NO Charges for Officer Eric Garner for Chokehold
 

"A Staten Island grand jury has voted not to bring criminal charges against the white New York City police officer at the center of the Eric Garner case, a person briefed on the matter said Wednesday.

The decision was reached on Wednesday after months of testimony including from the officer, Daniel Pantaleo, who used a chokehold to restrain Mr. Garner, who died after a confrontation."

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/04/ny...773522000&_r=2

WTF? How? It was all on video!

He didnt do anything wrong.... it took 6 guys to bring down that twit .... he should have listened to the pigs ...

He didnt comply and they took him down... end of story...

btw that shit was in a bad part of NYC and the fucking twit should have not resisted...

He was doing something illegal... and should have complied

b-i-n-g-o.

They should have beat him down to the ground with nightsticks and tazered the fuck out of him

Or shot him 49 times. Or ass raped with a plunger. :winkwink:

I believe that's 41 shots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1ka4oKu1jo

Things that make you go hmmmm.

Death Penalty: approved.

:Oh crap

you are stuck on stupid!! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh follow the story :disgust one day the police are going have some major issues. :2 cents::2 cents: you can't trust them.

The video seems to tell the real story here.

The fact that he can say, "I can't breathe" means he can breathe. You seem to be of the mindset that citizens can decide if they want to comply or not.

Obviously this was not their first run-in with the guy.

Why he didt want to get arest, he would be alive now :(

OK but then what does the fact that he died mean?

Cops can do ANYTHING they want.

Always the same cast of characters cheerleading on the sidelines every time the cops murder someone. Fucking pathetic.

A, you should live a life within the law.

B, when you are being arrested for not following A, don't resist.

I'm not saying cops should kill you. The thousands of arrests that happen everyday attest to the fact this doesn't happen. But when you resist arrest or assault a cop you are making a pretty stupid decision that can quickly get out of control.

I don't cheer. I shake my head and ask why the guy breaking the law doesn't just give up. Fuck, he's caught, go peacefully.

for me, the issue is the judicial system and society are structured to favor law enforcement. SInce that is the reality of the matter, and I don't necc. disagree, the first step here is body camera requirements for all cops. I don't know how it would be implemented at the state level, obviously state's rights trump fed law but I would like to see some way this is inacted in each and every state in this here fine union.

gofucvkyourself.

People seem to still miss the fact that while crime is continuing to decline, including gun and violent crimes, killings by police of civilians is UP. Why not comment on that for once instead of pretending that only people who deserve to die have been killed?

What this means is, in the past people didn't die at the hands of police as much as they do now. There is no evidence that they resist more either. They simply die more.

This cop was banned from using a chokehold, and he choked him instantly and basically killed him. No charges when he broke his own departments explicit ban. And the talk is about how the fat black guy deserved it because he didn't say yes sir or some other detail apparently required by some before they'll entertain the notion that cops did something wrong. Something that might be like murder.

Yes. I actually went and looked up the Springsteen song after the fact to double check. You are correct!

But thats racist in black community.

yep and post 911 police departments were given military equipment. watch the number of militias go up :2 cents::2 cents:

Is anybody watching the coverage of this? I'm struck by how much spin the talking heads are putting on the racial angle when it's obviously a police use-of-force issue.

All the commentators are emphasizing "... the killing of an unarmed BLACK man by a WHITE police officer..."

I guess a race war would be good for the "news" business. :winkwink:

Sure the dude was being a pain in the ass and running his mouth but it never seemed to me the police felt they were in danger or dealing with a dangerous person.

If a guy is running his mouth and not waving a gun there is no reason for a chokehold. Maybe a good bitch slap.

That was excessive force. People shouldn't be killed to subdue them if they are not violently resisting. It isn't that hard.

Use the minimum force necessary to arrest. Don't immediately kill or tase or whatever to "gain compliance".

If you or I did that, we'd be tried for murder. Police are no different. When you give a person a gun and the right to be an executioner, you want them to be MORE careful and be held to a higher standard.

You can't execute someone for something that might happen. He was not violently resisting. Here's how logic works: If he is violently resisting, going for the gun, etc, then deadly force may be justified.

But in this case with a WHITE MALE VICTIM and the Garner case it was NOT justified or necessary.

How would you go about cuffing him; or would you just let him go because he was bigger than you?

one cop for each arm, one to talk to him. cuff him, back up, tell him cool down this will be over soon but then I'm not a cop, never have been one.

That. The video can't be clearer and the morons still find a way to explain it away.

haha - How long do you give him to comply? An hour? Two? Enough time that you can finish the paperwork before your shift ends?

Really fagdog? So why did the guy die then?

Just because the guy didn't comply doesn't mean he should have been strangulated. If you think that's OK, you are borderline sociopathic and should be examined.

What takes more time and money - a little over time or a federal investigation? I saw 7 - 8 cops there, and a guy died. I'm guessing that took some paperwork.


What I would really do, in fantasyland, is say to him, hey, you tell me if anything worse than you is on this street, and we're cool. Lie to me, or get into anything worse than loose cigs, and I'll put you in for 6m. That probably doesn't work.

No, i would have murdered him, then read him his rights :disgust

I was went through a full felony stop once and it was an eye opener. Three cop cars, guns drawn, "walk back towards us". I knew I did nothing wrong, I knew I had nothing to hide, I knew I had to comply, and I knew I was going to eat some gravel and most likely get a knee in my back.

No matter what, you do not resist the police. Ever. If you do, you are going down, and it's going to hurt. It's just that simple.

They were not trying to kill him; they were trying to cuff him.

Well they failed and succeeded, well done to them :disgust

Funny, that song is probably why I was able to remember the number. I went to his concert at the garden when all the protesters where outside. Good times. I can't believe it's been 15 years. Time really flies.

The fact that he's dead means there might have been some truth in his assertion.

Cops go through training to deal with these situations. It was also against policy to use a chokehold. So, the cop should have done what was within policy that he learned at the academy.

Actually....... do some research. The use of choke holds is forbidden by the police dept he was working with.