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Miura 11-14-2006 04:32 PM

I'm taking legal action against myVirtualCard/Paymonde. Who wants in?
 
Remember Merchsolutions? I took action last time this happened and managed to get my money. See this thread to refresh your memories:
http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...merchsolutions

For Merchsol I got a lawyer, aussie police, and other authorities involved (can't say more but my arm is pretty long) and it gave results.

I've been processing with MVC/Paymonde for the past 2 years with no issues until today. I even got paid last week and the week before.

email porn at pamporn dot com and lets regroup and go after these guys as well.
We might not get paid, but they won't get away with our hard earned cash. I'll get things going once again.

Bashers please keep away, thank you.

Barefootsies 11-14-2006 04:47 PM

The gents and myself provided a nice collective list of info for you, and your lawyer to track down Nort, Howie, and Joey.

:thumbsup

DutchTeenCash 11-14-2006 04:47 PM

bump for a good idea

jacklaidlaw 11-14-2006 04:49 PM

good luck

Miura 11-14-2006 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 11314868)
The gents and myself provided a nice collective list of info for you, and your lawyer to track down Nort, Howie, and Joey.

:thumbsup

I did notice that and will use all of the info you guys managed to dig out on them. Excellent work.

Barefootsies 11-14-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11314898)
I did notice that and will use all of the info you guys managed to dig out on them. Excellent work.

Yeah, I would have to say that was a rather deep rabbit hole of shams, scams, and frauds once you had gotten to digging.

Miura 11-14-2006 06:15 PM

Has anybody heard of an Alex Karin at paymonde sales? He called me three days ago offering me a merchant account. Said I'd be approved in 1 week and that all payouts would be sent out. He's also the one who told me Joshua and Howard were there with him in the office but I am pretty sure that that was a lie. I know for a fact that Joshua wasn't there that day so Alex Karin lied to me. I'd like to get his personal info and find out in what way he's implicate in this story.

ModelPerfect 11-14-2006 06:37 PM

I'm on board, if you need some help. BTW, Joshua himself directed me to this thread. I pretty sure he's not mixed up in this.

HighSociety 11-14-2006 06:40 PM

add me to the list

Miura 11-14-2006 06:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ModelPerfect (Post 11315607)
I'm on board, if you need some help. BTW, Joshua himself directed me to this thread. I pretty sure he's not mixed up in this.

I am pretty sure as well. He's supplying me with official corp. docs to justify himself and he sure sounds honest to me. Can't say more for now but I trust he's honest.

marketsmart 11-14-2006 06:46 PM

well thats an idea!

NikkiVicious 11-14-2006 06:47 PM

They didn't steal much from me, but I'll help in any way that I can.

*sigh* I wish my first post here wouldn't have been in this form, but thanks for someone taking action.

baddog 11-14-2006 06:49 PM

Miura is a man of action . . . that much I can vouch for.

Miura 11-14-2006 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by baddog (Post 11315659)
Miura is a man of action . . . that much I can vouch for.

Thanks for the good word my friend :thumbsup

Miura 11-14-2006 07:26 PM

Has anybody contacted the Montreal Police / RCMP yet or not relating to this issue? Is yes, please share the info. Thank you.

123Roman 11-14-2006 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11315638)
I am pretty sure as well. He's supplying me with official corp. docs to justify himself and he sure sounds honest to me. Can't say more for now but I trust he's honest.

Like i have been saying...josh is good guy...he was my rep at mvc...he left there in june over summer...him and me had a good connection...he was going back for studies...I liked him alot, and think that he had nothing to do with it...he seemed to be very honest with me...:2 cents:

Webby 11-14-2006 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11315902)
Has anybody contacted the Montreal Police / RCMP yet or not relating to this issue? Is yes, please share the info. Thank you.

This is not the place to get into detail like that :) Bets on, this board is being monitored by those involved.

Kimo 11-14-2006 10:01 PM

good luck dude, get those fuckers!

Miura 11-15-2006 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Webby (Post 11316153)
This is not the place to get into detail like that :) Bets on, this board is being monitored by those involved.

