We need Shemp and a drama rating in here.

Contacting you right now.

You're welcome, I'm sure many others who have read this feel the same way.

How do you know he's never had a problem with anyone else, are you the omnipotent God of the boards?

I made a mistake? Now you're just being obtuse.

Eric, what threats? Please can you point out to me when I have threatened this service provider in this thread?

WARNING: At the rate that Falcon wrote posts for me, you can expect to receive those in approximately 10 years and to pay in excess of $14K. :2 cents:

Since this has come up more than once, I will explain. I had over 2,000 galleries that I wanted Falcon to write posts for. This order was the first 200 of them. They were supplied in an excel sheet in which there was a column titled Notes under which I wrote POST REQUIRED. I then sent this with a mail, in which I clearly explained that only the posts with note; POST REQUIRED should be written.

Oh yes, and there was no sorting required as it was the first 20 posts of each sheet.

Is that really so difficult?

Good luck with your posts, iameros.

In what way did I get the product and money back. Yes I got my deposit back and I got 20 posts I ordered, 85 which I didn't.

There seems to be a general misconception on this thread that I got all the work and my money. This is not the case, I got 20 posts I ordered and my money back for those. What I didn't get was the additional posts promised to me.

What's also really funny is how people keep saying, you're lucky, most would not have refunded you, etc, etc. So what we are saying is that most providers on this board or in this industry are rip off merchants and so we should count ourselves lucky.

As I explained in the restaraunt analogy if the owner promised you compenation in the form of a dessert and then did not deliver that and told you so in rude and off handed way, would you say, "Oh jeez, well I should be lucky I got some of my meal for free" and be grateful. BULLSHIT! You wouldn't do that because you hold that industry up to a certian standard.

Why should't AC be held up to that standard as well? If we don't hold providers in this industry up to the same standard as we hold providers in other industries how do you ever expect to improve things.

Thank you

Much more difficult then if you had only sent the 200 galleries that you wanted done. If there had only been those 200 there would have been no chance of the wrong galleries getting picked.

But then again, you would have had to do work to prepare properly then.

Much better to throw that work at someone who you didn't pay to do it.

You paid for writing, not going through multiple page spreadsheet lists.

So, let's see. You say you got 20 posts you ordered and 85 you didn't. But yet you also indicate that you planned to have them do all 2000. So it is hardly like the 85 that you didn't order are unusable.

I think you just want to whine.

You're right maybe I'm overestimating the ability of providers to follow more than very basic instructions. I'll be sure to bear that in mind in future.

Did I ask the provder to note down which posts he should write. No, I asked him to write the posts that I had marked for writing. Very tricky stuff :Oh crap

Of course they are not unusable otherwise why would I have been annoyed that I didn't get the other 105.

You think I like to whine. I think you like to argue.

Interesting how none of AC's defenders respond back to specific questions I ask such as the one about standards (above) but rather find it more rewarding to you accuse me of whining and calling me stupid and idiotic. When the opportunity for serious debate presents itself, name calling is the recourse of the ignorant.

No response Falcon? Mmmm, I wonder why....?

Please explain how I've threatened you on this thread? I promise that if you can point that out I won't post in this thread anymore. If you can't then be a man and admit that you've once again made a mistake?

you failed at the internets

That doesn't make any sense

Just wanted to say John is a solid guy. I've worked with him before and he always seems to have good, productive and honest countermeasures.

As a writer myself, I feel what John offered was fair. To the OP, treat this as a learning experience and if John has wronged you so bad, just don't order from him again. I think most people have and will agree that what he offered was fair.

Good luck with this situation.

iameros : you are making an issue out of the blue.

Ok, he screwed up, he admitted it, refunded your money and gave you 105 USABLE posts for free. So what is the point of this whole thread?

Are you mad because he didnt give you 100 more posts for free?
Are you mad because you wasted 3 weeks of time?
Are you mad because now you have to look for another writer?

The way this whole looks, youre a pathetic guy who creates drama posts for not getting some more free work, which is idiotic.

I would understand your position, if, and only if : you were willing to go on with the deal and have him finish the whole 2000 galleries for you and was told to fuck off. This is the only way I would understand your actions. You had a deal for 2000, he screwed up the first batch and refused to go on with the deal... that would make me upset, yes.

But if thats not the case, youre a crybaby begging for some more free shit.

when will the madness stop

He isn't talking to me, or didn't you notice that? Keep bumping this thread with your pathetic attempts at reasoning, it's just more good publicity for me, and you just continue making yourself look like an ass.

You really just do not get it. It doesn't matter how simple it was, or more accurately, how simple you thought it was. It is a matter of responsibility.

You paid a certain amount per post. I am sure a writer bases their cost per post on how long it takes to write a post. That time does not include navigating a list with "special instructions". It does not include checking an additional column to see if this is one they should be working on. It does not include deciphering a client's "crystal clear" and "simple" instructions.

So, it does not matter how simple you think it is.

It would have been just as simple or more so for you to cut and paste the galleries you wanted into one comprehensive list that did not include any room for error into a spreadsheet, word doc, text file, email, or whatever preferred format the provider has.

But then you would have had to do additional work and the responsibility for ensuring that the right galleries were worked on would be on you (where it properly belongs).

Much easier to shift that stuff off onto the provider and expect them to to go out of the way for you.

