Mindgeek about to get much richer
 

So i was just reading the article on Mindgeek and the new UK age check stuff:

https://news.sky.com/story/porn-watc...-laws-11224093

Where is there actual pricing for this ageid there going to let other porn sites use?

Not only much richer, but tracking every AGEID users porn habits & collecting their mailing address etc....

"The policy also says: "We also may use these technologies to collect information about your online activities over time and across third-party websites or other online services."

MindGeek has suffered high profile hacks in the past, with millions of people's personal information being stolen. A database of pornographic sites visited across the web for 25 million people in the UK would likely be a target for hackers."

You mean, Mindgeed is getting more powerful ...

They won't be able to handle it. They will fall hard

There seems to be a fair bit of competition for the public's money. As shown by how many of them attended Internext:2 cents:

who didn't see this coming 5 years ago? MG are light years ahead of almost everyone in the game.

step 1: traffic grab
step 2: paywall
bonus step 3: be involved in AV
more steps: TBA

Fabian posted years back that what they'd done so far was merely 2 or 3 steps, and like most gold dust on boards, wasn't looked at with anything more than a skim-read by likely 90% of people here.

You have a link?

wouldn't that be against the data protection act?

How did they call that system?

Gladii Version 2.0

it's a cowards world ruled by the rich

Still cant find pricing anywhere. Anyone know other companies that will be doing it then?

You should be happy because this might be the end of free porn.

History has shown us that a mysterious "hack" is always the answer to that. Wasn't it publicized that PH's whole user database and user viewing history was hacked before?

Mindgeek releases statistics all the time and makes it public on their insights page .
https://i.imgur.com/bhlklUT.png
https://twitter.com/pornhubinsights

So, yeah, They are gonna do some shady shit with your info.

The kids will figure it out. TOR or VPN or whatever.

What better way to celebrate the UK's child protection law than going to pornhub
and watch Brazzer's best new actor
Jordi "El Nino" Polla

competition is here the worst what can happen.

we have seen this in germany for many many years.

the AVS systems lost
the government lost
and the majority of the webmasters lost

german market is today in the hand of 20 or 30 big players and that´s it.

but germans still watch porn - nothing changed on that.

this problem can´t be handled from a country and it will never be handled from the whole world.

want to look at porn or not?


sounds like it could be but when you´re after a buzz, what would you care... :Oh crap :helpme

agreed :thumbsup

interesting :2 cents: :warning

MG should be paying us all $1 for everybody we get to Signup with this technology. You know they are going to monetize the DB of info.

In the AV seminar I moderated in Vegas Mindgeek stated that it would be charging site owners. When I asked how much, they declined to give a low or high number, any number at all, and they declined. One should inquire with them to find out what the cost would be, apparently it must be negotiated.

Brad

i tell you what. it is a shame for a government to give that kind of "social care" in the hands of private companies.

this will NEVER work !
we will finally have hundreds of private companies and competition and users have to sign up with all of them to really see everything. nobody can expect they will do it.
we have this experience already with just 5 or 6 competitors in germany.
not one of them survived.

the british government wants it so the government should do it - and they should do it for free and from a neutral position.

the ones what will laugh at the end are the ones who are selling VPN services and that makes it even harder for us to monetize the traffic when we do not even know where it comes from.

Welcome to the world of business. Mindgeek are in business to take the maximum possible, bnot share with others. Tell me a decent becent industry thatshares with its rivals?

Hi Brad,

My site gets around 7k visitors a month and they have quoted me $1.200 per month. Site doesnt even earn that

Running porn sites is over for me if everyone tries charging this

true !

and i do not pass the buck to mindgeek. they just do what everyone would do in their position. the problem is in the brains of the british government.

they do not even assume what they did here and that this will lead to the opposite of what they want.

it will also not help the industry - even when we all would be glad to have the security not to deal with kids.