You're right Webby. Whoever did call authorities, please be kind enough to inform me by e-mail. Just want to make sure we are all hitting at the right door.

Time is very important at this stage. I can't post details of what will be done because I don't want the guys at paymonde to know beforehand but I will post the info afterwards, just like I did with merchsol...

I don't think there is criminal intent on their behalf because its not their type but since they are not informing us I'd rather act now then feel sorry later.

I think they pulled down the site because of the chargebacks/cancellations. By doing so, merchants are sucking down their own holdback funds which are probably blocked by the bank for 6 months. I don't see how howard can run away with it since its not available and the total dollar amount would barely pay him one year's rent. Too little to risk so much jail time. The current processing amounts released represent only 50% of the holbacks so its little money. They need to come forward with a statement. In my world, silence is guilt.

Merchsolutions paid me.
NexusXI paid me the 8k they owed me after 8 months. Honest guys!
Probilling paid after 7 months.
2000charge paid after 7 months. Good CIE.
I never used ibill. Sorry for those who did.
Globosale never paid me. Swiss bank laws made it impossible to track.
Globill, I never used them.

I think its a good track record considering the events and it does show the possibility that my statement is correct. We'll find out soon enough.

gooddomains 11-15-2006 03:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11318616)
You're right Webby. Whoever did call authorities, please be kind enough to inform me by e-mail. Just want to make sure we are all hitting at the right door.

Time is very important at this stage. I can't post details of what will be done because I don't want the guys at paymonde to know beforehand but I will post the info afterwards, just like I did with merchsol...

I don't think there is criminal intent on their behalf because its not their type but since they are not informing us I'd rather act now then feel sorry later.

I think they pulled down the site because of the chargebacks/cancellations. By doing so, merchants are sucking down their own holdback funds which are probably blocked by the bank for 6 months. I don't see how howard can run away with it since its not available and the total dollar amount would barely pay him one year's rent. Too little to risk so much jail time. The current processing amounts released represent only 50% of the holbacks so its little money. They need to come forward with a statement. In my world, silence is guilt.

Merchsolutions paid me.
NexusXI paid me the 8k they owed me after 8 months. Honest guys!
Probilling paid after 7 months.
2000charge paid after 7 months. Good CIE.
I never used ibill. Sorry for those who did.
Globosale never paid me. Swiss bank laws made it impossible to track.
Globill, I never used them.

I think its a good track record considering the events and it does show the possibility that my statement is correct. We'll find out soon enough.

Not good that I remember all these companies....

nata25 11-15-2006 05:05 AM

Miura: add me as well, email sent to you

AdultEUhost 11-15-2006 05:27 AM

bump for good idea!

pentae 11-15-2006 05:53 AM

bump. gl guys

Miura 11-15-2006 06:01 AM

They just rebilled 2 of my members! They are pretty shameless.

kscans 11-15-2006 01:40 PM

Paymonde
 
https://www.myvirtualcard.com/Merchants/frame.php

ADMIN PAGE DOESNT wORK ANYMORE

They have screwed up all of us !

Shit !

Take care guys !

Kind regards

www.Kcash.biz

Theo 11-15-2006 02:26 PM

dont forget to remind to authorities you were/are selling videos you don't hold any copyrights.

iCandys 11-15-2006 04:00 PM

I emailed you but it bounced back... the email addy was right though, do you have another one I could use? Or are you calling off the hunt with the recent discovery of their message on the Merchant access url?

RegUser 11-15-2006 04:56 PM

Well, it looks like they have run away after all
The question is what can we do?
They can not keep on rebilling clients....that is a very serious problem.
Has anyone infromed VISA?
Has anyone even registred a case?
or all we have is lot of clinched fists and plenty of hot air?

RegUser 11-15-2006 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11318616)
You're right Webby. Whoever did call authorities, please be kind enough to inform me by e-mail. Just want to make sure we are all hitting at the right door.

Time is very important at this stage. I can't post details of what will be done because I don't want the guys at paymonde to know beforehand but I will post the info afterwards, just like I did with merchsol...

