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mardigras 04-01-2004 04:40 PM

Don't have your real name & address in whois? Govt. wants to make it a 7 year felony
 
7 years for improper whois info and if you're convicted of any other charges regarding a site an additional 7 years to the maximum penalty for the charge.

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d108:h.r.03754:

Might be a good time to consider stealth registrations if you have anything but your real name, address and phone number in your domain registration info.

TheJimmy 04-01-2004 04:42 PM

when is it expected to pass into law? I'm sure it will, just a matter of time...

mardigras 04-01-2004 04:46 PM

No telling, at this point it has only passed House subcommittee.

SoundMan 04-01-2004 04:47 PM

the next bill will be closing down porn then the net.

tbabe 04-01-2004 04:49 PM

Move to canada

Rich 04-01-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
the next bill will be closing down porn then the net.
America won't be able to pull that off in a million years.

Edguy! 04-01-2004 04:51 PM

Most registration firms will register it with their address if you want them to...

Theo 04-01-2004 04:51 PM

nothing less than death penalty

AvanteGuard 04-01-2004 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe
Move to canada
Yep, i'm going.

tbabe 04-01-2004 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AvanteGuard


Yep, i'm going.

Our govt will take good care of you. Free health care, free housing, free money. Go Canada!

cold_ice 04-01-2004 04:53 PM

Could a person use a POBox?

sumphatpimp 04-01-2004 04:56 PM

IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

February 3, 2004

Mr. SMITH of Texas (for himself and Mr. BERMAN) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

A BILL

To provide additional civil and criminal remedies for domain name fraud.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.

This Act may be cited as the `Fraudulent Online Identity Sanctions Act'.

SEC. 2. AMENDMENT TO TRADEMARK ACT OF 1946.

Section 35 of the Act entitled `An Act to provide for the registration and protection of trademarks used in commerce, to carry out the provisions of certain international conventions, and for other purposes', approved July 5, 1946 (commonly referred to as the `Trademark Act of 1946'; 15 U.S.C. 1117), is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:

`(e) In a case of a violation referred to in this section, occurring at or in connection with an online location, the violation shall be considered to be willful for purposes of this section if the violator, or a person acting in concert with the violator, knowingly provided material and misleading false contact information to a domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority in registering a domain name used in connection with the online location, or in maintaining or renewing such registration.'.

SEC. 3. AMENDMENT TO TITLE 17, UNITED STATES CODE.

Section 504(c)(2) of title 17, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following new sentence: `In a case of infringement occurring at or in connection with an online location, the infringement shall be considered to be willful for purposes of this paragraph where the copyright owner sustains the burden of proving, and the court finds, that the infringer or a person acting in concert with the infringer knowingly provided material and misleading false contact information to a domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority in registering a domain name used in connection with the online location, or in maintaining or renewing such registration. For purposes of the preceding sentence, the term `domain name' has the meaning given that term in section 45 of the Act entitled `An Act to provide for the registration and protection of trademarks used in commerce, to carry out the provisions of certain international conventions, and for other purposes' approved July 5, 1946 (commonly referred to as the `Trademark Act of 1946'; 15 U.S.C. 1127).'.

SEC. 4. AMENDMENT TO TITLE 18, UNITED STATES CODE.

Section 3559 of title 18, United States Code, is amended by adding at the end the following:

`(f) Sentencing Enhancement for Falsification Relating to Domain Names in Connection With Offenses- The maximum imprisonment otherwise provided by law for a felony offense shall be increased by 7 years if, in furtherance of that offense, the defendant knowingly provided material and misleading false contact information to a domain name registrar, domain name registry, or other domain name registration authority in connection with a domain name registration. For purposes of this subsection, the term `domain name' has the meaning given that term in section 45 of the Act entitled `An Act to provide for the registration and protection of trademarks used in commerce, to carry out the provisions of certain international conventions, and for other purposes', approved July 5, 1946 (commonly referred to as the `Trademark Act of 1946'; 15 U.S.C. 1127).'.

mardigras 04-01-2004 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by cold_ice
Could a person use a POBox?
Yes (at least for now it qualifies as an authentic address), but you have to use your real name and phone number. I guess you could get a 2nd line or a voice mail account to comply with that.

