Trump just killed Huawei phones.... Global
 

Wtf? Thanks orange cunt

https://www.theverge.com/platform/amp/2019/5/20/18632234/huawei-android-ban-response-google-security-updates

https://www.theverge.com/2019/5/19/18631558/google-huawei-android-suspension

Trump is fucking the US long term.. China will retaliate and China will go with their own OS systems from now on so they can't be crippled by US sanctions. Other countries will join in because the now see they US as inconsistent and not dependable.


You can't have a deranged leader just up and making rash decisions on a whim and constantly saying stupid shit. America's power around the world is our global stability and dependability. Trump and Republicans are making us unstable and very unreliable..


Red Hats are fucking idiots who are fucking this country because they are having temper tantrums that they aren't a majority anymore.. so because they can't have their way they want to destroy everything like spoiled bitches..

The trade wars can unstabilize the global economy.
Trade wars should creep slowly to avoid damage; but Trump is dropping nukes on day one.

:2 cents:

This really is not about the phones.
It is about the backbone hardware/firmware/software of '5G' tech.
It is the network that is of issue. This is a whole new animal, not like what we have now, but while it may 'look' the same to you. it is not.

Those Huawei phones can zoom 50x I heard - that’s nuts

rip wahwei

Maybe you should read some of the links....

Next China will hit Apple and Lenovo

Lenovo is a Chinese company. IBM sold that a long time ago.
The fear the government has on them 'may be legit' and it is about the 'NETWORK' and 'SECURITY' no matter what else they shoot at.
It all stems from 'secret code' embedded in micro-controllers.
Hitting Apple would be shooting themselves in the foot because they are made there.
Perhaps not much longer.

i hope Huawei make own version of android, no problem with this

fuck google! they will lost

Doubt it. I don't know about Lenovo but Apple is huge employer indirectly and directly in China. They support almost 5 million jobs there. China fucks them, they fuck themselves.

I know Lenovo is Chinese FFS, Im a reseller of their hardware. What you dont understand is that China Will hit Chinese companies selling hardware (hardware in Apple are 70% Chinese) to USA. This means hardware in both HPE and Lenovo. My Cisco partner wont comment, but waits for a official statement.

Well, perhaps it is time for everyone to re-learn what a trade war looks like.
They seem to have forgot.

who will win the race? the fat expensive dude or the thin cheap one?...USA went and fucked itself...

Might be the first good move Trump has made. Fuck Huawei aka Chinese government in our pockets and on our networks.

yeah! the NSA is enough :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

anyway I would NOT like to be qualcomm in the next 2-3 years :2 cents::2 cents::2 cents::thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Fuck the Chinese and their global usury banking system.

Blocking firms like Huawei is good.

Unless you think governments should be able to snoop on the people.

Or is this just another stupid rant of Orange man = Bad?Without even giving it a thought.

Ok so here are some actual facts on how this will actually affect Huawei and the wider electronics industry.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48345509

We wouldn't want gfy peeps spouting ill informed nonsense.

Trumps US ban won´t change phones as we know it, the world´s a massive place and besides, Sony XZ3 and 1´s so much better for video and the phone´s sexier! :thumbsup

US fucks China, they fuck themselves .

You are 400 million , they are 1.4 billion ....

Let me check with Angela Merkel ....

So all those american companies just lost a big client ...

Funny how Trump on one side cries that the trade deficit is huge , but just prevented US companies to sell to China, in fact increasing the deficit ...

But let's not forget : he went bankrupt quite a few times .... One chapter he reads of a book is chapter 11 .

This is my cellphone so:

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I don't see how this is good for anyone.

1 - Lots of US companies base their business on selling their tech to the Chinese who build the phones. That ban cuts off their revenue stream. There aren't many other big players to whom they can sell their tech at such huge volumes

2 - With the ban, China will no longer have access to some key components in their phones. So what will they do? The same thing they have always done: reverse engineer all the tech and build it themselves. In the long run, they don't need the US.

3 - All this to stop spying? If it isn't China, its Apple, Facebook, Google or the NSA that can be listening in on us. Banning Huawei is simply a false sense of security. Most of the shit we have in our homes is sourced from China. Unless you all want to start paying 10x the price for stuff, it will continue to be sourced from China.

Seems to me this is a very shallow & short term play to look good.

:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Really, This comes down to a matter of trust.
When 5G rolls out, it will eventually take over everything.
They have a lead in the tech since the government has subsidized it.
If you really think about it, it is more about maintaining some sovereignty of our #1 communications network outside of the internet itself.
I could sit here and make valid accusations of nearly any communications company.
Any of them would sell out if they thought they would not be caught and many have not been caught.

So, it is more than the mere hardware, it is about a patented standard for those communications. If the entire world becomes dependent on China or a Chinese co, it will likely be very frustrating. Some can and will view this as a Take-Over attempt in the communication field. Could it be intentional security flawed ? Do you really want to take that chance. They have already won contracts with a lot of the world with large promises, early deployment, low cost.

It is going to be pretty hard to understand the gravity of all of this.
And everyone should know that we are not going to be told the details of it all.
But these type of decisions leave the play wide open for corruption. I'm sure some has been baked in already. Picking on just the phone hardware has little effect except in payola protectionism or perhaps a broader issue in the trade war.

You will have to wait for more details to surface to make a decision. I only hope we learn more, but not just Cheri-picked info to sway everyone's decisions. Keep your mind a bit open on this.

I am perhaps luckier than some on this as I followed this tech in fair detail for a very long time.

Unfortunately this is long overdue. :2 cents:

Time to come back to the sources ... :stoned

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So you're in favour of the Chinese snooping on Americans. :thumbsup

If the technology was built in America, those firms would be selling to American firms and selling to the Chinese. Why didn't you see that from the go?

They paul markhamed and moved their production to cheap countries...like paul markham...patriotism ends at the wallet...just ask paul...

But that's what Google is doing all the time.

It gets worse.
 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48363772

And this is the problem with Trumps blundering - international business at this level is a lot more complex than the Orange Buffoon's thought processes and idiotic tweets.

Jobs lost, livelihoods destroyed, destruction of value in companies, bankruptcies, unintended consequences.

This is what a trade war looks like, and Trump is thrashing about like a child.

:(

a fat expensive slow dude is making the skinny lean mean cheap dude step up his game...not smart :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

not smart at all...

US companies doing business in china just got fucked because you can not plan long term growth if the USA is going to fuck you when ever it wants...so china will produce in house...true, their shit may be 10% slower but it will be 90% cheaper...

profits-o-clock for the people who will step in to replace ARM/qualcomm and others...

.. China's going to go fully 5g next year, basically the west can use Huawei equipment now and attempt to achieve the same, or wait until western countries catch up on the equipment.... either way China wins.

For America to be smart all effort has to go into 6g, starting with massive Government research grants right now.

And sorry guys but I can't see that happening.

All we've really learned from the Huawei ruling is that the American government, can tap in to any phone they want, they just don't like the Chinese having the same ability.

Any ACTUAL and CONCRETE proof ????

You know, like the NSA spying on US citizens as well as foreign head of state ?