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notjoe 05-29-2003 04:12 AM

How many of you self-employed people would take a job working for someone else?
 
Here is the scenario.

You're running your own business and doing your own thing when someone offers you a job. Lets say you make 40k USD/year doing your own thing but the job offer would pay you 60K a year.

How many of you would sell yourself out to the job offer?

Someone's post got me thinking this. The only way I would probably do this is if my business model blew and the money I made myself started to go down on a steady basis.

Personally, I rather the 40k/year and be my own man than the 60k/year but that is just me

So, what would you do?

FlyingIguana 05-29-2003 04:14 AM

depends on the job

Jakke PNG 05-29-2003 04:14 AM

depends on the money

Qumbus 05-29-2003 04:16 AM

never again, i feel better trying to make the big green for myself instead of doing it for someone else.

notjoe 05-29-2003 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
depends on the job
Lets say the job is doing what you're doing now but just doing it for them.

TeenGodFather - How much more $ than you make now woudl it take to get you to job the "team"?

FlyingIguana 05-29-2003 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe


Lets say the job is doing what you're doing now but just doing it for them.

TeenGodFather - How much more $ than you make now woudl it take to get you to job the "team"?

no

if its investment banking, i'll be right fucking there :glugglug

notjoe 05-29-2003 04:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Qumbus
never again, i feel better trying to make the big green for myself instead of doing it for someone else.

I'd have to agree with you on this, and not only that but i think working for someone else will kind of limited what you would be able to to/kill off your creativity.

I know when i worked for someone a while ago i had some kickass ideas which never got heard/taken seriously, however, being on my own and implementing those ideas have actually brought in a decent buck or two.

Kapitan Ivanov 05-29-2003 04:24 AM

depends what I would do.

notjoe 05-29-2003 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov
depends what I would do.
Thats what i'm asking, what would you do :)

Kapitan Ivanov 05-29-2003 04:26 AM

Yeah, it really depends though.

notjoe 05-29-2003 04:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kapitan Ivanov
Yeah, it really depends though.
On? Job Security? Possibility for advancement? Possibility to make more in $ in the future (bonuses/raises)?

Jakke PNG 05-29-2003 04:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe



TeenGodFather - How much more $ than you make now woudl it take to get you to job the "team"?

I would have to say 20% more than I make in my best month. :) Stable income would be the only reason I'd work for someone else. My income depends currently just on how much I have design jobs. So If I had a steady salary I'd probably consider joining a team.

My income from my own sites would feed a family in ethiopia for an year, or buy me 7 big macs in a month. So I wouldn't survive long without doing hard design work. :)

Zayne E. 05-29-2003 05:00 AM

I would join a team if the offer came up that was comparable to my current income. When you have a bunch of dependents (wife and 4 kids) you tend to go with the guaranteed check first. Of course, if I was single I would never give up freelancing.

:2 cents:

markell 05-29-2003 05:04 AM

id do it

okdesign 05-29-2003 05:10 AM

depends on the job and money :)

gothweb 05-29-2003 05:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by notjoe
Here is the scenario.

You're running your own business and doing your own thing when someone offers you a job. Lets say you make 40k USD/year doing your own thing but the job offer would pay you 60K a year.

How many of you would sell yourself out to the job offer?


I did that. I never got paid. It was a big bad thing. I don't recommend it, unless you really trust the people employing you.

silver 05-29-2003 05:24 AM

IF THE PERKS WERE RIGHT HELL YEAH ID DO IT , POSSIBLY FOR A NEW CAR MAYBE IN SOME CASES A HOUSE.

El Pres 05-29-2003 05:31 AM

Depends who you are working for.

slapass 05-29-2003 05:34 AM

I worked for someone recently and I found out I am not built for it. If I have 12 hours worth of work I put in 12 hours. People like me get screwed in companies as you end up doing everyones work. Where as on my own this is a real plus as shit gets done.

Jake 05-29-2003 05:35 AM

Noway! I'd never work for anyone! They could offer twice what I make on my own and it still wouldn't be worth the tradeoff! Nope, never!

VideoJ 05-29-2003 05:36 AM

Working for idiots got real old, it's nice being on my own. As long as I'm paying my bills I'd rather be on my own

stocktrader23 05-29-2003 05:37 AM

No chance in hell. I was offered a job at 19 long before I got into this business that was as much as I make now and I turned it down. There are only umpteen different things I can do for money without being employed by someone else.

GeorgeTH 05-29-2003 05:49 AM

NOPE! Haven't worked in an employment situation for more than 10 weeks - in the last 30 years!
So why start now???

Unless: a million bucks p.a. in job doing something like one gallery template per day could -maybe- change my mind...
Nah - dream on!

amph 05-29-2003 05:54 AM

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LeeNoga 05-29-2003 05:57 AM

One angle to consider to answer the 60K question:

Does the risk outweight the benefit.

Make a list of of both of pro's and con's, then its in black and white :-)

I would never wheel and deal my freedom away but thats me. If your a fire starter don't do it, if you have done all you can to be independent and have only hit 40K, consider it.