Because nobody has yet come in here and said they had a problem.

Nothing I enjoy better than a "writer" who doesn't know the difference between your and you're.

Classic stupidity. And I love how everyone jumps in and lays claim to a piece of Falcon's asshole with their tongue even though he stated to the guy he'd give the rest for free.

He made the promise, he broke the promise. From a business standpoint he is in the wrong. Then on top of that he didn't even bother to let the guy know he changed his mind?

Yeah, that is one standup, top notch, brotastic guy right there. :upsidedow

#1 - If I were to send in an order and I wanted certain posts before others, I'd order the FHG's in the order in which I wished to receive them.

#2 - Never heard of these guys until now. I just put in a request for 200 myself. Who knows, maybe I can get half of them for free?

#3 - If I was really seriously wanting them in a certain order, I would have only sent that half. Then in three weeks, sent the other half.

Just responded to your email.

Exactly. It reallly is quite classic isn't it. The provider fucks up, the provider makes a promise, the provider doesn't deliver on his promise but the customer is wrong. You have to laugh at the absurdity.

Just started reading this thread and this was my exact thought! This Falcon chap has not once denied offering him the remainder of the work for free, he has not once denied having written the email that was presented on the first page where he says he will give this guy the rest of the work for free so pray tell, why is everyone posting in this thread seeing it differently from me. Falcon has reneged and this is precisely what the OP is upset about. Does getting his money back and a few posts (which incidentally he got because there's not really any way for Falcon to have taken them back after he's sent them) automatically mean the OP is an idiot or greedy for having a "reasonable" (key word here) doubt as to Falcon's credibility AFTER Falcon made a commitment that he did not honour? I think not and any of you that feel differently have blinkers on.

I believe it was Falcon himself that wanted to "expand on the restaurant analogy" and the OP did well to bring that into the proper context so I don't need to. Looking at this situation based on the provided analogy will perhaps make more of you see this situation more clearly regardless of whether you have had great dealings with Falcon for years.

I don't know either party but sometimes it's important to point out FACT from FICTION even if it means flying in the face of popular opinion and making a few people upset. The fact is that Falcon reneged and as long as he does not dispute this fact (he hasn't for 3 pages so far) then regardless of other facts, I feel the OP is not being unreasonable.

The point is not that he made a mistake. I accepted that. The point here is that he didn't keep is work on how he was going to make good.

You know what's really ironic. When Falcon first contacted me back he didn't offer me the free posts, just a refund and I accepted that. In fact this is the mail I sent back to him;

Then he emailed me back and said this

A week later I have not heard back from him. When I do contact him. His opening line was "i've changed my mind".

This is the issue. John went back on his word and didn't even think to let me know.
I hope that this clears it up for some of the posters here who keep thinking that the issue has to do with the incorrect posts being writting. Sure that was annoying but it's not the issue.

Absolutely falcon fucked up and supposed to keep his promise. But to be this greedy about it. :error

I appreciate your comments and am very pleased to see that there are people on this board who can clearly see that the provider did not stick to his word.

I was going to send him the complete work, but when he starting making threats about trying to ruin me on GFY I considered the matter closed.Even though I paid him back every single penny he still made threats about contacting his lawyer. Besides, he had already gotten all his money back and then some, plus half the work for free. If I indeed messed up the order and did the wrong posts, then why would he want the remaining posts, especially if they were useless to him? At that point it just felt very shady and perhaps I was being taken advantage of. I tried to resolve this offline, but this guy wanted to bring it here.

So J Falcon admitted his companies mistake, promptly refunded ALL money, allowed you to keep what was usable at no charge. Right?

Shut the fuck up and move on. You were treated more than fairly as far as business disagreements go.


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Hi MoreMagic,

You're missing the point mate. The OP is not disgruntled about Falcon messing up the order (or whatever it was), he is in fact upset that after messing up Falcon made promises.
1. Promise to refund you your money
2. Promise to let you keep the posts I have already sent you
3. Promise to finish and deliver to you the posts that are remaining

The OP did not ask for ALL of these promises; these were made by Falcon as a means of rectifying his own mistake.

Falcon then decides to change his mind about promise #3 but DOES NOT convery his change of heart to the OP. When the original poster asks about it he is met with abuse (allegedly).

The OP is upset (not greedy) that Falcon changed his mind about a promise and instead of contacting him to let him know he waited till the OP contacted him and was then belligerent (allegedly).

Be very careful now Falcon as you're outright lying. I wil post one by one our comments from ICQ. I never started threatening you until you told me that you had changed your mind. When you started calling me a piece of shit, I warned you with legal action.

Also, I DID NOT GET HALF THE WORK FOR FREE, I got 20 posts I ordered for free. Of course I could use the others, I've never disputed that.

You did not try resolve this offline, you resorted to abuse. How does that resolve things.

Now that you're bullshiting, your true colors are starting to show.

All the 'he said, she said' aside, if you'd just followed through on your original offer, he would have absolutely no leg to stand on, and nobody would have listened to him. Nobody gives a shit that you made a mistake. We ALL make mistakes. You're entitled to make them like everyone else.

As it sounds now, it makes you look like a guy who will fly off the handle and not follow through on promises if you don't see eye to eye and get in to an argument with a customer.

Just my two cents is all.