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XSAXS 05-18-2015 07:37 PM

QUESTION: What would you do if a well known Sponsor did this to you?
 
I realized over the weekend that a well known (and generally well regarded) sponsor owes me nearly $700. Haven't seen a payment from them in several months -- and since they're one of my low volume sponsors, they slipped off my radar.

So I politely contacted them and asked to be paid.

The rep responded and said that all affiliate accounts are now set at a minimum $1000 payout! :1orglaugh ...and then he promised that once I reach the new threshold I'll be paid.

(I fucking LOVE this fucking biz full of fucking lowlifes and scammers. :1orglaugh)

FWIW... My account says (and has always said) minimum payout $50.

So... What would YOU do?

[1] Pull the links and say fuck 'em?
[2] Continue to send traffic and hope they don't raise the minimum to $10,000?
[3] Run to GFY and smear their good name?

ruff 05-18-2015 07:39 PM

Pull the links and name them. Why not? They changed the rules without notifying you. Fuck em and feed em beans.

SBJ 05-18-2015 07:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruff (Post 20477491)
Pull the links and name them. Why not? They changed the rules without notifying you. Fuck em and feed em beans.

pretty much what I was thinking! :thumbsup

MetaMan 05-18-2015 07:40 PM

[4] Continue being a pussy. Ask other people advice on how to do my business. Dont mention any names because i need others approval because im not man enough. Wash my vagina hoping i grow a penis.

MrBottomTooth 05-18-2015 07:42 PM

That's absurd. Out them. If they have any shred of decency left they'll come in and explain it off as a " misunderstanding" and you'll get paid. (Then pull all links)

The Porn Nerd 05-18-2015 08:00 PM

$1000 minimum is fucking insane.

plaster 05-18-2015 08:41 PM

Out and collect. Only reason to raise min. To over $100 is to keep the majority of money as luquid cash in bank knowing they won't need to relieve themselves of that cash for some time to come. Also indicative of a program about to close shop.

XSAXS 05-18-2015 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20477496)
[4] Continue being a pussy. Ask other people advice on how to do my business. Dont mention any names because i need others approval because im not man enough. Wash my vagina hoping i grow a penis.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Awesome beat down. :thumbsup

Clearly I want to be paid. Right now. And I want to give these guys an opportunity to make it right. So I will withhold their name for now. We'll see how they choose to handle it.

Phoenix 05-18-2015 09:00 PM

This has happened to me many times, it is usually a sign of bad things to come. Not always but usually.

TheSquealer 05-18-2015 09:04 PM

I agree with MetaMan, the only clear choice is to ask a bunch of part timers, morons and degenerates how you should run your business. As well all know, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell and many other technology titans live and die by the questions they ask and the timeless advice they receieve on digital point, warrior forum and 4chan

ReggieDurango 05-18-2015 09:04 PM

Name names.
I don't want to sign-up to program that secretly raises their minimum payout to $1000 LOL

XSAXS 05-18-2015 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plaster (Post 20477524)
Out and collect. Only reason to raise min. To over $100 is to keep the majority of money as luquid cash in bank knowing they won't need to relieve themselves of that cash for some time to come. Also indicative of a program about to close shop.

No, they're not about to close shop. They've been around forever. And they have some interesting new-ish programs.

Evidently they just don't give a shit about keeping 'smaller' affiliates.

It's ultimately their loss though... I was planning to switch one of my largest cam sites over to their cam property. Fuck that idea now. :1orglaugh

Colmike9 05-18-2015 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477537)
No, they're not about to close shop. They've been around forever. And they have some interesting new-ish programs.

Evidently they just don't give a shit about keeping 'smaller' affiliates.

It's ultimately their loss though... I was planning to switch one of my largest cam sites over to their cam property. Fuck that idea now. :1orglaugh

So.. who is it?

kane 05-18-2015 09:25 PM

In all honesty, I guess it would depend. If it a sponsor that takes me a while to meet their minimum I would likely keep promoting until I had enough for a payout then try another and see if I had the same results, but could get paid more often.

If the sponsor was a good earner I would keep using them and just understand I won't be getting paid until I make $1,000. It sucks that they didn't tell you, but if they have otherwise been good, I wouldn't really care.

XSAXS 05-18-2015 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20477534)
I agree with MetaMan, the only clear choice is to ask a bunch of part timers, morons and degenerates how you should run your business. As well all know, Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steve Jobs, Michael Dell and many other technology titans live and die by the questions they ask and the timeless advice they receieve on digital point, warrior forum and 4chan

Hint: Perhaps this thread, and my thoughtful decision NOT to smear them publicly will incentivize them to do the right thing and pay me immediately.

xXXtesy10 05-18-2015 09:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20477496)
[4] Continue being a pussy. Ask other people advice on how to do my business. Dont mention any names because i need others approval because im not man enough. Wash my vagina hoping i grow a penis.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:thumbsup

ReggieDurango 05-18-2015 09:36 PM

Squealer - always so negative!

sandman! 05-18-2015 09:44 PM

out them!

TeenCat 05-18-2015 09:48 PM

great ... and because you hope that someone who is fucking you right now to the ass will pay you in future, other affiliates working for them are now sending sales to the scammers still ... great of you ... great to hear that there is some shit, but someone dont want to tell, because he thinks all will be solved when posting about unnamed sponsor on gfy ... oh, man ... wtf ... seriously ... tell, or fuck off and dont come to cry here ... :2 cents:

XSAXS 05-18-2015 09:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kane (Post 20477540)
In all honesty, I guess it would depend. If it a sponsor that takes me a while to meet their minimum I would likely keep promoting until I had enough for a payout then try another and see if I had the same results, but could get paid more often.

If the sponsor was a good earner I would keep using them and just understand I won't be getting paid until I make $1,000. It sucks that they didn't tell you, but if they have otherwise been good, I wouldn't really care.

This exactly. They have a pretty good reputation, and some high-conversion properties. And I would like to work with them, but if I can't trust them with small shit (like a reasonable minimum), there's no way I'll trust them with any real traffic.

plaster 05-18-2015 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477537)
No, they're not about to close shop. They've been around forever. And they have some interesting new-ish programs.

Evidently they just don't give a shit about keeping 'smaller' affiliates.

It's ultimately their loss though... I was planning to switch one of my largest cam sites over to their cam property. Fuck that idea now. :1orglaugh

You actually can't answer that question with any legitimacy. Those that close shop do suddenly and it surprises most.

So they have a cam platform... that limits the sponsor.

It's not datinggold, it's not videosecrets, it's not webcamwiz... who's left? Who is REALLY big... is it streamate?

XSAXS 05-18-2015 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20477554)
great ... and because you hope that someone who is fucking you right now to the ass will pay you in future, other affiliates working for them are now sending sales to the scammers still ... great of you ... great to hear that there is some shit, but someone dont want to tell, because he thinks all will be solved when posting about unnamed sponsor on gfy ... oh, man ... wtf ... seriously ... tell, or fuck off and dont come to cry here ... :2 cents:

I don't owe you anything, TeenCat. :321GFY

Truth is... if these guys are doing this to me, they will do it to others, and they will be exposed eventually.

TeenCat 05-18-2015 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477560)
I don't owe you anything, TeenCat. :321GFY

Truth is... if these guys are doing this to me, they will do it to others, and they will be exposed eventually.

but you are still giving the sponsor chance to collect even more money. they have raised limit from 50usd to 1000usd, and you are saying they are not going anywhere? how you can be that sure, if they are doing shitty things on the background? :2 cents: expose them and dont give them chance to steal more ... because this doesnt sound anything else than collect as much money as possible and run ... i would even bet, that if you make it to the 1000usd, you will have problems to collect the money anyway ... why to support someone who is playing shit with you? :2 cents: have luck anyway, right, you dont owe me nothing, but you could help others to not support a possible thieves ...

TeenCat 05-18-2015 10:06 PM

if someone wants to raise the limit to 1000, they have to pay what have been stated in tos when you signed up, so if they had 50 and decided to make it 1000, they have to pay everyone who is over the 50, and then make official statement that payouts are raised ... not like now, blocking who knows how much money ... this is bad :2 cents:

Markul 05-18-2015 11:10 PM

Name them. Quit being a sissy.

plaster 05-18-2015 11:26 PM

not cool to name someone that most would likely use knowing they are screwing people... and an up to $1000 payout is screwing everyone... name the company!

the Shemp 05-18-2015 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477489)
I realized over the weekend that a well known (and generally well regarded) sponsor owes me nearly $700. Haven't seen a payment from them in several months -- and since they're one of my low volume sponsors, they slipped off my radar.

So I politely contacted them and asked to be paid.

The rep responded and said that all affiliate accounts are now set at a minimum $1000 payout! :1orglaugh ...and then he promised that once I reach the new threshold I'll be paid.

(I fucking LOVE this fucking biz full of fucking lowlifes and scammers. :1orglaugh)

FWIW... My account says (and has always said) minimum payout $50.

So... What would YOU do?

[1] Pull the links and say fuck 'em?
[2] Continue to send traffic and hope they don't raise the minimum to $10,000?
[3] Run to GFY and smear their good name?

You should have made a post like this:

Did you hear that "XADULT COMPANY NAME" raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

XSAXS 05-18-2015 11:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20477566)
but you are still giving the sponsor chance to collect even more money. they have raised limit from 50usd to 1000usd, and you are saying they are not going anywhere? how you can be that sure, if they are doing shitty things on the background? expose them and dont give them chance to steal more ... because this doesnt sound anything else than collect as much money as possible and run ... i would even bet, that if you make it to the 1000usd, you will have problems to collect the money anyway ... why to support someone who is playing shit with you? have luck anyway, right, you dont owe me nothing, but you could help others to not support a possible thieves

No, I'm sure they aren't about to close down their network. When you hear who they are, you'll know.

They just don't care about keeping their smaller affiliates, which is a shame, because some bridges are better left unburned. :2 cents:

And yes, you're right. They have zero intention of paying me. Ever. Even when I hit the $1000 minimum. But we'll see if they change their minds...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeenCat (Post 20477566)
if someone wants to raise the limit to 1000, they have to pay what have been stated in tos when you signed up, so if they had 50 and decided to make it 1000, they have to pay everyone who is over the 50, and then make official statement that payouts are raised ... not like now, blocking who knows how much money ... this is bad :2 cents:

You're exactly right, TeenCat. That's the way they SHOULD do it, but they clearly aren't interested in following the TOS in this matter. 2015 and it's still the Wild Wild West.

Jel 05-18-2015 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 20477595)
You should have made a post like this:

Did you hear that "XADULT COMPANY NAME" raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

saved me some typing :thumbsup

XSAXS 05-18-2015 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Shemp (Post 20477595)
You should have made a post like this:

Did you hear that "XADULT COMPANY NAME" raised their minimum payout to $1000.00 ?

Yep, you're right, Shemp. That's why you're the Master. Unfortunately, brevity has never been my specialty.

Perhaps I'll use your method if I don't get satisfaction. Thanks. :pimp

the Shemp 05-18-2015 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477598)
Yep, you're right, Shemp. That's why you're the Master. Unfortunately, brevity has never been my specialty.

Perhaps I'll use your method if I don't get satisfaction. Thanks. :pimp

yup, or PM me the info, i'd be more than happy to post it ...

plaster 05-18-2015 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by XSAXS (Post 20477598)
Yep, you're right, Shemp. That's why you're the Master. Unfortunately, brevity has never been my specialty.

Perhaps I'll use your method if I don't get satisfaction. Thanks. :pimp

You are actually gonna have egg on your face if you don't post the sponsor... ya know that right?

k0nr4d 05-19-2015 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MetaMan (Post 20477496)
[4] Continue being a pussy. Ask other people advice on how to do my business. Dont mention any names because i need others approval because im not man enough. Wash my vagina hoping i grow a penis.

This one sounds about right. You already know what you have to do and you are just wanting "approval". You've already made your decision, just follow through with it now. :thumbsup

Adzvertise 05-19-2015 12:57 AM

Just think how pissed you would be if you was new to the business and worked hard to get to such a threshold and then be told that the minimum is now 20 times the figure set in the terms. Really disappointing.

Colmike9 05-19-2015 01:03 AM

...Since he doesn't want to post any names and it's supposedly a well known sponsor, has anyone else noticed a payout minimum to $1000?.... I only know of one that high and has always been but DR Nights is kind of an exception. :upsidedow

lock 05-19-2015 01:28 AM

If you wish to warn others it is your duty to name. If you just want your payment and they want their PR send them to this thread first. Someone else will pipe up and say it is happening to them too if they are a larger player.

_Richard_ 05-19-2015 01:33 AM

that sucks :\

EddyTheDog 05-19-2015 01:42 AM

It's good that you can afford to hold off - However, that sort of money could hurt others here - Name them so those people can make an informed decision now...

TeenCat 05-19-2015 01:54 AM

btw, not talking about their previous limit was 50, and you have sitting there 700, so they didnt paid you as they should have? name the sponsor man, then send them this thread, imho that is the only small chance to get your money from them ... :2 cents: or, just send them this thread, they will pay you to not post the name, and all other affiliates will be still fucked by them ... simply decission imho man ... :winkwink:

blackmonsters 05-19-2015 02:48 AM

$1000 min payout.

:1orglaugh


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