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wehateporn 10-27-2014 06:48 AM

UK Man Jailed for 'Hitler Was Right' Tweet
 

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...weet-labour-mp

An internet troll accused of sending an antisemitic message to Labour MP Luciana Berger has been sentenced to four weeks in prison at Merseyside magistrates court.

Garron Helm, 21, from Litherland, north of Liverpool, tweeted a picture of the MP with a Holocaust yellow star superimposed on her forehead, with the hashtag ?Hitler was right?. The tweet, which referred to Berger as a ??communist jewess?, read: ?You can always trust a Jew to show their true colours eventually.?

Helm send the tweet in the early hours of the morning on 7 August and claimed to have sent it in a state of anger and frustration. He pleaded guilty to sending an offensive, indecent or obscene message.

Berger, the MP for Liverpool Wavertree, said she hoped the jail term would deter would-be trolls. ?This sentence sends a clear message that hate crime is not tolerated in our country,? she said. ?I hope this case serves as an encouragement to others to report hate crime whenever it rears its ugly head.?

Continued http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2...weet-labour-mp

PR_Glen 10-27-2014 06:55 AM

instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

k0nr4d 10-27-2014 06:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

What if it was a nazi ww2 vet? :1orglaugh

MrTrollkien 10-27-2014 07:05 AM

Seems a bit excessive.
Having said that, someone was jailed for 18 times as long for stealing water in the riots so perhaps it's one of those 'exemplary sentences'.
Can we have some of those for law-breaking police, child abusing MPs and convicted journalists too?

oppoten 10-27-2014 07:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

Why would he do that?

It was meant for a jew, not a vet.

TeenCat 10-27-2014 07:12 AM

anyone who wrote that may be mentally ill and can be danger for the society, so it is good to have him locked and watch him for a while ... :2 cents:

stoka 10-27-2014 07:16 AM

i find some western european countries being highly hypocritical for being so touchy about nazi symbols and shit, yet harboring numerous east european nazi butchers after the war

Captain Kawaii 10-27-2014 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

Most vets of ww2 could not care less unless you are speaking of the 0.06% jewish people who served in the us military during the war. Say it to a holocaust survivor...that's your story.

CDSmith 10-27-2014 07:23 AM

The limey's don't screw around.

He's lucky he never got a public flogging as a bonus penalty.

k0nr4d 10-27-2014 07:31 AM

Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

pornmasta 10-27-2014 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stoka (Post 20267884)
i find some western european countries being highly hypocritical for being so touchy about nazi symbols and shit, yet harboring numerous east european nazi butchers after the war

The struggle is now easier since there is no more real nazis to fight...
You know it is so gratifying to be an antinazi, you could think that you have a spirit and a soul.

MrTrollkien 10-27-2014 07:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20267912)
Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

It is called double standard.

MaDalton 10-27-2014 07:58 AM

i'm ok with that

RummyBoy 10-27-2014 08:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20267912)
Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

Both the UK and the US going the same way.

Freedom lives on in your memory......

pornmasta 10-27-2014 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RummyBoy (Post 20267997)
Both the UK and the US going the same way.

Freedom lives on in your memory......

Can i be a communist in the 60"s ?

PR_Glen 10-27-2014 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii (Post 20267891)
Most vets of ww2 could not care less unless you are speaking of the 0.06% jewish people who served in the us military during the war. Say it to a holocaust survivor...that's your story.

yeah most vets wouldn't care about people saying hitler was right.. how can you be this wrong this often? how is it even possible. the law of averages should at least have you being right a few times here and there even by accident...

CaptainHowdy 10-27-2014 11:04 AM

Wasn't Hitler from the left??

DamageX 10-27-2014 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20267912)
Am I the only one that thinks that being jailed for anti-semetism is complete bullshit? Where's that freedom of speech everyone is always talking about? Why does that not apply?

You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

That depends on the country. Some will jail or fine you for hate mongering regardless of what ethnicity you direct it towards. Some will not give a shit regardless of what ethnicity you direct it towards.

But yeah, that freedom of speech sure as fuck seems to be selective in terms of what it applies to... :(

Jel 10-27-2014 11:10 AM

freedom of speech isn't a get out of jail free card for being a hateful vile cunt.

MrBottomTooth 10-27-2014 11:14 AM

I'm probably the only one that thinks you shouldn't be jailed for a tweet...EVER. Unless of course you are directly threatening someone's life or threatening some act of violence like a fake bomb threat, etc.

MaDalton 10-27-2014 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20268238)
Wasn't Hitler from the left??

only on paper

rogueteens 10-27-2014 11:18 AM

You don't often think of Jews as communist do you? Its normally the complete opposite - capitalists.

rogueteens 10-27-2014 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by k0nr4d (Post 20267912)
You can write whatever you want about blacks, muslims, whatever - but if you say a single bad word about jews you go to jail heh

Not in the UK, even Labour politicians can be racist (yes, you, Dianne) but only if you are racist towards the indigenous population. anything else is a hate crime worse than kiddy fiddling.