420 04-01-2004 05:01 PM

sorry kids, the internet is closed for repairs

Rictor 04-01-2004 05:04 PM

My contact info is accurate so I'm not worried about it.

69pornlinks 04-01-2004 05:06 PM

haha 7 years what a joke

justfreemovies 04-01-2004 05:06 PM

my contact info points to my hosting company :) domain came free with my webhosting

DR_PHIL 04-01-2004 05:07 PM

damn how do i apply to be the guy that checks them out lol thats gotta be the biggest waste of time.

TheJimmy 04-01-2004 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by 69pornlinks
haha 7 years what a joke

except for the guy getting pounded in the ass for 7 years...

buddyjuf 04-01-2004 10:58 PM

holy fuck :helpme

Webby 04-01-2004 10:59 PM

What fucking banal conduct from a group of "supposed" adults!

They need locking up for their utter stupidity! Fuck their silly laws!

Oracle Porn 04-01-2004 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
nothing less than death penalty
:1orglaugh

Webby 04-01-2004 11:06 PM

I actually publish USC 2257 bullshit on websites, simpley because it is not unreasonable...

Now... that is being removed and the last server is departing the US. I am not "obligated" to any sodding US laws - tis just too pathetic.

:321GFY

Gemini 04-01-2004 11:20 PM

Did they quit teaching conprehension in school nowadays or what??

Read it closer... this is pertaining to the people that are breaking copyright and/or trademark rights violations in connection to fraudulent whois information.

Yes Cold... you CAN use a PO Box.

masta flash 04-01-2004 11:22 PM

i'm confused. so does the goverment own domain names? If they dont, how could they enforce it?

jimboc 04-01-2004 11:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by masta flash
i'm confused. so does the goverment own domain names? If they dont, how could they enforce it?
Do they own airwaves?

Do they own water?

rounders 04-01-2004 11:34 PM

assed out!

Webby 04-01-2004 11:35 PM

Gemini:

Quote:

Did they quit teaching conprehension in school nowadays or what??

Read it closer... this is pertaining to the people that are breaking copyright and/or trademark rights violations in connection to fraudulent whois information.
It does not matter the reason... I have no problem either way with WHOIS info... but I sure ain't going to be "obliged" because the US government decides I should be - I don't live under the Section 504(c)(2) of title 17, United States Code.

Most of rest of the world has "values of freedom" and stays out of your face.

Illicit 04-01-2004 11:35 PM

I have a bunch of domains using private registrations... I think its the only way to go if you care about your privacy.

exspamr 04-01-2004 11:36 PM

how gay... how fucking gay

digifan 04-01-2004 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
the next bill will be closing down porn then the net.
:helpme

jimboc 04-01-2004 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Webby
Gemini:



It does not matter the reason... I have no problem either way with WHOIS info... but I sure ain't going to be "obliged" because the US government decides I should be - I don't live under the Section 504(c)(2) of title 17, United States Code.

Most of rest of the world has "values of freedom" and stays out of your face.

Has that one not been revoked yet, yay you still have 1 freedom!:1orglaugh wooooooooooooo:thumbsup

Webby 04-01-2004 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SoundMan
the next bill will be closing down porn then the net.
:1orglaugh

Tis amazing shit! The media is fucked... the place is lied to on a daily basis (sorry.. not lied... more "decieved" - they are smarter than to lie outright), there are more fucked up laws than any country on the planet (and more in jail because of it) - it's a joke!

All the bullshit with VISA is another example - the only country in the world that accepted some corporation's "rules" on "how it will be". It is amazing someone ain't shot the lot of em!! :1orglaugh

What the fuck happened to your freedoms US?? It used to be sane!

