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SPACE GLIDER 05-26-2007 10:58 PM

Chuck Liddell ... who DIDN'T see this coming?
 
Anyone disagree with the ref's decision to end the bout? Rampage has agreed to fight Chuck again if anyone disputes the call.

BT 05-26-2007 11:05 PM

he was out. he would have broke his cranium with those blows.

BlueWire 05-27-2007 01:43 AM

he looked a little soft to me? A few extra sixers perhaps? :upsidedow

SPACE GLIDER 05-28-2007 12:57 AM

I thougt Chuck was outmatched from the start, but in this bout he didn't seem himself.

NTSS 05-28-2007 01:08 AM

It was a good call by the ref to stop it. Chuck was on his back and defenseless when he took a serious blow to the head. He would have be knocked unconscious had it continued.

rapmaster 05-28-2007 01:38 AM

Well, I didn't see it coming. lol

starpimps 05-28-2007 01:50 AM

chuck was out, rampage would have done a number on his face if it wasnt stopped...i presume the rematch is more about money than an unfair decision

Swish 05-28-2007 02:12 AM

Fuck that shit! Can't wait for a rematch. Chuck was out, but that was a terrible fight. An early mistake and it was over. I'd like to see an actual battle, not a lucky circumstancial win... ;(

SPACE GLIDER 05-29-2007 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 12499533)
Fuck that shit! Can't wait for a rematch. Chuck was out, but that was a terrible fight. An early mistake and it was over. I'd like to see an actual battle, not a lucky circumstancial win... ;(

I think the early mistake was Chuck agreeing to this fight

markz08 05-29-2007 12:49 AM

chuck flattened out and the Ref saw it, its a justifiable decision for me...

VexXxed 05-29-2007 02:13 AM

Jackson has Lidell's number. Future bouts will play out the same... Very similar to how RJJ couldn't do anything except run from Tarver.

kane 05-29-2007 03:01 AM

Was it me or did Chuck look like he was a little out of shape. Not that it would have helped him survive that punch, but I wonder if Chuck took Rampage a little too lightly and didn't train and focus as hard as he could have.

ADL Josh 05-29-2007 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Swish (Post 12499533)
Fuck that shit! Can't wait for a rematch. Chuck was out, but that was a terrible fight. An early mistake and it was over. I'd like to see an actual battle, not a lucky circumstancial win... ;(

i agree with ya there..that was more like a lucky punch, they'll definitely fight again soon!

Jim_Gunn 05-29-2007 08:22 AM

Chuck was out, good stoppage by the ref, as Joe Rogan always says. Karo Parisyan looked great in his bout, that was the fight of the night.

WebTitan 05-29-2007 08:23 AM

he was out and it should have been stopped

MikeVega 05-29-2007 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ADL Josh (Post 12506418)
i agree with ya there..that was more like a lucky punch, they'll definitely fight again soon!

Chuck always has a bit of a belly. It's just his body type. as for the punch .. That's not luck. Chuck expected him to cover up when hit and instead he kept his cool and laid a shot on his chin. That's what he's trained to do. counter punch .. most guys are so afraid to get hit by chuck that they cover up and run for cover.

Pinklinkz 05-29-2007 08:58 AM

soon as chucks arms went down it was stopped
who does he think he is .. Rocky Balboa

Rules state the fight is stopped when you stop defending yourself

Lance69 05-29-2007 09:21 AM

Chuck was as limp as overcooked spaghetti. There is no question. If the ref let go after that he shoulda been fired. Good call.

ChopperBoy 05-29-2007 09:29 AM

Lucky punch and bad call from Big John, oh kinda ironic he was also the ref in the first match that ended by ref stoppage isn't it. I am however glad that ref's do stop fights when they feel the fighter may be in a bad position but then again chuck did go 1.5 rounds last time with rampage thats 15 minutes for those who never seen a PRIDE fight, and he did get his hands back up after flattening as the ref pulled him off so whos to say what would have happened but i think the rematch will be a great fight. I hate to see any championship fight end like that.