I don't think there is criminal intent on their behalf because its not their type but since they are not informing us I'd rather act now then feel sorry later.

I think they pulled down the site because of the chargebacks/cancellations. By doing so, merchants are sucking down their own holdback funds which are probably blocked by the bank for 6 months. I don't see how howard can run away with it since its not available and the total dollar amount would barely pay him one year's rent. Too little to risk so much jail time. The current processing amounts released represent only 50% of the holbacks so its little money. They need to come forward with a statement. In my world, silence is guilt.

Merchsolutions paid me.
NexusXI paid me the 8k they owed me after 8 months. Honest guys!
Probilling paid after 7 months.
2000charge paid after 7 months. Good CIE.
I never used ibill. Sorry for those who did.
Globosale never paid me. Swiss bank laws made it impossible to track.
Globill, I never used them.

I think its a good track record considering the events and it does show the possibility that my statement is correct. We'll find out soon enough.


Their track record was good in my case as well but i think all this hot talk in past few days have made their castle collapse so most likely they have bailed out or are still wondering what to do?
Nexusxi was an exceptional firm, and when they went down, they sent an email within 72-96 hours that they will pay. And for sure after 8 months, out of the blue, they send another email with the money.
I am not so sure this will happen again.
you have to remeber that even they were not approcahed by any legal authorities as far as I know.
Unless some action is taken all this will simply be wasting one's breath over a great theft and tragedy

RegUser 11-15-2006 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11318616)
You're right Webby. Whoever did call authorities, please be kind enough to inform me by e-mail. Just want to make sure we are all hitting at the right door.

Time is very important at this stage. I can't post details of what will be done because I don't want the guys at paymonde to know beforehand but I will post the info afterwards, just like I did with merchsol...

I don't think there is criminal intent on their behalf because its not their type but since they are not informing us I'd rather act now then feel sorry later.

I think they pulled down the site because of the chargebacks/cancellations. By doing so, merchants are sucking down their own holdback funds which are probably blocked by the bank for 6 months. I don't see how howard can run away with it since its not available and the total dollar amount would barely pay him one year's rent. Too little to risk so much jail time. The current processing amounts released represent only 50% of the holbacks so its little money. They need to come forward with a statement. In my world, silence is guilt.

Merchsolutions paid me.
NexusXI paid me the 8k they owed me after 8 months. Honest guys!
Probilling paid after 7 months.
2000charge paid after 7 months. Good CIE.
I never used ibill. Sorry for those who did.
Globosale never paid me. Swiss bank laws made it impossible to track.
Globill, I never used them.

I think its a good track record considering the events and it does show the possibility that my statement is correct. We'll find out soon enough.


Their track record was good in my case as well but i think all this hot talk in past few days have made their castle collapse so most likely they have bailed out or are still wondering what to do?
Nexusxi was an exceptional firm, and when they went down, they sent an email within 72-96 hours that they will pay. And for sure after 8 months, out of the blue, they send another email with the money.
I am not so sure this will happen again.
you have to remeber that even they were not approcahed by any legal authorities as far as I know.
Unless some action is taken all this will simply be wasting one's breath over a great theft and tragedy

ukxtra 11-15-2006 05:15 PM

You've probably seen this already but here it is for those who haven't XBiz News Story

RegUser 11-15-2006 06:18 PM

This is bloddy so shameless
these crooks are still rebilling users
they are also still accepting new subscriptions
can someone tell me how to inform VISA
I cant let these crooks get even more money

Snake Doctor 11-15-2006 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukxtra (Post 11322993)
You've probably seen this already but here it is for those who haven't XBiz News Story

The moral of the story is don't ever do business with anyone named "Cohen"

RegUser 11-15-2006 06:26 PM

if anyone gets any communication from these idiots, email or phone, please let us know as well
also if anyone gets any wire or check....LOL

I should not be laughing though....i have over 8K lying with them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Barefootsies 11-15-2006 06:35 PM

Thanks to the original poster. :thumbsup

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MONTREAL ? Third-party payment processor Paymonde has officially gone out of business, CEO Howard Cohen told XBIZ. The company?s demise came after its bank in the Philippines lost acquiring rights to process Mastercard transactions.

