92% of Americans prefer Sweden's "socialistic" economic system
 

..."participants were shown three unlabeled pie charts meant to depict possible wealth distributions: one that was totally equal; one based on Sweden?s income distribution, which is highly egalitarian; and one based on the U.S. wealth distribution, which is wildly skewed toward the rich. (They used Swedish income data as a model, rather than wealth, to strike a ?clearer contrast? with the United States.)* Then, the subjects were told to pick where they would like to live, assuming they would be randomly assigned to a spot on the economic ladder. With their imaginary fate up to chance, 92 percent of Americans opted for Sweden?s pie chart over the United States."

Americans have no idea how bad inequality is: New Harvard Business School study.

shocker! the bottom wants more than they're willing to work for

I also heard that 99% of kids prefer candy to brussel sprouts.

Wehateporn = paid Russian poster. All he does is post anti west/US propaganda.

He fits right in with the reports of Kremlin paid trolls that have been in the news recently.

"Harvard Business School study" :1orglaugh

no shit that everyone wants more...

kinda ironic though that when "rich" want to earn more it's called "greed"... but it's completely acceptable when everyone else wants more, without even earning it by forcing the "rich" to "share"... :error

That's why the rich Swedes move to Spain, and just visit Sweden.

what kind of slow cooker recipes are you doing these days...? 123 at 456 dot bz

According to you poll -- where workers think wages are fairest:

1. Poland
2. Austria
3. Portugal
4. Japan
5. Australia
6. France
7. United Kingdom
8. Israel
9. Germany
10. Denmark
11. Norway
12. Czech Republic
13. Switzerland
14. Sweden
15. Spain
16. United States

I would suggest that you immigrate to Poland :upsidedow

this should clear it up for you..

"From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" Louis Blanc, then Karl Marx

It sounds good until you try to put it into practice. Then when you do, 50 million starve to death and 20 million are executed. Socialism looks good on paper, but it doesn't take human nature into account.

Sweden, a small homogeneous population, may last longer under that model, but no socialist republic has lasted 100 years. Sweden has not even declared itself "socialist", the ruling party has been the Swedish Social Democratic Party for most of the time since 1945. So they're like a laid back church or a workplace with casual clothes; doesn't matter, in the end it doesn't last.

Why aren't China, India and Russia in that poll?

Too embarrassing -- wider income gaps? Lolz

Bangladesh? Vietnam? Taiwan?
Cherry picking with stats perhaps :2 cents:

Application sent :thumbsup

that wouldn't support the left-wing agenda, so any evidence that shows that US is actually pretty egalitarian compared to 90% of countries in the world needs to be supressed... :thumbsup

:1orglaugh

that feel when communizm dont work :1orglaugh
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and socialism too :1orglaugh

China has one of the lowest GDP per capita in the world, along with one of the highest income inequality....so yea, working great... for the elite... :thumbsup

Socialist doctrine is 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his DEEDS', Soviet Union operated under that tenet - it's the first stage. The Communist dream, a fucked up fever dream, was that stage 1 would be so successful, create such wealth, a utopian society of 'from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs'.

The irony is that the technology innovated from capitalist countries will create a better world where everybody's basic needs will be met. There is no doubt we are heading towards a society where there aren't jobs for many in society and they'll be paid a guaranteed income.

I have good news and bad news for you:

The good news is your are getting a basic income allowance of $400 per working person per month.

The bad news is your new job is on a collective farm as a farm laborer.
If you work you eat if not try and get by on $400 a month -- no food stamps no obamaphone.

You get free healthcare (to the limits of the new farm labor department -- worker services division,) but only if you work or are disabled (really) or elderly.

Welcome to your new Section 9 Farm Labor Housing -- rent is free.

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they do not have so many colonies as usa :1orglaugh
Soviet Union be more great thal liberal capitalist Russia :1orglaugh
free medical care free education free homes - at that time it was at a decent level.
but there was one problem :1orglaugh
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Twirl win Jones

The 1% want more than they're willing to work for, so have created the poor. To make that happen.

Imagine more Americans having the money to pay you to repair their roofs.

If current trends continue people like 12clicks will be broke. Migrants will be fixing any roofs of the people with enough money.

Most here will be broke as Third World workers on very low wages do their jobs.

What do you do that a Third World worker can't do cheaper for a company that's owned by the 1%?

That's what Globalisation means.

I'd lik 2 immigrate to Pooland :2 cents:

Meanwhile currently sober can only create the poo :2 cents:

we didn't create you, you failed. take responsibility for your place in life.

what's kinda ironic is that you don't even realize (or choose to ignore the fact) that you are in the 1% yourself (on the global scale)... :error

do you realize that 80% of the world population makes less than $5k/year? How do you feel about those people? what policies should we enact to solve that injustice? Simplest solution is to just tax the world's top 20%, which would include you, additional 10-20% and transfer that wealth to the poor? Would you be in favor of that?

exactly :1orglaugh
why globalist be pay you if have cheap world workers > $5k/year in china ex. :1orglaugh
the rich will become richer - the poor will become more poorer. it main problem capitalism.
And if capitalism is not regulated. as it is happening now.
will not be such a crime to which will go for the money

In the game of life, I won. Worked my 2 score and 10, built up enough money to retire and retired.