OG LennyT 05-29-2007 09:39 AM

good call to end it.. Chuck was smoked like a cheap cigar.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-29-2007 09:40 AM

i guess some of you forgot about this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=JzqSWiSyewo

liddell didnt stand a chance against someone like rampage

fight should have never happened

TonyL 05-29-2007 09:41 AM

It was a good stoppage. With that fight it was first to land a clean shot was getting the win. Rampage got the first clean shot in this fight.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-29-2007 09:47 AM

in case you guys forgot who rampage is

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Qi-OOobrs30

CDSmith 05-29-2007 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER (Post 12495090)
who DIDN'T see this coming?

Chuck, obviously.

If he did he would have ducked. :D

pigbait75 05-29-2007 09:56 AM

I think it was a setup by dana white the whole thing reminded me of a certian shamrock/franklin fight that went exactly the same way. they may be hitting each other for real but if you think they dont know whos winning the match before it starts you probably still watch wrestling.

Lance69 05-29-2007 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopperBoy (Post 12506755)
Lucky punch and bad call from Big John, oh kinda ironic he was also the ref in the first match that ended by ref stoppage isn't it. I am however glad that ref's do stop fights when they feel the fighter may be in a bad position but then again chuck did go 1.5 rounds last time with rampage thats 15 minutes for those who never seen a PRIDE fight, and he did get his hands back up after flattening as the ref pulled him off so whos to say what would have happened but i think the rematch will be a great fight. I hate to see any championship fight end like that.

http://www.livevideo.com/video/Shinr...ton-jacks.aspx

You may wanna watch this again. His arms and legs flattened completely out. This happens when you are losing consciousness, therefore he cannot defend. Period... that's out. Anything after that was pure instinct. Chuck was done.

And Lucky punch my ass, look Rampages form, constantly moving his arms to protect his head depending on his position, Liddell had his hands near at his sides, Rampage took advantage of a known hole in Liddells game and made him pay for it. Lucky Punch...:1orglaugh

ChopperBoy 05-29-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance69 (Post 12506966)
http://www.livevideo.com/video/Shinr...ton-jacks.aspx

You may wanna watch this again. His arms and legs flattened completely out. This happens when you are losing consciousness, therefore he cannot defend. Period... that's out. Anything after that was pure instinct. Chuck was done.

Oh i don't gotta watch it again i saw it saturday night. Also I stated my opinion and that is what it is, if you do not like it do not read it, sounds simple doesn't it.

SxDx 05-29-2007 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pigbait75 (Post 12506958)
I think it was a setup by dana white the whole thing reminded me of a certian shamrock/franklin fight that went exactly the same way. they may be hitting each other for real but if you think they dont know whos winning the match before it starts you probably still watch wrestling.

nobody would choose, agree to or be paid to take those unprotected shots that liddell took after he fell to the mat. too risky.

ajrocks 05-29-2007 10:02 AM

It made me sad in the pants.

pussyserver - BANNED FOR LIFE 05-29-2007 10:10 AM

rampage has beat this sissy before see my post above from their 2003 fight

media 05-29-2007 10:14 AM

We printed out like 500 shirts for the iceman...

rocketrich 05-29-2007 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPACE GLIDER (Post 12495090)
Anyone disagree with the ref's decision to end the bout? Rampage has agreed to fight Chuck again if anyone disputes the call.

Chuck's body went to sleep for a second, thats enough for the ref to stop the fight. Dont forget, rampage is allowed elbowing his opponent, thats exactly what would have taken place had the ref not stopped the fight.

pigbait75 05-29-2007 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by SxDx (Post 12506999)
nobody would choose, agree to or be paid to take those unprotected shots that liddell took after he fell to the mat. too risky.

your telling me for a 6 figures you wouldnt let someone punch your face in when there is a ref there to keep you from being seriously hurt your insane:winkwink:

dynastoned 05-29-2007 10:49 AM

im a chuck fan and he just got knocked the fuck out. he doesn't match up well with rampage because chuck likes to stay on the outside and poke around picking spots. rampage keeps coming forward making chuck move more then he likes. then if chuck tries to throw some shots rampage starts to exchange with him unlike most fighters. rampage just has his number and i think if they had another rematch there would be a similar outcome.

Martin3 05-29-2007 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopperBoy (Post 12506755)
Lucky punch and bad call from Big John, oh kinda ironic he was also the ref in the first match that ended by ref stoppage isn't it. I am however glad that ref's do stop fights when they feel the fighter may be in a bad position but then again chuck did go 1.5 rounds last time with rampage thats 15 minutes for those who never seen a PRIDE fight, and he did get his hands back up after flattening as the ref pulled him off so whos to say what would have happened but i think the rematch will be a great fight. I hate to see any championship fight end like that.

