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Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 10:37 AM

Just for the Record.
 
We have not cut off paying our affiliates. If you don't have Facts, please don't accuse us of it. As most of you know, you can get banned for it.

Get your facts right.

Ethersync 12-15-2010 10:45 AM

Well, get your story straight.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17775570)
Well, get your story straight.

email me your account number.

LeRoy 12-15-2010 10:55 AM

Some people are putting you on their scammers list already.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeRoy (Post 17775602)
Some people are putting you on their scammers list already.

I've been called worse things.

LeRoy 12-15-2010 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775612)
I've been called worse things.

Yah you'll be ok

Ethersync 12-15-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775599)
email me your account number.

After all your threats to me? I think I'll pass...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17771804)
I hope you Die in your sleep tonight bitch.

And for the record:

First...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17771752)
We HAVE NOT cut off paying everyone. We have cut off a few webmasters, (Not that many) due to the fact of abusing our system.

Then...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17772709)
We don't owe that many people much money, its very little. Maybe a handful. It's people that have not updated their sites in years...

Now...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775556)
If you don't know the facts, please stay out of it. We never stopped paying our affiliates.


BlackCrayon 12-15-2010 11:08 AM

bad times at cyberage high

will76 12-15-2010 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775553)
We have not cut off paying our affiliates. If you don't have Facts, please don't accuse us of it. As most of you know, you can get banned for it.

Get your facts right.

Dave are you ok??

Besides the several people posting here saying that they either haven't been paid, can't log into their accounts, etc... YOU posted the following explanation of why YOU weren't paying some affiliates:

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17772709)
We don't owe that many people much money, its very little. Maybe a handful. It's people that have not updated their sites in years, most of them have dead links and never cared to update their sites and they make our links pages look bad. We have paid out Millions without having to make a sale. The free ride is over and we are focusing on webmasters that are keeping their sites updated, making new sales every month and dedicated on using our services.

Why did you change your sig? You also said the decission to not pay some people was your partners and not yours. Are you part of the company or not ? Did you get fired ?

96ukssob 12-15-2010 11:10 AM

congrats to the winners :thumbsup

dropped9 12-15-2010 11:16 AM

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fatfoo 12-15-2010 11:18 AM

Good luck getting the evidence that you need.

u-Bob 12-15-2010 11:18 AM

Dave,

Just for the record, we have never done business, but based on the recent threads (started both by others and yourself), your posts about cutting of people "that have not updated their sites in years" and the almost aggressive tone of your posts in response to what every webmaster who is serious about his business would consider valid questions I doubt I'll ever do business with you in the future.

</constructive criticism>

kristin 12-15-2010 11:18 AM

I think some of us are just a bit confused by your statements as they somewhat contradict each other.

Will you still be the contact at Tri-Tech/Cyberage?

Evil Chris 12-15-2010 11:19 AM

I better get caught up on this one.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ethersync (Post 17775641)
After all your threats to me? I think I'll pass...



And for the record:

First...



Then...



Now...

Just wanted to keep you on your feet
I already know who you are.

signupdamnit 12-15-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775553)
We have not cut off paying our affiliates. If you don't have Facts, please don't accuse us of it. As most of you know, you can get banned for it.

Get your facts right.

http://www.gfy.com/17770844-post1.html
http://www.gfy.com/17770894-post12.html
http://www.gfy.com/17770923-post15.html
http://www.gfy.com/17507105-post1.html
http://www.gfy.com/17515312-post7.html
http://www.gfy.com/17627311-post11.html
http://www.gfy.com/17765685-post16.html
http://www.gfy.com/17663481-post1.html
http://www.gfy.com/17765690-post12.html

But if you mean that you are going to pay (or already have) all these people as well as anyone else having issues then I say that's great news and think you should be applauded for making the right decision in the end. Can you confirm you will pay everyone now?

Phoenix 12-15-2010 11:34 AM

interesting times...quality control is one thing

but if you owe them money...you owe them money

cut them off is up to you...but i think you need to pay them out

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17775734)
http://www.gfy.com/17770844-post1.html
http://www.gfy.com/17770894-post12.html
http://www.gfy.com/17770923-post15.html
http://www.gfy.com/17507105-post1.html
http://www.gfy.com/17515312-post7.html
http://www.gfy.com/17627311-post11.html
http://www.gfy.com/17765685-post16.html
http://www.gfy.com/17663481-post1.html
http://www.gfy.com/17765690-post12.html

But if you mean that you are going to pay (or already have) all these people as well as anyone else having issues then I say that's great news and think you should be applauded for making the right decision in the end. Can you confirm you will pay everyone now?

We can't pay people that don't follow the terms by making sure their site is up and updated.

It's not that hard, if you have a dead URL, click edit and add a new one.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 17775744)
interesting times...quality control is one thing

but if you owe them money...you owe them money

cut them off is up to you...but i think you need to pay them out

Best thing every said. I agree, if they no longer want to put the effort into their sites.
They should tell us and we would pay them out.

quiet 12-15-2010 11:36 AM

just pay out EVERYONE you OWE money to, and be done with it. jesus.

signupdamnit 12-15-2010 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775745)
We can't pay people that don't follow the terms by making sure their site is up and updated.

