Court rules against Arizona immigration law
 

Court rules against Arizona immigration law
Justice Department filed suit to block law it says violates U.S. Constitution

SAN FRANCISCO ? A federal appeals court is refusing to lift a stay blocking major parts of a tough Arizona law targeting illegal immigrants from taking effect.

The 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday turned down an appeal filed by Gov. Jan Brewer. The governor asked them to lift an injunction imposed by a federal judge in Phoenix the day before the law was to take effect on July 29, 2010. The U.S Justice Department sued to block the law. It argued it violates the constitution because enforcing immigration law is a federal issue.

The case in the 9th Circuit is United States of America v. State of Arizona, 10-16645.

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You all had to know that shit would never hold up. :2 cents:

Yea had could it...... what court would agree with actually enforcing US immigration laws? Actually enforcing existing law would obviously be unconstitutional and racist...... etc. etc.

Hate to say I told ya so, but I told ya so.

These laws sound complicated. They are probably not against the laws of physics.

Why is this so difficult? Every time the police comes to my house they check my ID to confirm I am who I say I am. They do this any time I come into contact with them. If for any reason they believe a crime is being committed, they investigate further - Once they handcuffed my ass and searched my car with dogs looking for drugs, which was comical to me being as I'm so anti drug it's not funny.

They need to do this with everyone, period. Police should ID anyone they come into contact with. If they can't provide ID, there's a problem. Tourist? No problem - Let me see your passport and let me check it with customs to see when you entered the country.

Then again we need to have California stop handing out a driver's license to anyone with a pulse.

Fuck the police.

you have to show id if the police knock on your door and ask?

I'm sure lots of people would love that to be true. Fortunately, it's not.

ok.. if anyone does do this, please rethink your entire life

This doesn't surpirse me after those kids in Sacramento got kicked out of school for wearing an american flag on cinco de mayo

https://youtube.com/watch?v=IwX2yyuo4Tw

Fuck the illegal aliens, Fuck the politicians Fuck the federal judges

They were probably troublemakers, drug users, or packin' heat.

:2 cents:

There is generally no reason to produce ID for a cop, even if asked. If you are driving, you have to. If you are just at your house or walking down the street or a passenger in a car, you do not. Doing so opens you up to more trouble.

Why you should never talk to cops:

we can still call in and have them arrested fuck the feds

not sure about all states but this is pretty simple. In Florida if a cop asks for your ID and you refuse he will arrest you for " Failure to obey a Lawful command " Now your dumb ass goes to jail and they will make sure to fuck with you as much as they can.

Florida is the only place I've ever heard of such nonsense happening. Good thing I don't live in Florida. I would not be complying with such Gestapo bullshit like that.

Most likely its the same in most states. Cali usually has almost 100% the same laws as FL.

I see that law right up there with the " Knew or Should have known" law.

But at the same time I also understand why they are on the books.

justice is bent to the needs. there is no true justice.

I would have gone one step further on that.

" Justice is bent to the needs and Desires of those who can bend it. "

Since I carry a gun, I am required by law to always have my conceal carry permit on me whenever I leave my house. When I drive my car I am required to have my license on me as well.

Truth be told 2 times in the past year I left my wallet at home when I drove away from my house. It happens.

If my friend came over to pick me up for a beer and a BBQ at his or her house, I may not have my license on me. Should I have to present ID willy nilly? NO WAY.

The catch 22 is do you think it's really fair that while on vacation you might get stopped dozens of times to show id while doing nothing wrong? At what point does it go from protecting the law to harassment? Same goes for a natural born citizen of Mexican decent. Is it really fair that in the course of 1 day you might get stopped 10 times just to constantly prove your legal? I'm sure at some point it would get very annoying.

I'm not saying I'm for or against this law. I'm just saying I can find issues on both sides.

No, they just had the Gall to wave an American flag on American soil on a MEXICAN holiday

Fuck those people

Anyone that walks around waving a flag is someone I keep my eye on anyway. They're usually one kind of nut or another.

National ID card tied into biometrics that can be scanned by any cop without you having to have a card woudl be awesome to eliminate identity theft, illegals, find fugitives etc.

well said

Two words....

Fuck that.

It's just the fact they were sent home for waving an american flag on their t shirt because latinos complained

were people complaining or was it more of a 'we're afraid people will complain' type scenario?

that story is really sad to me.. one of the best parts about celebrations in vancouver, seeing people with flags from all over the world just makes the party that much better

those are used in dogs. no thanx

Generally speaking yes. Usually they get called over here because someone set off the home alarm. Once they came blazing in - in force - because someone called in a domestic disturbance... I guess they thought I was smacking down my wife or something which was funny because we were dead asleep.

I've got nothing to hide from anyone and the local cops are more than welcome in my house.

I have nothing to hide either, but that doesn't mean I'm rolling out the red carpet for the cops.

They aren't going to be pulling people over because they are Hispanic. In California and Arizona, and other states, that's a huge percentage of the population. They physically can't do that. It's like trying to pull over everyone for speeding.

But if your in an area where day laborers hang out looking for work, yeah, they should be able to roll up and ask for ID. It's no different than pulling over a car that's circled the block in an area well known for hookers.

When I was a kid I swore up and down that cops targeted "us kids" and pulled us over constantly. Now that I'm an adult I see why - They weren't pulling me over because I was a kid, they were pulling me over because I was driving like a fucking idiot and I just too stupid to see it. It's not much different with this law. They aren't going to be pulling people over because they are Hispanic, but instead because there are a number of things that look suspicious.

I guess I must not understand English as well as I had thought.
As I read the article the judge only denied the state's appeal to have the injunction against parts of the law lifted, not an actual ruling on the constitutionality of the law itself.
It still has to work it's way through the legal system and could still be upheld.

That headline is just a touch misleading :winkwink:

I guess Fox News isn't the only one to slant the stories :upsidedow

Well not any more... 9th Circuit laid the smack down.

i love this video

funny how they target the wrong people for both crimes.

You are not entirely correct in the matter of ID. In most states a police officer may utter or issue what is known as a "lawful order" and may well order you to produce identification. If you fail to follow the lawful order, the dirtbag cop can and most likley will arrest you, charging you with failure to obey a lawful order and then you get to fight it out in court.

You are right on this one though, if you are questioned or arrested, keep your fucking mouth shut beyond demanding an attorney.

This action will spell the end of the Reign of Terror of The Obamanation.

A bunch of liberal hippie faggots are against it.

Apparently the constitutional rights of illegal criminals who don't pay taxes, traffic drugs, murder innocent people, crash cars without driver's licenses or car insurance and refuse to learn English is a travesty.

Pullover Pablo, he can't speak English, he doesn't have a driver's license, doesn't have insurance, doesn't have registration; yup, asking his immigration status would just be so fucking unspeakable.

Fucking liberal idiots.

http://www.stopthecarnivore.com/wp-c...pies-sign1.jpg

Until the US Supreme Court here the case it's not over for either side.