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huey 02-22-2019 07:20 PM

Dow at 26031
 
Crickets......

pimpmaster9000 02-22-2019 07:39 PM

oh great its back to where it was a year ago...gay crickets...

TheSquealer 02-22-2019 07:40 PM

Leftists here HATE a strong economy. Cause... Orange Man Bad.

Diomed 02-22-2019 07:41 PM

Thank god I'm making money off hipsters.

directfiesta 02-22-2019 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22420881)
Leftists here HATE a strong economy. Cause... Orange Man Bad.

You are boring .... :angrysoap

OneHungLo 02-22-2019 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22420879)
oh great its back to where it was a year ago...gay crickets...

Yeah up almost 40% in 2 years. Oh the horror.

I bet you it hits 30k before Trump starts his second term.

OneHungLo 02-22-2019 08:12 PM

https://i.imgur.com/D2Xih1W.png

Funny, Bladewire missed this one. It's almost as if he's cheering for a financial collapse.


Did you read that Bladey? "This would mark the first time since 1964 that the Dow has rallied in each of the first nine weeks of the year, and the first time in history that has happened for the Nasdaq."

MFCT 02-22-2019 10:12 PM

This is great on two levels. One, it proves Trump is a racist by financially oppressing poor people. And two, it proves Obama's financial policies are continuing to make the economy skyrocket.

huey 02-22-2019 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MFCT (Post 22420929)
This is great on two levels. One, it proves Trump is a racist by financially oppressing poor people. And two, it proves Obama's financial policies are continuing to make the economy skyrocket.

Obama,Trump, does it matter?

thommy 02-22-2019 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22420881)
Leftists here HATE a strong economy. Cause... Orange Man Bad.

loool

dow is up because companies bought their own shares back with taxpayers money.

if you would have the smallest clue about economic indicators you would see that the economy is right now on the level of 2014.

durable goods orders 60% UNDER expectation
philadelphia fed index went up for a year and is now UNDER the level before trump
went to office.

compare inflation, consumer prices and wages and you see that even with trumps tax break the prosperity (for the normal people) in US under trump went down.

TheSquealer 02-22-2019 11:35 PM

thommy, we all know you hate the success of the USA. get over it. forget about the fact that DE once had one of the most stable economies, banking climates and currencies in all of Europe and the world before joining the Euro and EU. It is over. That's all gone now. You'll never be the USA. The USA never wants to be you. You can't offend your betters,.. no matter how hard you try. You are like a chihuahua barking at a lion. No one cares and it's more sad than amusing.

huey 02-22-2019 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22420942)
loool

dow is up because companies bought their own shares back with taxpayers money.

if you would have the smallest clue about economic indicators you would see that the economy is right now on the level of 2014.

durable goods orders 60% UNDER expectation
philadelphia fed index went up for a year and is now UNDER the level before trump
went to office.

compare inflation, consumer prices and wages and you see that even with trumps tax break the prosperity (for the normal people) in US under trump went down.

Short away.

thommy 02-23-2019 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22420953)
thommy, we all know you hate the success of the USA. get over it. forget about the fact that DE once had one of the most stable economies, banking climates and currencies in all of Europe and the world before joining the Euro and EU. It is over. That's all gone now. You'll never be the USA. The USA never wants to be you. You can't offend your betters,.. no matter how hard you try. You are like a chihuahua barking at a lion. No one cares and it's more sad than amusing.

we all know that you are a dumb ignorant of the truth.

you only see what you want to see and close your eyes from the rest.

but i donīt care if you think you are a lion and die in your own rabbit shit.
i really do not care that. i care the people that have a brain and are able to understand the facts. you are not one of them.
you confuse pity with jealousy when you think that someone in the western world would be jealous of america. there's nothing to be jealous of and nothing to be proud of anymore.

actually we just have to wait until you have destroyed yourselves - but unfortunately you also destroy the rest of the world and therefore it is also our thing what happens to you.

the hate and arrogance that trump and people like you have sown over the last few years will cost you more than just a world trade center, because 95% of the world's population will not be dictated by 5% as to how it all have to work.

you are on the best way to become the worlds number 1 enemy. if you donīt care that it shows only how little you care your own country.