Bad call? I guess you missed the part where Liddell was grabbing for Rampage's legs when he was already about 10ft. away. Or when he turn to his trainer and asked "What happened?" because he didn't know. Yeah, bad call.... :1orglaugh

Wasn't a lucky punch either. Counter right hook to a left to the body is classic boxing.

Anthony 05-29-2007 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopperBoy (Post 12506993)
Oh i don't gotta watch it again i saw it saturday night. Also I stated my opinion and that is what it is, if you do not like it do not read it, sounds simple doesn't it.

Chopperboy = Clueless

Lance69 = Trained MMA Fighter

Your opinion really doesn't hold much water.

So you can look like you have a clue when it comes to fighting, I posted this in another thread. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showthread.php?t=736807

Quote:

For those of you who said Chuck didn't take this fight seriously, you are wrong.

This was one of Chuck's paybacks, and even Hackleman, Chuck's trainer said he was focused on winning.

So let me educate you on what happened, so that you can all tell your friends with authority how Rampage won.

Chuck is a counter puncher. He baits his oppoents to follow him, then cuts an angle, and counter punches. All of Chuck's best knockouts have been when he out manuevered his opponents and got a punch or kick from the sides.

Rampage knows this. If you re watch the fight, you can see Quinton does not move forward or back, he moves left to right, which is called cutting the cage off.

Chuck is not known for his aggressive jabs, and his whole game went to shit. Chuck threw a hook that Rampage ducked under, and returned with his own, which knocked Chuck down.

The subsequent elbow, then 1st punch knocked Chuck out, the 2nd punch, woke him back up, but then John McCarthy stopped the fight.

Lance69 05-29-2007 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ChopperBoy (Post 12506993)
Oh i don't gotta watch it again i saw it saturday night. Also I stated my opinion and that is what it is, if you do not like it do not read it, sounds simple doesn't it.

Everyone is entitled their opinion. But if your gonna post on a public forum then expect some feedback. :2 cents:

Great Quote Anthony.

High Plains Drifter 05-29-2007 11:42 AM

Anthony is on point as usual, but let me add a couple of things.

Chuck is a counterpuncher with lateral movements that give most guys fits, like Couture, because they're straight punchers that move backwards and forwards. The key to that KO punch by Rampage is that it was a right HOOK, which is the perfect response to lateral movement. First time Chuck had fought somebody with a good boxing hook since, oh, Rampage in '04 and he never saw that punch coming.

Here's a question for you long time MMA junkies:

Who thinks Anderson Silva could take out Rampage? I think he could.

Anthony 05-29-2007 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Lance69 (Post 12507618)
Everyone is entitled their opinion. But if your gonna post on a public forum then expect some feedback. :2 cents:

Great Quote Anthony.

Cheers.

I have been a fan of MMA from the beginning. I am happy it's finally become mainstream.

With that, you get people like Chipper boy who doesn't spouts off facts like nothing, but is totally wrong about each one.

No, Jon McCarthy was not the ref in their first fight, it was a short Japanese fellow, I can see how you made the mistake. :1orglaugh

It wasn't even in the same Org, how Chipper managed to miss the fact the first fight was in a ring, and the UFC is in a cage is beyond me.

But hey, he's entitled to his own opinions, even when wrong.

Anthony 05-29-2007 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by High Plains Drifter (Post 12507707)
Anthony is on point as usual, but let me add a couple of things.

Chuck is a counterpuncher with lateral movements that give most guys fits, like Couture, because they're straight punchers that move backwards and forwards. The key to that KO punch by Rampage is that it was a right HOOK, which is the perfect response to lateral movement. First time Chuck had fought somebody with a good boxing hook since, oh, Rampage in '04 and he never saw that punch coming.

Here's a question for you long time MMA junkies:

Who thinks Anderson Silva could take out Rampage? I think he could.

Why not, the whole Chute Boxe team should all have a turn on him. Even former members. :)

The two major losses for Rampage have been by really good Muay Thai guys. Wanderlai Silva and Shogun. Both took Ramapage's game apart with their knees.

It's getting them to meet at a weight that's the key. :thumbsup


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