You might be in the same boat, our children won't be. Their jobs will be done in the Third World even if they're high skilled. Or by machine. There's no point in spending extra money to educate them because there won't be jobs enough. Those that there are will go to the children of the 1%, not children of roofers.

Speaking of roofs, how many will go for you or for a migrant worker, or even be able to afford to have a house?

We're not there yet, but look further than your ass to see where it's heading.

As for the market to buy imported goods. China will do fine for the 1%. Go back 150 years to see a parallel.

I don't give a fuck about those who live in countries that are so fucked they can't feed themselves.

As for taxing the top 20%, why do you think the top 1% make sure they own Governments?

50 years ago if you, or anyone reading this, bought something. It was odds on it was made in that country, the seller was a business owned by someone who worked at that place. Or at the Head Office in that country.

Today the odds of anyone here buying something made in the West, from a company owned by anyone they could talk to is a memory. China builds for Boeing, has a Space Program and show no signs of slowing down their erosion of our economies.

Try getting ahead when they're finished.

Edited to make it correct.

When a major industry is casinos gambling with other people's money and invisible money. you know something's got to change.

They were selling 100% mortgages for 200%. How fucked up was that?

Now factor in the mortgage was to a guy who couldn't pay the original 100%.

The stupidest thing is people like 12clicks think they can take responsibility for their lives. They fail to realise they rely on everyone else getting a wage. Go visit places where very few get a decent wage. They're growing.

so a bum down the street who had every opportunity available to him, but failed to take advantage of it, should be helped at the expense of those harder working than him? but who "gives a fuck" about someone who of no fault of his own just happen to by bad luck be born in a poor country? :helpme

Monsieur Sarn, when communism or socialism is 150 years old, or has one country go one century without executing its leaders, get back to me.

I need to slow cook more. Perhaps over the winter. Email sent!

Poland overtakes India as country of origin, UK migration statistics show - BBC News

The Poles think it is so good there that they feel compelled to leave :upsidedow

95 years :1orglaugh

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It's so funny watching you prattle on, old fool.
You're so far down the ladder I can barely see you.
See, I can make roofing jokes too. Only mine are far more accurate

Unless we turn around the current trend, there will be millions of "bums".

Yes, we can give a large portion of our money to countries who will just over populate the region and need even more money in the future.

Name some struggling country that has a falling population.

That's not a sensible reply to my post. Still, if that's the best you can do. I win.

Can you reply with a sensible reply that shows why our children will have the same opportunities you and I had or more insults?

I'm not on your ladder, not on the roof. I'm in the garden sunbathing. Watching you work.

Of course people like it. It is what this country will have within the next 30-40 years.

Maybe or maybe not.

The future, if we carry on as we are, is a small percentage of those in work having good to well-paying jobs and the rest relying on low-wage jobs or Social Security. Will those in good to well-paying jobs be prepared to pay 60% of their income to support the rest of their countrymen?

Tax v GDP

Denmark 50.8
Belgium 47.9
Sweden 45.8
Cuba 44.8
France 44.6
Finland 43.6
Norway 43.6
Italy 43.5
Austria 43.4
Germany 40.6
United Kingdom 39.0

USA 26.9 This is why their debt is out of control. Add to that GDP per capita.

Date Value$
2016 51,364.87
2015 51,133.85
2014 50,052.65
2013 49,246.03
2012 49,102.72
2011 48,275.50
2010 47,858.95
2009 46,795.74
2008 49,206.50
2007 49,260.17
2006 48,896.05

$22,237 per person. Now factor in inflation and who is really earning an increased wage.

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Trump is tapping into this in a big way. The stupidest part of his campaign is Blacks and Mexicans are for Clinton and against Trump. Because he's too stupid to realise these are his biggest chance of winning. Or he's clever enough to know it and wants to loose.

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People like 12clicks are too stupid to get it, in 40-50 years unless jobs come back to the West, there will be civil wars or he will be paid by the State to keep him fed. Because the opportunities he had, won't be there. He must be a Clinton supporter. :1orglaugh

Anyone who thinks billionaires are buying politicians to change the system is too stupid to put an X on a piece of paper.

Look up "fiction". The Constitution of the People's Republic of China was created in 1954! :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

In the early days of the Cultural Revolution, the Politburo Standing Committee ceased normal operations, as many of its key members, such as Liu Shaoqi and Deng Xiaoping, fell out of favour with Mao.