TheSquealer 02-23-2019 12:29 AM

I love when the resident German Nazi who feels anyone who disagrees with him is inferior in every way and who frequently wishes death and suffering on others, talks about "hate" in others.

thommy 02-23-2019 12:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22420971)
I love when the resident German Nazi who feels anyone who disagrees with him is inferior in every way and who frequently wishes death and suffering on others, talks about "hate" in others.

keep the "nazi" classification for your own passport.
hitler would be proud on you - he also loved the uneducated morons.

TheSquealer 02-23-2019 01:14 AM

I'm not a turd like you. I don't wish suffering, pain and death on others simply because i disagree with them.

That's a special trait of German Nazis like you.

Look, you had your chance. Nazis made their move, it didn't work out,.. so give it up.

Don't hate me for Patton and Montgomery the Russians ultimately steamrolling German troops and liberating the Nazi camp survivors and preventing you guys from fully wiping out entire races of people.

Maybe next time,... but you'll have to withdraw from the EU and Euro and get your shit together as a nation again first.

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22420891)
https://i.imgur.com/D2Xih1W.png

Funny, Bladewire missed this one. It's almost as if he's cheering for a financial collapse.


Did you read that Bladey? "This would mark the first time since 1964 that the Dow has rallied in each of the first nine weeks of the year, and the first time in history that has happened for the Nasdaq."


I like how hopelessly brainwashed americans are...one points out how the dow has gained exactly 0 in one year and they come back with "first time since 1964 that dow rallied 9 weeks" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


well its up 400% in 10 years...trumps 40% in 2 years is SERIOUS UNDERPERFORMANCE if you know basic math...

but trump supporters struggle with basic math...it hurts their unused brain :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

thommy 02-23-2019 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22420987)
I like how hopelessly brainwashed americans are...one points out how the dow has gained exactly 0 in one year and they come back with "first time since 1964 that dow rallied 9 weeks" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


well its up 400% in 10 years...trumps 40% in 2 years is SERIOUS UNDERPERFORMANCE if you know basic math...

but trump supporters struggle with basic math...it hurts their unused brain :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

unused brain would mean that there is hope.
but where is no brain there is no hope.

the markets right now are not reacting on present numbers - they are reacting on the hope that the tradewar between china and US will find and end.

actually this tradewar did not change anything positive on the trade balance - in fact the imports increased and a lot of US companies moved out of the country.

did it hit chinaīs economy?
indeed it did - but not the way expected.
many chinese producers opened factories in thailand, india, bangladesh an other asian countries and produce all the stuff what is effected by the trade war there.
this investions in those countries have been the only hit and it is mostly going into assets.
so values just moved but not into US.

a new chinese deal will not change that anymore because they changed already the strategy and build new and bigger connections in asia and europe.

in crude numbers you can see the following:

US- exports was rising from 185 billion monthly by the end of 2016 to 209 billion now.
this is an increase of roughly 24 billion by month.

imports in the same time increased from 230 to 260 billion. this is 30 billion more per month. so what trump did made the trade balance worse and not better.

one of the most important production indicators (philadelphia fed manufactoring index) dropped this week again and it now UNDER the level when trump took office

car production went under the line of 2012
construction spendings under the level of 2016

i really don't know where this dreamers gets the numbers that could even remotely have a positive impact on economic growth.

the only thing that's going better than ever in the usa is the export of weapons to crisis countries. the same weapons that not only kill innocent people but also americans in the end.

BaldBastard 02-23-2019 03:00 AM

Hopefully its going to be an awesome week! China trade deal fever!!

Even at these early stages, stop and listen to what Trump is saying..

Its fucking alarming, he got nothing

thommy 02-23-2019 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22421019)
Hopefully its going to be an awesome week! China trade deal fever!!

Even at these early stages, stop and listen to what Trump is saying..