It's not that hard, if you have a dead URL, click edit and add a new one.

Assuming this is true, why were they not informed of this? I mean aren't most of these people webmasters who have done business with you for many years? I see one or two claiming they actually spoke to people on the phone. The messages date back months. I'll give you some credit that I have seen reports that some people are being paid though.

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17775759)
Assuming this is true, why were they not informed of this? I mean aren't most of these people webmasters who have done business with you for many years? I see one or two claiming they actually spoke to people on the phone. The messages date back months. I'll give you some credit that I have seen reports that some people are being paid though.

We try, but after 10 years, people change their email addresses and there is no way of contacting them. No updates, no contact info and dead links. Why is that fair to us.

PornoMonster 12-15-2010 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775750)
Best thing every said. I agree, if they no longer want to put the effort into their sites.
They should tell us and we would pay them out.

Am I missing something?
You say these people have out dated sites, but are still making you money, and you wont pay them now?
You know how many sites / companies are going out of business these days, the amount of dead links on some affiliates network of servers would need a full time person to change dead links.
I do not know what your Business is, but this does NOT make sense to me.

Sites not in motion .... lol

signupdamnit 12-15-2010 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775766)
We try, but after 10 years, people change their email addresses and there is no way of contacting them. No updates, no contact info and dead links. Why is that fair to us.

But they called your staff on the phone. They sent e-mails. They posted here in some cases over and over again. And how does it work anyway? Do all their sites have to be dead or are you closing accounts and not paying for people who have hundreds of valid sites but one or two dead links? Come on, make this one right. Don't stiff people who have helped you build your business over the last decade. These webmasters faithfully promoted you under revshare terms. You're not like this, are you?

Roald 12-15-2010 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17775751)
just pay out EVERYONE you OWE money to, and be done with it. jesus.

but but but but what would be the fun in that?

:warning

~Ray 12-15-2010 11:57 AM

glad everyone got paid.

JFK 12-15-2010 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 17775697)
I better get caught up on this one.

better late than never:2 cents:

ottopottomouse 12-15-2010 11:58 AM

This is going to be one of those threads that I completely miss overnight and will be 9 pages by tomorrow :(

cherrylula 12-15-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quiet (Post 17775751)
just pay out EVERYONE you OWE money to, and be done with it. jesus.

yeah cause it's not that much money right? lol

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by signupdamnit (Post 17775781)
But they called your staff on the phone. They sent e-mails. They posted here in some cases over and over again. And how does it work anyway? Do all their sites have to be dead or are you closing accounts and not paying for people who have hundreds of valid sites but one or two dead links? Come on, make this one right. Don't stiff people who have helped you build your business over the last decade. These webmasters faithfully promoted you under revshare terms. You're not like this, are you?

Good questions..
All your sites need to be updated and working. If they are not, the staff will try and contact you. If you don't reply or we get a bounced email. Most likely you are one of the handfuls that got cut off.

cherrylula 12-15-2010 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775750)
Best thing every said. I agree, if they no longer want to put the effort into their sites.
They should tell us and we would pay them out.

So because they didn't "tell you," you decide to burn them and not pay you?... but you would have if they told you? lol

omg lol

Fat Panda 12-15-2010 12:02 PM

another death spiral

Semi-Retired-Dave 12-15-2010 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cherrylula (Post 17775846)
So because they didn't "tell you," you decide to burn them and not pay you?... but you would have if they told you? lol

omg lol

Can you say that again in English, sorry.

kristin 12-15-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775843)
Good questions..
All your sites need to be updated and working. If they are not, the staff will try and contact you. If you don't reply or we get a bounced email. Most likely you are one of the handfuls that got cut off.

Did you check the referring URLs or just the one the WM lists in the admin?

Bryan G 12-15-2010 12:05 PM

If you owe money just pay them already. The last two days it looks like you've lost the plot man.

quiet 12-15-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bryan G (Post 17775858)
If you owe money just pay them already. The last two days it looks like you've lost the plot man.

no doubt.

cherrylula 12-15-2010 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberAge-Dave (Post 17775851)
Can you say that again in English, sorry.

This doesn't involve me, but I sure am glad I didn't have my avs sites with you right now.

I'm sure a few bucks isn't much to you but it is to some and they'd like their money. This issue sounds really unprofessional and I'll leave it at that. Typical adult shady shit.

Happy Holidays to the weiners. :1orglaugh

Evil Chris 12-15-2010 12:07 PM

Hold on... if someone is owed money, that means they must have made sale(s) to justify a + figure in their payout column. If the site is, in fact, dead... or 404, they making a sale is impossible, right?

I will take any number of sales from anyone out there with old, out-dated sites and pages. If they still send joins, I'm good with that and will pay you.

cherrylula 12-15-2010 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evil Chris (Post 17775868)
Hold on... if someone is owed money, that means they must have made sale(s) to justify a + figure in their payout column. If the site is, in fact, dead... or 404, they making a sale is impossible, right?

I will take any number of sales from anyone out there with old, out-dated sites and pages. If they still send joins, I'm good with that and will pay you.

bingo! This about sums it up.


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