Is flash dead?
 

Is it still worth using flash, or should I use html5?

I hate flash...

YES...FLASH....IS DEAD

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Flash is absolutely dead. Adobe has officially stated they are no longer developing it as a matter of fact. HTML5 + JS is where it's at now. :2 cents:

I really liked flash for certain things. If you use it now you basically are saying you don't give a shit about all those people using iphones and ipads.

Is html5 hard to learn? I don't even know where to begin.

Flash is very alive... My surfers love it. Especially Android ones which out number iPhones anyway.

I never gave two shits about broke ass people with 800x600 screen resolutions that made up 5% of my traffic and 1% of my sales.

I don't give two shits about iPhone morons that make up 3% of my traffic even if they were going to bring in 5% more sales. They would have created 100% more work to worry about their dumb asses.

This is what totally shows that Adobe is stupid as fuck. Back when they bought out Macromedia and they took over Shockwave, they essentially killed it and stopped any meaningful development with it, because it was competition to Flash.

At the time Shockwave pretty much owned the browser based games market. Added to this Shockwave supported 3d in the web browser probably 6 to 8 years ago if not longer. Despite this Abobe killed Shockwave and said Flash will be the new king.

Meanwhile Adobe didn't really cater Flash to browser based games and pretty much ignored that market letting developers make due with what little tools they had. In comes 3rd party software developers just in time to see games starting to show up on smart phones and gain popularity in the browser market.

Meanwhile Adobe being dumb as fuck totally drops the ball on a upcoming market that they essentially were handed had they put any focus at all on it. Now Flash is dead and they are shit out of luck and completely dropped the ball on being top dog for both smart phone & browser based game development.

Flashnutters

for me flash is still not dead.
As long as there is people that uses it, it's not dead.

Flash was already pretty much dead when macro. sold to Adobe. Flash is useful yes, but not as useful as other viable technologies. Flash has been dying for the past 5 years at least. HTML5 technologies along with JavaScript have killed it officially. It is no longer useful. ...coming from a CTO. :2 cents:

I will believe that flash is no longer useful when youtube gets rid of their flash video
player. There must be a reason they still use it because I'm sure they can hire a
programmer to write HTML5.

They've had the option to switch to HTML5 for some time.
youtube.com/html5

Older browsers are preventing the shift.

Macromedia decided to make Flash their primary focus and abandon SHockwave. That was when Flash went from being a motion graphics and web design application to being as much or more of a coding/development/game building engine. Then came Flash video.

At this stage, most pay site owners having the Elevated X CMS installed are not offering Flash as a video format, it's dead in this regard. Things are moving towards HTML5/MP4 as a universal combo.

Yeah, everybody knows it's been there a while and that speaks volumes that it
ain't being used after being there that long.

mobile is the future. apple doesnt support flash. use html5.

oh btw since flash is dead for most of you ?
who coded in flash in the past ?

lol - really?

I still code in flash.

From a programming point of view flash is very useful, it just needs a platform
that plays it.

iPhone and iPad traffic is fully irrelevant these days.

except that flash has been discontinued for Android as well for quite some time now

What is this flash thing you guys talk about?

On GFY half the ads don't show up...LOL

Flash is still used...

Mobile is thriving, and recently I bought 2 new mobile devices. My girlfriend got a galaxy tab 2 and I got a droid dna, neither had flash. Guess what... it was not downloadable in the market either. I had to find an old apk download and transfer it to my devices. Then there is apple users. Sadly the iPhone is still a hot seller.

everyone would like flash to be dead, but 90% of the mainstream advertising flowing through our system is flash.

I think this is more about 'flash' as a means to stream video. With device targeting flash adds are still the best at getting a click.

You can do everything with HTML5 that you can with flash. :)

Not dead, yet.

you saw that too huh Mitch? :1orglaugh:1orglaugh


Hey vvvvvv .... feel free to 301 redirect any of your iOS traffic to me ... I'll take it off your hands. :thumbsup

Not dead yet, but it's definitely dying.

flash is not dead, but in 10yrs it will probably go deep in the dark i guess

haha thanks for the link.. for some time i couldn't imagine why was that stupid youtube so damn slow in my browser (opera) and eventually it was html5, with flash it's a lot smoother :)

flash for video playing is still waaaay better then html5.

stuff evolves. you cant think back 10 years ago and talk shit about something that was revolutionary. Its what probably made html5 come to be.

indeed :thumbsup

It's worth starting to transition to html5 if you can but from what I understand html5 is a PITA still due to different browser implementations and you still have to use flash as a fallback or else you are going to leave a significant number of users out in the cold. So right there clearly you can see that it isn't dead. In fact it is necessary.

It will be dead within two or three years of the time when > 99% of users can use HTML5 video but we're not there yet. There are many webmaster utilities out there which only use flash for video so that's going to keep it around for longer yet. Then people still use it for ads and other displays. My best guess is 3 more years for video, 5 more years for other things. Then after that you will see under 75% of users with flash installed in their browsers.

It always amazes me how many people talk a lot of bullshit about this topic. "Flash is dead" is a twilight zone type comment at this point in time.

Is Flash dead? Ask the tube sites.

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Keep in mind there's a difference between the Flash Player and Flash video...:2 cents:

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