Its fucking alarming, he got nothing

they will give him something what is complicated enough to sell it as a great victory.
but in fact the trade war is already lost as china have so much reserves not touched and the US is already over the limit.

the biggest joker they have is, that they are one of the biggest creditors to the US. they will do a fuck and give more money to finance a trade war.
trump overestimated the position he is in. at the very end there will only be a big nothing what is again sold as a big win to the stupids.

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22421003)
unused brain would mean that there is hope.
but where is no brain there is no hope.

the markets right now are not reacting on present numbers - they are reacting on the hope that the tradewar between china and US will find and end.

actually this tradewar did not change anything positive on the trade balance - in fact the imports increased and a lot of US companies moved out of the country.

did it hit chinaīs economy?
indeed it did - but not the way expected.
many chinese producers opened factories in thailand, india, bangladesh an other asian countries and produce all the stuff what is effected by the trade war there.
this investions in those countries have been the only hit and it is mostly going into assets.
so values just moved but not into US.

a new chinese deal will not change that anymore because they changed already the strategy and build new and bigger connections in asia and europe.

in crude numbers you can see the following:

US- exports was rising from 185 billion monthly by the end of 2016 to 209 billion now.
this is an increase of roughly 24 billion by month.

imports in the same time increased from 230 to 260 billion. this is 30 billion more per month. so what trump did made the trade balance worse and not better.

one of the most important production indicators (philadelphia fed manufactoring index) dropped this week again and it now UNDER the level when trump took office

car production went under the line of 2012
construction spendings under the level of 2016

i really don't know where this dreamers gets the numbers that could even remotely have a positive impact on economic growth.

the only thing that's going better than ever in the usa is the export of weapons to crisis countries. the same weapons that not only kill innocent people but also americans in the end.


the whole concept that you can force people to buy your goods is a scam...sure you can make china buy soybeans from the USA and not from some other US trade partner but its not really a win...the US trade partner now has less money and US goods in that country will not exactly be popular because they know who threw them under the bus...they will nevertheless declare it as a huge win :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the bottom line is: if you have to blackmail people in to buying your goods, the end is nigh...

but its the best 9 weeks ever on the stock market, if you completely ignore the year before :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


here is a gay cricket for OP

http://i.imgur.com/a3HIR2n.jpg

BaldBastard 02-23-2019 05:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thommy (Post 22421029)
they will give him something what is complicated enough to sell it as a great victory.
but in fact the trade war is already lost as china have so much reserves not touched and the US is already over the limit.

the biggest joker they have is, that they are one of the biggest creditors to the US. they will do a fuck and give more money to finance a trade war.
trump overestimated the position he is in. at the very end there will only be a big nothing what is again sold as a big win to the stupids.


https://twitter.com/SecretarySonny/s...49705131118592

BREAKING: In Oval Office meeting today, the Chinese committed to buy an additional 10 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans. Hats off to @POTUS for bringing China to the table!!!

See winning! Slight issue is America had 35 billion in trade previously, China stopped importing American beans, other countries took over that market. I'm sure the Chinese right now can use 10 million more.. It's the Year Of The Piggy

But next year reality hits, that reality for the simpletons.. Brazil took your business.
https://www.agweb.com/article/breaki...live-analysis/

This Ag web pod cast is great! there like YO Go TRUMP!!!, then they work out they have 72% less business than they had before, and they still haven factored in.. Brazil is now the worlds largest producer.

I find it really sad, because they're still believing, when the reality is not only has Trump fucked their business.. he fucked it for generations.

huey 02-23-2019 05:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22421038)
the whole concept that you can force people to buy your goods is a scam...sure you can make china buy soybeans from the USA and not from some other US trade partner but its not really a win...the US trade partner now has less money and US goods in that country will not exactly be popular because they know who threw them under the bus...they will nevertheless declare it as a huge win :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

the bottom line is: if you have to blackmail people in to buying your goods, the end is nigh...

but its the best 9 weeks ever on the stock market, if you completely ignore the year before :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


here is a gay cricket for OP

http://i.imgur.com/a3HIR2n.jpg

China has nothing to offer that the US could not create itself.