Here is the full message i got from mindgeek:

A summary of AgeID:
- In essence AgeID is very thin layer, single sign on solution
- It aggregates many age verification solutions, all from different
providers. We cover Credit Card, Mobile SMS, Passport/DL, Social Media,
and another method which requires NO user interaction whatsoever,
consumers won’t even see an AV wall at all, even on first visit (approved
by the regulator). We also have backups for our methods from other
suppliers to ensure 100% uptime and server stability.
- As AgeID will be used across MindGeek’s products and many other big
players, the initial age verification will likely be done on one of our
sites. This means that when a customer hits your site, they
simply go straight in the door.
- AgeID’s focus is ensuring a customer can browse from one site to another
without seeing multiple AV walls or login requests, it works in incognito
mode and across devices.
- The flow of AgeID ensures that if a customer visits a tube site, clicks
a link, follows to an affiliate, then an advertiser – if all partners have
AgeID then browsing is seamless
- We use a simple login – email address and password, both of which are
encrypted via 1-way hash so no data can be revealed in the unlikely event
of a hack
- AgeID only receives back a pass/fail from our identity providers, we do
not see the information a user enters when they verify themselves

Pricing
- AgeID is charged on the basis of a non-variable flat monthly fee for the
duration of the term
- Our fees are based on an estimate of your monthly UK uniques. We use
tools like Alexa.com and Similarweb.com to estimate this data
- Looking at xxxxxxxx.co.uk, our initial quote would be $1,200/month,
(charging will not begin until the law is enforced, which is officially
27th April, but we expect it to be delayed until July.
- If you have other smaller sites, we can bundle them into this price to
cover them all

Tech
- Our API and associated documentation will be ready this week
- It’s a simple code snippet that you add on your UK landing page, you are
in control of how and when you invoke AgeID

Legal
- AgeID will be compliant with the Digital Economy Act 2017, the Data
Protection Act, and GDPR
- I attach an NDA. Once signed I can send you a contract to review so you
have all the information required to make a decision.

Finally, I will be available to discuss this further at your convenience.

Many thanks for considering AgeID, I hope you can see we have a robust,
long-term solution which favours traffic flow and customer experienc

AVSecure- Age Verification on block chain and its FREE

If you haven?t heard of AVSecure yet, you should take a look.

AVSecure has been designed and developed to be the leading age verification solution for the adult industry worldwide and specifically allow compliance with the new UK Digital Economy Act.

FREE to merchant. There is no charge or fee for installing or using AVSecure as a service.

FREE to consumer. There is no charge for a variety of the age verification methods we will offer. We anticipate the following options will be available (subject to final approval by the UK regulator): mobile phone, credit and debit card, electoral and address data , Age Verification Card and government based ID documents.

Please Email Steve [email protected] or register [email protected] for more details.

Thanks Avsecure i will look now

correct :2 cents:

sounds good, let me check.

So the business model is selling the data that you gather on my customers to third parties ?

So my customers end up in penis pill scam hell ?

No thanks.

:(

I agree with this 100% and would not be surprised if others added an affiliate program that pays us per sign up

Will have a look today! Thanks to share we will all need alternative :thumbsup

nope it´s not !
if you are at the lisboa show ask steve about it.

i think we will go AVsecure because there are some options what I will deal out with steve and I think than it makes sense to use it.

AV should not cost money for webmasters - they should be able to MAKE money with it without going the way into darknet.

british surfers are not stupid - they know the ways how to get around that and than there is no way to control it anymore.
we have showed that the german government for more than 20 years that they fucked themself with their AV policy.
it´s just waste of money and man power to try to control that.

ok so let´s say 20 million brits will do that.

10 million will sign up on the big tubes

and 20.000 webmasters worldwide will bring the other 10 million into the AVS in the next 5 years.

100 dollar each per year.

GREAT biz idea :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Well if its free to the user, free to the webmaster, and they are not go to make money out of the data, then it really is a remarkable business venture.

Or a charity.

I am sure there are many questions and I would answer all of them. I just want to make sure this is the right place to do that ? is it "good form" to place more company detail on here ?

i am sure it is NOT a charity - that´s not our biz.
but if you put the right ideas together ALL participating CAN make money with it and THIS should be the goal.

you are right - it is NOT the right place (that´s like always on the bar :1orglaugh )

but i can see a lot of opportunities what makes that disaster to something what can make sense.

as i said: i am dealing with this issue in Germany since 21 years and all what i promised them happend.

we should not forget that AV WAS a biz model in the start when there wasn´t anything to buy or join. adult check was one of the first things i made money with - and not bad money.

now things are a bit different but with the right concept it CAN work.
my good old friend jesus already made wine out of water 2000 years ago.
and he told me how he did that :-)