Webby 04-01-2004 11:50 PM

jimboc:

Quote:

Has that one not been revoked yet, yay you still have 1 freedom!
I suppose I'm lucky... I anticipated bullshit years back and structured stuff to suit - and it sadly seems to be turning out true. Tis sad to look in and see the crap and also surprising people "accept" it.

I got LOADS more freedom now!! :thumbsup

Gemini 04-01-2004 11:51 PM

Webby... just so! YOU don't have to sweat the US Law. Oz will make their own real soon now. Just watch. ;-) THEN you will have to worry about it. All the Western Countries will adopt the same or very similar laws pertaining to the net.

This one just closes a loophole in the trademark and copyrighht laws (They are INTERNATIONAL Treaties btw). They should have passed these years ago.

Now the Hun won't have to do more than tell the US Authorities if someone breaks his trademark and he will get the domain at least pulled. Before he might have to spend serious money to gight in a civil court. Now it might be a criminal situation.

But again the law (as it reads in that quote from the propsed bill) pertains ONLY to people with false info that are ALSO commiting fraud.

As it stands and will still stand in the normal false info case, they will give you a chance to fix it and then take the domain/s away if you don't.

shermo 04-01-2004 11:52 PM

At least they're cracking down on the real problems that are bringing this country down! :1orglaugh

jayeff 04-01-2004 11:55 PM

On the face of it, if you have nothing to hide, there is no reason not to provide the correct information and it is crazy that crooked webmasters are allowed anonymity that makes it harder for their victims to seek redress.

But the next time some local politico wants to grab himself some headlines, what's to stop him trawling WHOIS for webmasters to prosecute? Anyone remember the old ZMaster ban list or notice that CE Cash's DVD rental program has a whole list of zipcodes to which they will not deliver:
https://www.urentdvds.com/zipcodes.html

You can bet all those places have laws someone could resurrect to grab some pre-election publicity. I hope that when (because it will surely happen sooner rather than later) domain registration does require valid information, there will also be privacy provisions.

The Sex Pusher 04-01-2004 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tbabe


Our govt will take good care of you. Free health care, free housing, free money. Go Canada!

WTF part of canada do you live in ? Fairytaleville ?

Healthcare is dead in canada. Many hospitals go on strike ( this means if you chop your finger off, it may be free but you might wait 3 days to get it sewed back on, most likely losing your finger in the meantime )

Free housing ?? Huh we have never had social housing or any other sort of free housing program..

Free money ?? Send me the address to the free money store please..

Canada is a cleaner bigger america nothing more nothing less.

Webby 04-02-2004 12:05 AM

Gemini:

Quote:

Webby... just so! YOU don't have to sweat the US Law. Oz will make their own real soon now. Just watch. ;-) THEN you will have to worry about it. All the Western Countries will adopt the same or very similar laws pertaining to the net.

This one just closes a loophole in the trademark and copyrighht laws (They are INTERNATIONAL Treaties btw).
Oz?? *g* Na.. I've chosen better than Oz!

I agree.. there is nothing wrong with clamping down on violations of copyright, but I can't see many "civilized" countries actually thinking of imposing seven (?) year jail sentences on anyone for some WHOIS info when they already have enough on the books to lock em up for copyright violations anyway!! They heading for a 40 year jail term? :-)

Other thing is... not that I'd screw anyone over on their copyright, - there are many countries which do not take copyright laws seriously - they show a "face" to them and nothing more. It is only the "civilized world/high tax regime countries" which jump up and down over this. I suppose it's them who have a problem.

*g* I sat and watched a movie on TV the other night ... at the end, up pops this notice "Report duplications of this video to the FBI" :-) Fuck me.. the TV stations are showing ripped off videos next!

On US laws.. na.. I have little against stuff like 2257 - the US is the only country that has this and it is not unreasonable. But hell.. I ain't giving a shit about WHOIS info next! :-)

stephanie m. 04-02-2004 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by shermsshack
At least they're cracking down on the real problems that are bringing this country down! :1orglaugh

yup:thumbsup


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