I banged two hot Christian Orthodox Serb chics in the last year. They love gay cricket cock : )

There is a Croatian saying, God spent 99% of his time creating Serbian women and 1% of his time on the men.

thommy 02-23-2019 06:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22421049)
https://twitter.com/SecretarySonny/s...49705131118592

BREAKING: In Oval Office meeting today, the Chinese committed to buy an additional 10 million metric tons of U.S. soybeans. Hats off to @POTUS for bringing China to the table!!!

See winning! Slight issue is America had 35 billion in trade previously, China stopped importing American beans, other countries took over that market. I'm sure the Chinese right now can use 10 million more.. It's the Year Of The Piggy

But next year reality hits, that reality for the simpletons.. Brazil took your business.
https://www.agweb.com/article/breaki...live-analysis/

This Ag web pod cast is great! there like YO Go TRUMP!!!, then they work out they have 72% less business than they had before, and they still haven factored in.. Brazil is now the worlds largest producer.

I find it really sad, because they're still believing, when the reality is not only has Trump fucked their business.. he fucked it for generations.

what most people will not understand is this.

US soy bean exports to china have been 8.2 million metric tonns in 2018
if they buy now 10 million more (and that will be trumpīs winning message) they will buy 18.2 million metric tonns.

BUT in 2017 and before they bought 21 million metric tonns.
means in total nearly 4 million tonns LESS as before - BIG MAGA !!!!!

and as you correctly described China made already new deals and many other countries
increased the soy production for china and they did not do it because of a few month.
these are longterm contracts and the US farmers will NEVER deliver the same amount again. BIG BIG MAGA !!!

about the real problems the world have with china exports there is no word in this new trade deal. actually this is nothing what china or the US could resolve - it is the WTO that can and have to.
but the WTO will do a fuck for trump after all names he called them. all international action will be on ice to the time after trump. they want to wait if there will be one who understand the job. nobody will make any longterm deal with a dumb sociopath.

thommy 02-23-2019 06:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huey (Post 22421062)
China has nothing to offer that the US could not create itself.

you know that you talk about the largest economy in the world????
why do you think they are that if they have nothing anybody else need?

wait a few years and than the US will lose itīs 3rd place in the list to india. with their present growth rate of 7,2% that should be within the next 6 or 7 years. if trump wins in 2020 even earlier.

BaldBastard 02-23-2019 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by huey (Post 22421062)
China has nothing to offer that the US could not create itself.

you all better get fucking very very fast then. because what China is offering is access to their emerging second wave of population hitting middleclass.. all 850 million of them.

This is what's been stupid, despite any trade imbalance now, that's all about to flip, as the Chinese themselves start consuming more than they can produce.

huey 02-23-2019 07:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22421083)
you all better get fucking very very fast then. because what China is offering is access to their emerging second wave of population hitting middleclass.. all 850 million of them.

This is what's been stupid, despite any trade imbalance now, that's all about to flip, as the Chinese themselves start consuming more than they can produce.

That's my point. US has natural resources and can manufacture anything they buy from another country or sell back to another country.

thommy 02-23-2019 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrBaldBastard (Post 22421083)
all 850 million of them.

let me correct you here:

1,386 billion of them !!!

OneHungLo 02-23-2019 08:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22420987)
I like how hopelessly brainwashed americans are...one points out how the dow has gained exactly 0 in one year and they come back with "first time since 1964 that dow rallied 9 weeks" :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh


well its up 400% in 10 years...trumps 40% in 2 years is SERIOUS UNDERPERFORMANCE if you know basic math...

but trump supporters struggle with basic math...it hurts their unused brain :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

To put it in perspective, a little under a year before Obama was elected the Dow was 14k. It was at 18K when Trump was elected. Such bad recessions are are followed by very strong recoveries. Not with Obama - he literally had the worst performance in the history of recoveries.


Plus with Obama you had nothing but 8 years of FREE money. ZERO interest rate hikes. No trade wars.

