few hundred galleries and specifically marked which one's I needed done. I also explained this very clearly in the mail.

Just after 3 weeks the first batch of posts were delivered. It took me day or two to get around to looking at them but when i did, I realised he had delivered 105 gallery posts, but only 20 of them were one's that I had marked. So 85 incorrect ones in total.

I sent an email asking him what was going to be done and did not receive a reply. I sent a few more mails and after about four days he eventually got back to me.

He offered to refund me my money and deliver the remaining (incorrect posts) as well as to allow me to retain rights to the one's already sent. I said this was fair and so the refund went through. This was last week.

A short while ago I contacted Falcon to ask him what had happened to the rest of the posts. I will post the transcript of that conversation in another message below.

sorry, but you're beyond stupid :(

MoreMagic 02-16-2010 01:22 PM

It almost start to smell like fake drama, this guy cant be that stupid.

Nikki_Licks 02-16-2010 02:05 PM

I never worked with J. Falcon, but it sure does seem like he bent over backwards to clear this up and he even gave you the product and money back.....hardly call that a rip off....just my :2 cents:

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MoreMagic (Post 16855198)
It almost start to smell like fake drama, this guy cant be that stupid.

If only. But yes, he is that stupid. And yes, he will try to ruin someone over some bullshit.

MakingItPay 02-16-2010 03:18 PM

I can understand the guy's disappointment in not getting all the free stuff he was told he would get. But, he was more than made whole, and to complain about it as if this would keep anyone from working with J. Falcon is a bit much. This thread makes me want to do business with J. Falcon.

magpan 02-16-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by J. Falcon (Post 16855055)
The only warning worth reading was the one just issued above me.

Well put. Too many threads with this kind of BS pop up on this site, glad that Eric caught up with it (as he always does, anyways). :thumbsup

papill0n 02-16-2010 03:35 PM

you sound like a whinging kid who needs a good dose of reality

JustDaveXxx 02-16-2010 03:52 PM

Genius thread!!!


J.Falcon did you troll your self for the publicity?lol JK



J.Facon is good in my book.:thumbsup

J. Falcon 02-16-2010 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx (Post 16855661)
Genius thread!!!


J.Falcon did you troll your self for the publicity?lol JK



J.Facon is good in my book.:thumbsup

Sadly no.There are people this stupid in the industry, who are willing to ruin someone's reputation over nothing.

Loch 02-16-2010 05:08 PM

First of all this should not even have been on the boards, now that it is im sure its just more business for Falcon :)

Secondly, Falcon most would drag this out and not refund, standup move.

Thirdly, im sure that this guy is more pissed about the wasted time then anything

Fourth :)
We all screw up, all of us have (Hey Notime, pardon our last delay) :(
Some things just fall through the cracks when you have been in business a LONG time.

woj 02-16-2010 05:39 PM

This is some very weak drama, barely registering on my dramaometer...:2 cents:

fardoche27 02-16-2010 06:43 PM

Let's give this thread a bump for J. Falcon. I'm sure he apreciates the good publicity this gives him

sarettah 02-16-2010 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iameros (Post 16851334)
sent an email with an attachment which contained a few hundred galleries and specifically marked which one's I needed done. I also explained this very clearly in the mail.

I have read the thread and have just one question. Why did you send a list with galleries marked? Why not send a list of the galleries that you wanted posts for? This would have eliminated the possibility of you getting the wrong posts.

Or did you think that that was a writer's responsibility, to sort through your list for you?

In any deal like this the client has some responsibility for the success of the job.

As far as the rest goes I call what JF did "firing a client". I have done it more often then I would like to admit but basically, when dealing with a client that is more pain oa a pain in the ass than the cash is worth, I fire them. I give them back all their money and leave the work in the condition it is in and tell them "sorry, it did not work out".

Most of the clients I have fired are ones who think that because they have paid me for programming or design time that they can use me to maintain their site, fix their database entries, all sorts of menial tasks that the client should have taken care of themselves.

Sort of like asking a writer to sort through your list of galleries for you.

Just my :2 cents:

dig420 02-16-2010 07:36 PM

Sounds good. I have about 4k clips that need descriptions, ACW hit me up with your pricing.


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