Why do tube sites get so much se traffic?
 

was wondering, why do tube sites get so much se traffic? They don't seem to have much unique text content on each post, like every one says you should have to rank well.

don't listen to "everyone"

Google wants to give the people what the people want when they search, the typical person searching with google likes the tube sites :2 cents:

inbound links, +1's, etc..

Capitalizing on other peoples content and keywords. Retension and frequency of updates.

Exactly.

I love all the theories however. :1orglaugh

bounce rate, links, regular updates, user interaction.. there are a bunch of reasons.

google gives the user what he wants...

Because payouts for a single sign up are so high.

Think about it, before flaming me.

people love it and so google gives them what people want.

Because google runs the biggest tube of them all.........

I heard that google has a lot of editors. May be they take care that the search results show those tubes.

Because most people recognize a link to a tube site (link to a free porn video) and click that.

Seriously, what the hell does that have to do with the thread? Both tube and non-tube sites are promoting the same thing (product with a high affiliate payout).

You are troll status for sure. And I guess I fell for it.

i will be more happy to know whats going on with google lately, i see quality sites falling down and pages with viruses and popups and redirects and no information value are going to first page ... google is crazy last few weeks at least for me ... :2 cents: wish you best with your business everyeone! :thumbsup

I agree, I've been noticing a lot of top rankings leading to pages with Google warning (This site may be harmful to your computer! Etc..), even legit corporate type sites.

I must turn www.perfect-nude.com to rube. Need to do it ASAP
let me know who want to give us content for it?

who cares about text content this days, its not all about text today mate

i think seo traffic is about text :winkwink:

Basically It is yes, It doesn't have to be much text though...

FREE PORN

Mr. Romance

No just someone who can't think outside the box.

The only reason Porn Tubes exist is the amount of money paid on a join. If this industry was paying say 10% on a join. Would Tubes be able to exist without hosting supplied by sponsors?

This side of porn spent a lot of money to build a barrier between the customer and the seller. Take away that money and the barrier collapses. Then the customer has less to distract him from the places to but and no places, well very few, to get off for free.

When people who built the barrier start to complain about the barrier being a problem and still don't think they fucked up, then there's a real problem.


I don't think like so many of you, I think beyond the box.

The amount of money tube sites make off of paysite sales is TINY compared to the amount of money they make from ad buys, dating and cams. I know this for 100% fact Paul. So no, the amount of money they are making from "sales" is not the reason they always rank Page 1. The above mentioned reasons are a big part of it but I believe (unproven and unproveable so no names) some of these tubes - shock! - payoff Google for their results. I'm talking $xxx,xxx+.

Shocking, I know. :D

Tubes don't have to pay google any money.


Example :

Millions of surfers go to google and type in free porn and then page thru the links until
they find pornhub and then they click.

So google sees 1 million clicks for pornhub and 200 clicks for the other links.
How does it not make sense for google to go ahead and list pornhub number 1,
when it's a fact already that it is number one by surfer demand?

I go to google and type in a search and then look for the wikipedia link all the
time. People are doing this with porn also.


Think about it like this :

You have 5 banners on your web page and 1000 surfers click the 3rd banner while
only 200 clicks combined came from the other 4 banners.
Aren't you going to move that 3rd banner up to the top to see if it gets 1500
clicks?

And if the top banner only got 5 out of the combined 200 clicks, aren't you going to
remove that banner and try something else?

Google is doing just that with links.
Why keep a link at number one when nobody is clicking it?

no mistery here ... how started the trend of tubes!? whos got it now!? and what do average joes want!?

youtube ... google ... free porn

see the connection!?

It's just the algorithm. Although long ago apparently some tubes sites paid a lot of money to various people to do seo work for them which involved buying hard links in order to rank well for "porn". Technically this should have probably resulted in them being de-listed (along with most of the people here) by Google for trying to manipulate the ranks using such techniques but good luck with that. Now they really are what most people are searching for when they type porn. No mystery why pay site sales are falling.