So get a clue dude :2 cents:

OneHungLo 02-23-2019 08:36 AM

These threads really bring the anti-American slimeballs from out of the gutter. As you notice, the usual anti-Trump suspects (redfed, crockett, bronco etc) avoid these because it's kind of hard to spin the fact that Trump got China to buy over a trillion dollars worth of goods as a bad thing lol

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22421132)
Trump got China to buy over a trillion dollars worth of goods as a bad thing lol

Correction, trump got china to NOT buy 1 trillion from your trade partners but from you instead...your trade partners now have 1 trillion less AND they know the USA is to blame...I am sure they will stand in line to buy US goods now LOL...

you need to blackmail people to buy from you....need I say more?

OneHungLo 02-23-2019 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22421154)
Correction, trump got china to NOT buy 1 trillion from your trade partners but from you instead...your trade partners now have 1 trillion less AND they know the USA is to blame...I am sure they will stand in line to buy US goods now LOL...

you need to blackmail people to buy from you....need I say more?

Again, I've explained this to you in another thread that trade is fluid and not a zero sum game.

And now negotiating a better deal is blackmail? hahaha you can't even make this shit up.

OMG orange man bad! He's blackmailing China!!!

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22421155)
Again, I've explained this to you in another thread that trade is fluid and not a zero sum game.

And now negotiating a better deal is blackmail? hahaha you can't even make this shit up.

OMG orange man bad! He's blackmailing China!!!

No new buyers were created...the seats on the titanic have been rearranged...you still have to balackmail people so they buy from you...you can call this " a better deal" but your trade deficit seems to be only thing growing...seats rearranged and declared as MAGA IRL

OneHungLo 02-23-2019 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22421159)
No new buyers were created...the seats on the titanic have been rearranged...you still have to balackmail people so they buy from you...you can call this " a better deal" but your trade deficit seems to be only thing growing...seats rearranged and declared as MAGA IRL

The only problem with your analogy is the international trade isn't like deck chairs on the titanic. Not even close. See your ignorance is causing you to have ITDS (international Trump Derangement Syndrome).

TheSquealer 02-23-2019 09:54 AM

Oh, the envy of hateful foreigners. Always nice to see all the important nations weighing in on right and wrong and morality and how others "hate" or "invade"... a British prison colony, a mass murdering 3rd Reich who is responsible for the deaths of 10s of millions and the local rep from the Eastern European Center for Modern Day Genocide.

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22421167)
The only problem with your analogy is the international trade isn't like deck chairs on the titanic. Not even close. See your ignorance is causing you to have ITDS (international Trump Derangement Syndrome).

I am not comparing international trade to the titanic...I am comparing US exports to the titanic...nobody wants your shit...so you are forced to blackmail people to buy...MAGA!

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheSquealer (Post 22421175)
Oh, the envy of hateful foreigners. Always nice to see all the important nations weighing in on right and wrong and morality and how others "hate" or "invade"... a British prison colony, a mass murdering 3rd Reich who is responsible for the deaths of 10s of millions and the local rep from the Eastern European Center for Modern Day Genocide.

Nobody envies you...you just like to think so because you have fragile egos...you are the cancer of the earth...we will be free from you one day...

OneHungLo 02-23-2019 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22421179)
I am not comparing international trade to the titanic...I am comparing US exports to the titanic...nobody wants your shit...so you are forced to blackmail people to buy...MAGA!

Nobody wants American stuff.

Hey if that helps calm your ptsd and helps you sleep at night then fine...you're right :1orglaugh

pimpmaster9000 02-23-2019 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OneHungLo (Post 22421182)
Hey if that helps calm your ptsd and helps you sleep at night then fine...you're right :1orglaugh

Did the trade deficit drop? No? Let me know when your total trade deficitgoes down...until then, enjoy the rearranged seats...

TheSquealer 02-23-2019 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crucifissio (Post 22421180)
Nobody envies you...you just like to think so because you have fragile egos...you are the cancer of the earth...we will be free from you one day...

this coming from the nation that started World War 1 and who is more famous for executions and mass graves in contemporary history.

Who had to stop Serbs from their genocidal murder spree???

The USA and NATO.

Sorry that we interrupted your passion project.


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