?We weren?t left with much of a choice but to go out of business,? Cohen said. ?We have not received payment from the bank, and until we do so, I cannot pay what is owed out of my own pocket. I?m fed up with being beaten up on the webmaster boards. We?re trying to do our best in what is a shitty situation for everyone involved.?

The bank owes Paymonde three weeks of payments and had promised him a settlement Friday, but has still not made good, Cohen said. Cohen could not offer a timetable for webmasters to hear about money owed.

?I want to let everyone know I?m not running away,? Cohen said. ?I?d like to thank all the webmasters that did business with us over five years for their trust and support. I feel terrible for all involved. I?m not a crook. Paymonde is not iBill.?

Cohen promised to evaluate each one of Paymonde?s merchant accounts ?on their own merits.? He said the company is planning to contact every webmaster that is owed money about their financial status, including the amount they are owed.

?What I hate about this whole situation is people on the boards calling me a thief and a scumbag,? Cohen said. ?We tried to take care of all of our clients. I know many of them personally. We were at the shows. We never hid from anybody. We charged lesser percentage [per transaction] than others. And also, everyone should know the big guys like Paycom or CCBill are not immune to this. If their processing gets pulled, how can they pay??

While the Paymonde website is down, Cohen said the company will allow clients into their backend to check on their financial status if they contact him by email.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18162

Mediachick 11-15-2006 06:36 PM

For a case like this one, I dont think the police would get involved: im wondering if you guys could have a 'collective complaint' against them in court instead.

Sorry for the bad terms, I only know them in French; but for a money case, since you are alot of ppl with actual evidences and records of your transactions (I believe) I think someone locally here should ask for a juridic advice from an attorney from here and then know how to proceed; I have once went against a school to be refunded trough small claims although they wouldnt take a 'collective complaint' even if other students were claiming the same story. It also depends on how much we are talking here and how many ppl are gonna get involved... Good luck all.

123Roman 11-15-2006 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miura (Post 11318616)
...Time is very important at this stage.

miura, funds2go still operates now...it is being operated by jolloyjoe (joey bransky)...i think they transfer over funds2go to bransky to protect it...is that legal in canada?

for example, if someone is about to sue me, can i sell friend my house for $1 to protect my house? this same thing cohen burah and bransky did with funds2go and paymonde...

whoever suing them should include paymonde and funds2go and cohen bura and brasnky in law suit...

csturbo 11-15-2006 09:27 PM

Anyone know why Paymonde went out of business? Is it because of chargebacks?

fr0gman 11-15-2006 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by csturbo (Post 11324315)
Anyone know why Paymonde went out of business? Is it because of chargebacks?

Because they are asshats.

They fucked me last year. This sounds like class action time. Count me in.

Webby 11-15-2006 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Barefootsies (Post 11323330)
?What I hate about this whole situation is people on the boards calling me a thief and a scumbag,? Cohen said. ?We tried to take care of all of our clients. I know many of them personally. We were at the shows. We never hid from anybody. We charged lesser percentage [per transaction] than others. And also, everyone should know the big guys like Paycom or CCBill are not immune to this. If their processing gets pulled, how can they pay??

While the Paymonde website is down, Cohen said the company will allow clients into their backend to check on their financial status if they contact him by email.

http://xbiz.com/news_piece.php?id=18162

OK... If you are reading this board Howard - First, your company failed to answer email and phone calls. Some call that hiding. You failed to take care of your clients and simply closed the doors. Up to this time you still have not contacted those clients. This conduct clearly would raise concern among clients - what else do you expect?

Contingency plans play a major role - not only in any biz, but with offering financial services. Clearly there were no contingency plans.

Now you are suggesting a client needs to contact you by email to gain access to their financial data? Why is that???

PS As aside.. who exactly is "Paymonde"? Is it an LLC, S.A, Limited Company? You even had clients signing up under an unknown entity called "Paymonde". Hell.. you need a lawyer who can drafted a basic contract. I give up on crap.


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