RummyBoy 10-27-2014 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth (Post 20268256)
I'm probably the only one that thinks you shouldn't be jailed for a tweet...EVER.

Fine....... leave it there. No interference and that's basically how it was from the days of CERN/JANET up until around 2000 (ish).

Freedom of speech is over.
Freedom of privacy is over.

Those were the main ones we had I guess....

Captain Kawaii 10-27-2014 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20268225)
yeah most vets wouldn't care about people saying hitler was right.. how can you be this wrong this often? how is it even possible. the law of averages should at least have you being right a few times here and there even by accident...

Lets face it you look at history with present day glasses. You are in fact, an imbecile. Americans did not want to enter into ww2. We were dragged in by Roosevelt who used the Japanese to pull us in. The history is there, you just don't want to face it so go suck a dick and shut the fuck up.

Maybe start a tube system that is worth more than nothing to affiliates.

A quick Ken Burns fact. More than 25% of American soldiers went into battle in Europe with unloaded weapons.
Americans knew about the camps for 3 years and did...................ZIP.

oppoten 10-27-2014 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rogueteens (Post 20268266)
You don't often think of Jews as communist do you? Its normally the complete opposite - capitalists.

Many of the Bolshevik leaders were Jewish, and many Germans thought that communism was Jewish.

I'm sure you already know that :)

420 10-27-2014 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20268238)
Wasn't Hitler from the left??

Nope, third right (reicht?).

Go to jail for talking shit on the internet. Har har welcome to earth.

MaDalton 10-27-2014 12:43 PM

ahh, jeez, so much lack of history knowledge...

CaptainHowdy 10-27-2014 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20268393)
Nope, third right (reicht?).

Reich = Reign/Empire ...

420 10-27-2014 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHowdy (Post 20268402)
Reich = Reign/Empire ...

yes but it almost sounds like right :)

shoot twice 10-27-2014 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet.

I completely agree.

Some Internet memes are harder to take than others. But Hitler's recent Internet popularity really makes me nauseous. It's always the same little arrogant punk that clicks away spouting off this shit from the safety of his home. It's about time these punks learn that they shouldn't say anything to someone on the Internet that they wouldn't be willing to say their face.

I vote they give the punks 2 years hard labor in a real jail with dangerous criminals in order to straighten them out.

Matt 26z 10-27-2014 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet.

What if you told an Iraq war vet that Saddam was right? How many would agree? I'll bet most of them now wonder what the point of that war was.

Not many people know the facts behind WW2. The brainwashing in the US and Europe has been pretty strong for decades.

Here is Hitler talking about the war in 1942 (and the only known recording of him using his natural voice). You won't see this material in any US or European history books:

pornmasta 10-27-2014 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shoot twice (Post 20268416)
I completely agree.

Some Internet memes are harder to take than others. But Hitler's recent Internet popularity really makes me nauseous. It's always the same little arrogant punk that clicks away spouting off this shit from the safety of his home. It's about time these punks learn that they shouldn't say anything to someone on the Internet that they wouldn't be willing to say their face.

I vote they give the punks 2 years hard labor in a real jail with dangerous criminals in order to straighten them out.



MaDalton 10-27-2014 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt 26z (Post 20268422)
What if you told an Iraq war vet that Saddam was right? How many would agree? I'll bet most of them now wonder what the point of that war was.

Not many people know the facts behind WW2. The brainwashing in the US and Europe has been pretty strong for decades.

Here is Hitler talking about the war in 1942 (and the only known recording of him using his natural voice). You won't see this material in any US or European history books:

i have seen this like 10 times on german TV and you are still a Nazi

pornmasta 10-27-2014 01:37 PM

this video is not available in my country ?
There must be something hidden...

420 10-27-2014 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornmasta (Post 20268452)
this video is not available in my country ?
There must be something hidden...

If you're in France its because they speak badly about les baguette magiques in the video.

If you're in Germany, well you know why it is not available.

rogueteens 10-27-2014 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oppoten (Post 20268362)
Many of the Bolshevik leaders were Jewish, and many Germans thought that communism was Jewish.

I'm sure you already know that :)

oh, I'm not saying that Jews cannot be communist, just that you don't often think of them that way.

rogueteens 10-27-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

having spoken to many ww2 veterans, I can tell you that the overwhelming majority told me that they thought it was all a waste of time. (talking from a UK perspective) they almost all felt that immigration and the EU/politicians had damaged the country much more than Hitler would have done.

Anthony 10-27-2014 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 20267860)
instead of tweeting it like a coward, he should have tried saying it in front of a ww2 vet. This story may have been a bit different.

Meh, Glen the average age of a WWII vet is 92. That is, if you can find one alive still.

pornmasta 10-27-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 420 (Post 20268463)
If you're in France its because they speak badly about les baguette magiques in the video.

If you're in Germany, well you know why it is not available.

i'm shocked !


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