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Two Aussies to be executed by firing squad in Indonesia
How much news coverage if any has this received in your part of the world? Also what slant has the media placed on it? For or against the executions?
Bali Nine execution: Death island ready for Chan and Sukumaran We are being bombarded with it over here, it is causing quite a stir amongst Australians. Bali Nine executions: Tony Abbott reminds Indonesia of $1b tsunami aid |
Getting shot dead is much better way to die than getting lethal injections.
Just my 2 Cents. |
This wasn't a first time offence for Chan & Sukamaran, they previously smuggled heroin from Bali to Australia successfully and also had another failed attempt because their courier didn't turn up. Third time they got caught.
There are signs all over the airports of Indonesia warning of the consequences of drug smuggling. I know the popular opinion is that these poor wretched men have reformed and one has found God, but if they weren't caught would they now be reformed or living in a big house with sports cars and the trappings of a drug funded life of crime ? I oppose the death penalty, most Australians do. However we can't dictate the laws of other countries. So I don't support our Government trying to intervene when we have hundreds of children locked up in detention centres in hell holes like Manus Island. It reeks of hypocrisy. |
Haven't heard a thing about it until GFY just now :thumbsup
But I do remember when living in Oz those 5 years hearing about the Bali nine constantly. |
i am against death penalty in general but it's not that they didn't know the risk, right?
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First I have heard of it.
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I think they should be executed in America because that is a civilised country.
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You guys should start reading and watching some alternative quality news sources like: The Guardian BBC News Al Jazeera etc |
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No one has said anything about them being innocent men, they have had this death penalty hanging over their heads for 10 years now. Do you honestly think that they have not done everything possible to become model prisoners? Actually forget it, I am not interested in your self righteous view point today, just stfu, I was interested in if OTHER parts of the world had heard about it. So please, go away. |
OK, first of all the term "executed" is the term meaning "legally murdered"
Nothing else. Please use the term murdered when reading these type of stories. Next - murdered for commerce? Trafficking drugs is nothing more and I hardly think that in this modern day and age human being are actually being murdered by a government for this act - really blows ones mind! Human being are worthless animals. |
hard lesson learned.
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Don't hate the player hate the game
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Everyone in Australia is crying for these drug smuggling criminals yet hundreds of kids being locked on remote prison islands in harsh conditions and subject to abuse is basically ignored.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politi...12-13b10a.html Sorry, I have much more sympathy for those kids locked up in detention than the delayed carrying out of a punishment for two drug smugglers in a foreign sovereign country. I really don't understand how the public can be swept up in emotion over these two guys yet not take to the streets to protect kids who are behind lock and key on a horrible remote detention centre on an island off Papua New Guinea at our own Government's choosing. |
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My main feed has news from France, Ukraine, Brazil, Pakistan, and.... There it is - Australia. Sorry, but what's news down under usually has little impact here. |
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i take from your posts in general here that compassion is not really your strong point but once you have children or friends that die from overdoses, i am not sure if you look the same way at the people that sold them the drugs... at least i don't see them as your friendly neighborhood merchants... |
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I really do not understand the mentality of people like you, wishing death on another. It is abhorrent behaviour IMO. |
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Who's crying for the young Australian's who overdose on heroin every week, the very substance these guys were trying to smuggle to Australia for the third time! Everyone knows that dealing in drugs in south east Asia is subject to really harsh punishment. I still have embedded in my mind the fate of people like Chambers & Barlow who were hanged for a similar offence. If you've been to Indonesia you will have seen the huge posters all over the airports warning of the penalties, these guys were stupid. Do they deserve to die for it ? No they don't but we can't dictate to foreign Governments how they deal with criminals in their own country. |
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*** Can be applied to every single application you wish, if you choose to lack empathy for anyone at all. We are not trying to dictate, Australians and the Govt have been asking for mercy to be shown, to look at what these guys have done to turn their lives around. Indonesia does exactly same thing for their people who are on death row around the world (for drug cases too....). There was a drug manufacturer who got off very lightly recently over there because he PAID the bribes. The President decided he would *solve* the drug problem and has blindly denied all pleas for clemency, he has not even sighted a thing about any of these men. I have very little hope for these two, I know what it is like to deal with these types of cultures and there is absolutely no changing of the minds here, very sad and I hope Australia does boycott bali for a long long time when these men are executed. |
They are HEROIN smugglers. I would feel for them if they were caught smuggling something that does not regularly kill its users. Saw the news on Yahoo.
Probably a good idea to avoid SE Asia for all your heroin smuggling activities. Better to partner up with the CIA and drop ship out of Afghanistan. :2 cents: |
Read a few articles here.
They got a trial, and were convicted of the crime . Sentences are in place accordingly to the crimes. I am against death penalty . But various countries have different laws . Learn to respect them or do not visit :2 cents::2 cents: |
The funny thing is that they were smuggling the heroin OUT of indonesia..
So the motivation that drugs kills so many indonesian and they need to face the death penalty because of that doesn't make much sense.. |
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Also getting play is that the Australian Gov't is hypocritical here because they never supported these guys until the last minute when it's too late. That and everyone knows the risk/reward of the game, yo. |
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People get angry for a day, lose interest, and move on to the next outrage. :2 cents: |
heard about it, also heard this isn't these guys first rodeo. Everyone and their dog knows one gets executed for drug running in these countries..
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I've heard and have seen news about the case over the years!
I have no sympathy, as they knew the risks that their actions had if caught. And not like it was their first time doing it! |
Better to avoid these third world countries.
"Afghanistan Bahamas Bangladesh Belarus Botswana China Cuba Egypt Guatemala India Indonesia Iran Iraq Japan Jordan North Korea South Korea Lebanon Malaysia Pakistan Russia Saudi Arabia Singapore Somalia Sri Lanka Suriname Syria Taiwan Tajikistan Thailand Tonga United Arab Emirates United States Vietnam Yemen" Capital punishment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia |
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Nine drug smugglers with priors, including 2 Australians, executed in Indonesia. It's back page news in the USA. I doubt 75% of Americans could find Indonesia on a map. |
the smugglers should man the fuck up and take the punishment with no bitch...they knew the risk and had no problem with it...crying mommy over a heroin smuggle gone wrong is like parents blaming dealers for their kids shooting up :1orglaugh
everybody knows the consequences of doing stupid shit... |
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I hope the two Aussies don't get death, however there are many countries with citizens on death row in Indonesia, I can't see them making exceptions. For the Americans what's makes this case complex is it was the Australian Police that tipped off the Indonesian police that a group of Aussies were bringing drugs into Australia, and asked if they could they arrest them, instead of waiting until they arrived in Australia. |
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