If your of great value perhaps you can keep your independence and make a consulting deal for less money, this way you maybe accept 20K as consultant combined with your 40K from independence, and you bag the 60K total you were enticed about at the beginning.

Last point is if you take the job for experience you can always come back and be independent, if you do this I would hope you have some job security in writing.....

Maybe keep your business on the side and let someone manage your "properties" for a nice cut that way if the job goes belly up your not starting from nothing.

Sassyass 05-29-2003 05:59 AM

Jesus,
I've worked for a Company two times (I'm doing it now..) and I HATE it.

I AM NOT A CORPORATE DINGO

cashalot 05-29-2003 06:07 AM

i like working for myself. i would never go back to work for somebody else ever!!!!!!!!!!!

20,000 dollars lower is worth it!!!

Trolleater 05-29-2003 06:38 AM

depends on the job and the money.

HS-Trixxxia 05-29-2003 06:55 AM

Well you see, it all depends where you've been. I've been broke and don't want to be there ever again. However, I know what not having a secure income is and let me tell you - tomorrow is my last day of a 'real job' and it's stressing the shit outta me.
I'd take a secure job just to keep me sane (preferrably if I could do it from home) - make sure the bills are paid and maintain this on the side.

Joe, depending on what you are offered, if it keeps you sane and you can still maintain what you have now, sure.

netstarz 05-29-2003 07:02 AM

I would do both

Beastiepoo 05-29-2003 07:12 AM

It would have to be a shitload more than I was making on my own and even then maybe not. If the job was going to be fairly stress free - my own office, no office politics, no one looking over my shoulder - then maybe, but the money would have to be HUGE.

Working at home for myself is the second most fantastic job I've ever done. (the first, of course, being a mommy) There is nothing like working to your own timetable, taking days off when YOU want to, not only at weekends, being able to go on vacation at the drop of a hat or better yet, take a month or two and go to the Bahamas or somewhere with your laptop and work part of the time, and just chill the rest of the time, being able to work almost anywhere in the world.......

I've rambled long enough. Working from home is da bomb and I doubt anyone would ever pay me enough to entice me back into an office.

Lykos 05-29-2003 08:23 AM

Only myself..that is most safe way u will get paid:winkwink:

Kapitan Ivanov 05-29-2003 08:25 AM

I would probably do something.

AM Jeff 05-29-2003 08:29 AM

I do have my own biz and I am also employed by Net Pond to run their gay resourse site.

I do it for the money, potiental, free advertising on Alt Masters, exposure, creditbility.

Only reason I get free ad space on Alt Masters is because I run it.
Wished I could get it free on all of the Ponds networked resourses...lmao

Honeyslut 05-29-2003 08:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by slapass
I worked for someone recently and I found out I am not built for it. If I have 12 hours worth of work I put in 12 hours. People like me get screwed in companies as you end up doing everyones work. Where as on my own this is a real plus as shit gets done.
word

That is why I got out of retail management 2 years ago.. I was doing the work of 3 people and managing.

NBDesign 05-29-2003 08:42 AM

YEs, depends on the job... sometimes the stress and other bullshit that goes with running a business is not worth the hassle. Shit... if the $$$ was right and all I have to do was my job, no fucking taxes, collections, billing, sales, Shit yes I would take it.

I am a designer/programmer... I do not want to do all the other shit that goes with running a business. Too much stress.

Oh yes, and let's not forget those assholes that pay their invoices late.... If they are late, then I am late on my bills. Give me a steady paycheck anyday. But of course, the money would have to be at least equal to my current salary.. or very close anyway. :2 cents:

XxXotic 05-29-2003 08:45 AM

i would have to agree it depends on the job. Everyone has their price for everything and anything. Hell throw enough cash in someones face and they'll take it in the ass from long dong silver.

PrivateEye 05-29-2003 09:29 AM

Hello...this is the same thing I have been thinking about for 6 months. I do pretty good with a group of site I have, over grand a week, but I really do want to go to work for one of the big affiliate programs. I would consider going to work for someone for around 50,000 a year. Thing is...I would halfta have a few options...I want to be paid for my performance :-) If I bring in 250,000$ profit...I want my cut. I think if I could just get my foot in the door I could make a ton of money. I also own a off-line advertising company to help me promote programs.

No I will not give up my sites but they only take a few half days a week to run my sites.

I guess it all depends on what you are wanting outta life :2 cents:

PrivateEye 05-29-2003 09:42 AM

Hello...this is the same thing I have been thinking about for 6 months. I do pretty good with a group of sites I have, over grand a week, but I really do want to go to work for one of the big affiliate programs. I would consider going to work for someone for around 50,000 a year. Thing is...I would halfta have a few options...I want to be paid for my performance :-) If I bring in 250,000$ profit...I want my cut. I think if I could just get my foot in the door I could make a ton of money. I also own a off-line advertising company to help me promote programs.

No I will not give up my sites but they only take a few half days a week to run my sites.

I guess it all depends on what you are wanting outta life :2 cents:

manilaheat 05-29-2003 09:45 AM

Never work for someone else again....

Count your own money, not someone elses ..


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