Nut shell

do not forget that not all tubes will get such good google se.

the 5 main ones got there as they were new, and people posted about them.

in fact they talk about them on tv a lot. so they have been getting a lot of free publicity.

it was only last week on a bbc 1 prime time spot, a comedian chatted about youporn (i think that was the site). you get that much publicity, you get a lot of hits.

so then people post about the sites on forums and blogs.

i see each day on forums people posting to the vids on these tube sites.

so yes this will help google ranking.

also the content updates quick and most tube sites will have an rss feed, and they tend to have lots of text too.

and peopler keep going back. plus people spend time on these sites.

although, to be honest i am suprised that they do not do better in google.

for instance type a pornstars name in google. somtimes you will not see any google links to any tube site. while the tubs have lots of vids of her. so there se stuff is still lacking. its not yet as good as say wiki.

Shut the fuck up already. So if we made 10% of what we do now we would be better off. Right..

Still has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. Troll.

large amount if quality inbound links. all the top tube networks have full time seo's building links all day every day.

Google makes it harder and harder by day for copyright owners to remove infringing links from search results and from their other properties like blogspot. All under the guise of "improvements" and "making the process more streamlined for copyright holders", a bunch of criminals who simply LOVE profiting from copyright infringements.

They do not even accept e-mail DMCA notices anymore, and rolled out some fucked up webform instead where you have to submit links manually ONE BY ONE. That's some major "improvement" indeed, especially when you need to remove like 10K links from a site like blogspot that has become piracy heaven recently thanks for Google.

while stuff like bounce rates are factors. the simple fact is all the tubes in the top google spots have had very aggressive link building campaigns for years now. that is the basis of their rankings. the rest is just fine tuning.

A lot of it is because of their internal link structure. They link a lot of their pages together with "related videos" and whatnot which helps pass linkjuice from the front page. People also tend to link to tubesites a lot, but I really think it's more a factor of the number of pages and internal links.

Pornhub, for example, only has 2 million inbound links according to Yahoo. That's really not that many considering the amount of traffic the site gets. What they do have is 1.6 million internal pages that are all linked.

Actually, you have your head stuck deep inside a box.

Porn tubes exist because of the amount of money paid on joins?

Sounds like the onset of dementia to me.

Seek medical help, Paul.

Because they go to google, hit videos and blowjob and they end up at a tube site

I noticed the tubes getting more seo traffic once google bought youtube :2 cents: Smart actually... get people used to watching streaming videos on their computer when they are horny (including obtaining the broadband internet required) and they will be more apt to watch streaming videos even when they aren't horny:2 cents:

google really doesnt give a fuck about what happens with the businesses & industries beyond their site... as long as they give their surfers what they are searching for...

for instance, search for a blockbuster movie by name and add "torrent" at the end of your search... you will get a whole different set of results just by adding the word torrent...if the movie is out on dvd then google will serve up the freshest hottest links to the blockbuster movie just waiting to be downloaded for free... they are making bank on all that traffic and there is nothing anyone can do about it. :helpme

when it comes to porn searches it's as if google adds "tube" at the end of every porn search performed on their site. Bastards!

No It's the cheap hosting....no It's the tube scripts....no It's the streaming format....no It's It's It's the Internet that caused this... It's all Al Gores fault!

YOUTUBE
YOUTUBE
YOUTUBE

Google is the king, the undefeated champ, the ring master, THE tube.

Get over it.

you can blame the copyright holders who DMCA'ed away fair use parodies,commentaries etc away using automated email forms.

That one transaction at a time, clearly establishes the liability for those "mistakes"

It's easy.... you never hear people talk about "avg time on the site". The fact that tube sites have tons of videos, people can easily spend 10,20,30+ minutes on the site, where as other types of sites they bounce away pretty quick. In my experience google puts a lot of weight on this, which it makes sense. If someone averages 10 seconds on your site or 10 minutes, which one would you rank as more popular / useful to people.

They also generate thousands of pages (each video is it's own page) with good meta tags and search terms.

Then there is the fact that they get a lot of traffic, another variable that in my opinion google puts a lot of weight, which is also common sense. If 1,000,000 or 1,000 people go to a site each day which one do you think is more popular / useful / legit etc.

Then there is bookmarks and people using the code to put these videos on their own sites that produce links back to the tube.

There is probably 20 good reasons that people could point to why tube sites do really well in the SE.

Paul there is a barrier between your brain and common sense. It's called the great wall of china. :2 cents: