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crockett 09-21-2015 05:15 PM

Rachael Fiorina outright lied about vid on keeping the fetus alive in the debate
 
Caught in a fib, Fiorina refuses to acknowledge misstep | MSNBC


It's not like she has a chance in hell of winning the Republican nomination, much less the election but she fucking outright made up a fake story during the debates. She is a Republican, so I already know she is a useless bag of air, but fucking a what a cunt to just outright lie during a presidential debate.

It's not even like its a typical stretching the truth a bit there is zero evidence to back up her claims as no such video exisits.

bronco67 09-21-2015 05:19 PM

They constantly lie because their base would never fact check anything. They all watch Fox News for Christ sake.

TheSquealer 09-21-2015 05:24 PM

Well gee... only took about 1.3 seconds to prove you guys are lying in your usual "we're so liberal and progressive and open minded that the vicious hate and attacks never stop" kinda way.

(WARNING - VIDEO SHOWS THE MOVING FETUS and conversation about salvaging its organs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=31&v=Yhn0DdH8M-0

crockett 09-21-2015 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20585491)
Well gee... only took about 1.3 seconds to prove you guys are lying in your usual "we're so liberal and progressive and open minded that the vicious hate and attacks never stop" kinda way.

(WARNING - VIDEO SHOWS THE MOVING FETUS and conversation about salvaging its organs)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=31&v=Yhn0DdH8M-0

That video cut is not from the planned parenthood "sting" video as she claims. It's a video from something else with the sound added.. It's a complete fabercation as it has nothing at all to do with planned parenthood. She is lying out her ass..

So why are you so stupid that you don't check your evidence before calling someone a lier?

Dvae 09-21-2015 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585488)

Who is this "Rachael" person you are talking about?
Is this more made up shit?

L-Pink 09-21-2015 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20585502)
Who is this "Rachael" person you are talking about?
Is this more made up shit?



He's beating off again because he caught a politician telling less than the truth.


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slapass 09-21-2015 05:51 PM

Do we have an unbiased source? I could only find MSNBC.

Sly 09-21-2015 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 20585490)
They constantly lie because their base would never fact check anything. They all watch Fox News for Christ sake.

Fox News called her out and said she is full of shit.

Since Fox News is always lying, does that mean the video exists?

crockett 09-21-2015 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slapass (Post 20585505)
Do we have an unbiased source? I could only find MSNBC.

There is at least 2 other sources linked from the MSNBC article. One is vox the other being Washington post.. The video clip she is using is not part of any planned parenthood sting video and there is zero evidence that it has anything to do with them..

It's a video she or her anti abortion supporters found somewhere then edited in the voice over. They then tried to play it off as its part of the planned parenthood sting. Which it isn't.. She's a typical Relgious nut, willing to lie to get people to believe her anti abortion agenda..

Sly 09-21-2015 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585510)
There is at least 2 other sources linked from the MSNBC article. One is vox the other being Washington post..

Both of your additional sources are on the liberal side.

But as mentioned above, Fox News has called her out as well.

Rob 09-21-2015 06:02 PM

A GOP candidate is inaccurate about a movie clip she describes during a pretty much meaningless debate, and you go apeshit. Hillary lies while serving as Secretary of State, puts our nation and national security at risk, but gets a pass? You're not a homer, are you? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

crockett 09-21-2015 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dvae (Post 20585502)
Who is this "Rachael" person you are talking about?
Is this more made up shit?

Carly or whatever her first name is, I thought it was Rachael. Anyway you know who I'm talking about, the dumb female wind bag who is running for president on the Republican ticket..

crockett 09-21-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rob (Post 20585514)
A GOP candidate is inaccurate about a movie clip she describes during a pretty much meaningless debate, and you go apeshit. Hillary lies while serving as Secretary of State, puts our nation and national security at risk, but gets a pass? You're not a homer, are you? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Wait what about Benghazi..

Sly 09-21-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585518)
Carly or whatever her first name is, I thought it was Rachael. Anyway you know who I'm talking about, the dumb female wind bag who is running for president on the Republican ticket..

Her name was clearly mentioned multiple times in the article, at important parts, too.

You saw the headline about fibbing and posted it without reading.

L-Pink 09-21-2015 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585518)
Carly or whatever her first name is, I thought it was Rachael. Anyway you know who I'm talking about, the dumb female wind bag who is running for president on the Republican ticket..

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you are such a politico-tard !

slapass 09-21-2015 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sly (Post 20585513)
Both of your additional sources are on the liberal side.

But as mentioned above, Fox News has called her out as well.

Thanks. I didn't even think of looking there hahahah

crockett 09-21-2015 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20585522)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh you are such a politico-tard !

Funny, I seem to attract old dude stalkers, who like to pretend they are living out Easy Rider...

L-Pink 09-21-2015 06:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585542)
Funny, I seem to attract old dude stalkers, who like to pretend they are living out Easy Rider...


http://i.imgur.com/UpyzCPb.jpg

TheSquealer 09-21-2015 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585542)
Funny, I seem to attract old dude stalkers, who like to pretend they are living out Easy Rider...

When you live in your own car "by,.... ahem!.... by choice", you automatically lose every single argument about personal finance and lifestyle in perpetuity, without limitations and throughout the universe.

crockett 09-21-2015 06:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20585554)
When you live in your own car "by choice", you automatically lose every single argument about personal finance and lifestyle.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Actually.. It's extreemly smart as far as personal finance goes.. All the hip starter up guys are doing it in the Bay Area..

Sly 09-21-2015 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585557)
Actually.. It's extreemly smart as far as personal finance goes.. All the hip starter up guys are doing it in the Bay Area..

In the bay area it costs $3k a month for a shoebox. Yeah, probably makes sense there.

crockett 09-21-2015 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20585550)

My van is way cooler than that.. But that's a pretty awesome ride for Baddog, it's nice to see the old guy in his younger years before he became a grumpy consertive. :1orglaugh

TheSquealer 09-21-2015 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585557)
Actually.. It's extreemly smart as far as personal finance goes.. All the hip starter up guys are doing it in the Bay Area..

uhmm.. except that you are unemployed and not an entrepreneur. or is that now considered "hip"? one thing they aren't doing for sure, is wandering around the country like Forest Gump - dedicating their time to arguing politics day and night on a forum for a business they have absolutely nothing to do with.

crockett 09-21-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 20585562)
uhmm.. except that you are unemployed and not an entrepreneur. or is that now considered "hip"? one thing they aren't doing is wandering around the country like Forest Gump.

Forest Gump just felt like running.. Why's that such a bad thing? You miss the key lesson, which was to live your dreams..

L-Pink 09-21-2015 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585561)
My van is way cooler than that.. But that's a pretty awesome ride for Baddog, it's nice to see the old guy in his younger years before he became a grumpy consertive. :1orglaugh

http://i.imgur.com/ySjwcaw.jpg


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Rochard 09-21-2015 06:56 PM

This video does not exist. It's a lie, a fabrication, and is nothing more than propaganda. The video taken wasn't of an abortion, but instead was a stillborn child - and had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood.

It's mind blowing that a political candidate would quote a video that is obviously false.

crockett 09-21-2015 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20585577)
This video does not exist. It's a lie, a fabrication, and is nothing more than propaganda. The video taken wasn't of an abortion, but instead was a stillborn child - and had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood.

It's mind blowing that a political candidate would quote a video that is obviously false.

You are quite the Crockett scientist.. I approve.:thumbsup

crockett 09-21-2015 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20585574)

Hush.. Sly told me if I won troll of the year, we'd get a special Crockett forum emoticon..

L-Pink 09-21-2015 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585590)
Hush.. Sly told me if I won troll of the year, we'd get a special Crockett forum emoticon..


I'll start a crowd-fund to repaint your van.


http://i.imgur.com/dBfGdzL.jpg

crockett 09-21-2015 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20585598)
I'll start a crowd-fund to repaint your van.


http://i.imgur.com/dBfGdzL.jpg

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh now that's pretty sweet..

L-Pink 09-21-2015 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585600)
:1orglaugh:1orglaugh now that's pretty sweet..


Great photo isn't it :1orglaugh

dyna mo 09-21-2015 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20585577)
This video does not exist. It's a lie, a fabrication, and is nothing more than propaganda. The video taken wasn't of an abortion, but instead was a stillborn child - and had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood.

It's mind blowing that a political candidate would quote a video that is obviously false.

rochard and crockett get it wrong again.

here's the video



and here is the sworn statement by the owner of the video:

Gregg Cunningham, executive director of The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, the organization that obtained the footage and provided it to CMP, said in a statement:

?The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic. It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don?t go to abortion clinics to miscarry. Had this case been a miscarriage, the mother would have presented at a hospital and her baby would have been rushed to an Isolette for appropriate neonatal care ? not abandoned to writhe and eventually expire in a cold, stainless steel specimen vessel. As regards the organizational affiliation of the abortion facility in which this termination was performed, our access agreements forbid the disclosure of any information which might tend to identify the relevant clinics or personnel with whom we work. Preserving confidentiality is vital to future clinic access. I can, however, assure you that the footage in question is not anomalous. It is representative of the frequent outcomes of many late term intact delivery terminations performed at clinics of all organizational affiliations.?

https://www.abortionno.org/about-cbr/director-profiles/

Mr Pheer 09-21-2015 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585488)
Caught in a fib, Fiorina refuses to acknowledge misstep | MSNBC


It's not like she has a chance in hell of winning the Republican nomination, much less the election but she fucking outright made up a fake story during the debates. She is a Republican, so I already know she is a useless bag of air, but fucking a what a cunt to just outright lie during a presidential debate.

It's not even like its a typical stretching the truth a bit there is zero evidence to back up her claims as no such video exisits.

http://images.sodahead.com/profiles/..._bear_pig.jpeg

crockett 09-21-2015 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 20585626)
rochard and crockett get it wrong again.

here's the video



and here is the sworn statement by the owner of the video:

Gregg Cunningham, executive director of The Center for Bio-Ethical Reform, the organization that obtained the footage and provided it to CMP, said in a statement:

“The video clip we provided to CMP depicted an intact delivery abortion. It was filmed at an abortion clinic. It was not a miscarriage. Mothers don’t go to abortion clinics to miscarry. Had this case been a miscarriage, the mother would have presented at a hospital and her baby would have been rushed to an Isolette for appropriate neonatal care — not abandoned to writhe and eventually expire in a cold, stainless steel specimen vessel. As regards the organizational affiliation of the abortion facility in which this termination was performed, our access agreements forbid the disclosure of any information which might tend to identify the relevant clinics or personnel with whom we work. Preserving confidentiality is vital to future clinic access. I can, however, assure you that the footage in question is not anomalous. It is representative of the frequent outcomes of many late term intact delivery terminations performed at clinics of all organizational affiliations.”

https://www.abortionno.org/about-cbr/director-profiles/

He claims it was filmed at an abortion clinic.. Doesn't say planned parenthood.. Could be from anywhere... So who got it wrong? You did..

Look I agree late term abortions are fucked and should be illegal unless the mother's life is in danger... However this is not about that.. It's about Relgious fudies lying to try to stir public opinion.

If she will lie about this, she will lie just like Bush did to push us into a war.. Did anyone see how much of a war monger she was in the debate? Why is it all Christian fundies are anti abortion but extreemly pro war?

The other thing is why do right wingers hate abortions so much, then are the first to whine and complain about welfare moms... It's like you guys all are bi polar crazy fucks..

2MuchMark 09-21-2015 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 20585504)
He's beating off again because he caught a politician telling less than the truth.


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It's more than that, LPink..

Fiorina and the other republicans lie constantly about a lot of things, but mostly, lately, about Planned Parenthood. This is really serious because if they get their way, Planned Parenthood will close down and tens of thousands of women will not be able to get the health care they need.

Republicans like to say that Planned Parenthood gives out abortions like candy, that those abortions are paid for by the government, and that they sell fetuses for science experiments. All total bullshit.

Only about 3% of Planned Parenthood's work is for abortions, and 0% of that is paid for by the government. As for selling Fetuses? That's bullshit too. What they actually do is provide Fetal Tissue to Universities. Fetal Tissue Sales : snopes.com

Fiorina is not alone. That holler than thou prick Rick Santorum spewed the same shit, that is, until he quit the race. (Oh and Scott Walker quit today too. Good riddance, gentlemen).

People need to stop throwing up their hands and saying that all politicians lie. This shit is really dangerous, and Florina needs to issue an apology.

2MuchMark 09-21-2015 09:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rochard (Post 20585577)
This video does not exist. It's a lie, a fabrication, and is nothing more than propaganda. The video taken wasn't of an abortion, but instead was a stillborn child - and had nothing to do with Planned Parenthood.

It's mind blowing that a political candidate would quote a video that is obviously false.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585582)
You are quite the Crockett scientist.. I approve.:thumbsup

I approve too!

crockett 09-21-2015 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr Pheer (Post 20585660)

Do you also ride motorcycles and wish you are living the easy rider life?

Mr Pheer 09-21-2015 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585672)
Do you also ride motorcycles and wish you are living the easy rider life?

Me ride a motorcycle? Those fucking things are dangerous.

dyna mo 09-21-2015 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 20585667)
He claims it was filmed at an abortion clinic.. Doesn't say planned parenthood.. Could be from anywhere... So who got it wrong? You did..

Look I agree late term abortions are fucked and should be illegal unless the mother's life is in danger... However this is not about that.. It's about Relgious fudies lying to try to stir public opinion.

If she will lie about this, she will lie just like Bush did to push us into a war.. Did anyone see how much of a war monger she was in the debate? Why is it all Christian fundies are anti abortion but extreemly pro war?

The other thing is why do right wingers hate abortions so much, then are the first to whine and complain about welfare moms... It's like you guys all are bi polar crazy fucks..

i didn't get jack shit wrong. i'll believe the distinguished executive over crockett science. and if you knew what you were yapping about you'd know pp is responsible for 90% of all abortions and clinics.

and even more importantly, she didn't lie. you're the one making shit up about the video.

dyna mo 09-21-2015 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ********** (Post 20585669)
It's more than that, LPink..

Fiorina and the other republicans lie constantly about a lot of things, but mostly, lately, about Planned Parenthood. This is really serious because if they get their way, Planned Parenthood will close down and tens of thousands of women will not be able to get the health care they need.

Republicans like to say that Planned Parenthood gives out abortions like candy, that those abortions are paid for by the government, and that they sell fetuses for science experiments. All total bullshit.

Only about 3% of Planned Parenthood's work is for abortions, and 0% of that is paid for by the government. As for selling Fetuses? That's bullshit too. What they actually do is provide Fetal Tissue to Universities. Fetal Tissue Sales : snopes.com

Fiorina is not alone. That holler than thou prick Rick Santorum spewed the same shit, that is, until he quit the race. (Oh and Scott Walker quit today too. Good riddance, gentlemen).

People need to stop throwing up their hands and saying that all politicians lie. This shit is really dangerous, and Florina needs to issue an apology.

you have absolutely ZERO idea wtf you are yapping about.

i'm not surprised. you just regurgitate the shit.


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