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spacedog 09-02-2007 07:49 PM

anyone know how long theuncensored.com/Joes Traffic has been sending surfers to ZANGO
 
Anyone have an idea how long this has been going on?

Just curious.. fucking pisses me off to have sent clean, english speaking visitors off to become infected.

nosey 09-02-2007 07:51 PM

sig spot

xclusive 09-02-2007 07:52 PM

Well that sucks

pornask 09-02-2007 07:53 PM

Somebody fill a newb in. What's Zango and why should I be concerned?

PS - I'm one of the traffic traders with the uncensored. Should I be alarmed?

Tempest 09-02-2007 07:55 PM

He promotes AFF, Cams and Zango... Standup guy... he should win Bro of the year. People need to stop sending him traffic...

evildick 09-02-2007 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13024338)
Somebody fill a newb in. What's Zango and why should I be concerned?

PS - I'm one of the traffic traders with the uncensored. Should I be alarmed?

This sums up things pretty well.

LINK

will76 09-02-2007 08:10 PM

If you are an affiliate of any adult or mainstream programs and you send any of your traffic to zango you are about as smart as a fucking rock.

Martin3 09-02-2007 08:16 PM

Should be surprised, he use to sell ad spots to Drive Cleaner(spyware/adware)

AdPatron 09-02-2007 08:26 PM

They bought traffic from me, and I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. If people have a problem with them, contact me. It's not like I can't be reached or consoled.

crockett 09-02-2007 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024412)
They bought traffic from me, and I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. If people have a problem with them, contact me. It's not like I can't be reached or consoled.

So are you going to kill it or what? I'm trading will you and I'd like to know.

DaddyHalbucks 09-02-2007 08:29 PM

Yea, you won't make webmaster friends if you promote Zango.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by crockett (Post 13024425)
So are you going to kill it or what? I'm trading will you and I'd like to know.



You haven't contacted me to say there is a problem. NO ONE has.

DaddyHalbucks 09-02-2007 08:32 PM

I guess it's a problem.

baddog 09-02-2007 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024429)
You haven't contacted me to say there is a problem. NO ONE has.

:1orglaugh

will76 09-02-2007 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pornask (Post 13024338)
Somebody fill a newb in. What's Zango and why should I be concerned?

PS - I'm one of the traffic traders with the uncensored. Should I be alarmed?


Let me explain how zango works:

They pay people by the install. They install "adware" on to people's computers. They call it adware, even though they have admitted that several of their affiliates have downloaded it onto other people's pcs without their consent.

They give you bullshit games or porn to offer to people for free, only if that person downloads zango's crap. Now he is the kicker when you download their shit in the fine print it says you agree to allow zango to run shit on your pc that will pop up windows when you surf the net. Their software will run on your PC 24/7 in the background, and it will detect what is in your browser. So if a url like " ifriends" is in your browser window their software will detect that and pop up a new IE window over your window with one of your competitors.

There best way to explain it is with an example: I pay .50 a click for google adwords. Someone clicks my adwords link and goes to my website. This surfer cost me .50 Unfortunetly this person has zango on their pc, so when they click the link on my site that says " SIGN UP HERE NOW" (which goes to ifriends.com) Zango will detect this and instantly pop up a full screen new window over mine. The page that pops up is SexBankRoll's site 18oncam.com (FUCK YOU SEXBANKROLL). So I pay for the surfer (.50 a click), I pay for the bandwidth, I sell the person with my site/ads, and then when the peson clicks to signup he thinks the page that comes up is the page I was sending him to. So he ends up on 18oncam.com and signs up with them. I have ZERO chance at the sale. All of my traffic is hijacked by SexBankRoll because they are bidding on ifriend's domain names via ZANGO.

It is stealing at it's worse. You have a nieve surfer downloading something without reading all the fine print. The fucking surfer doesn't want popups every couple mins. No way would they download something that would give them popups all the time. Secondly, the surfer clicked on MY LINK! they wanted to go to the page I WAS SENDING THEM TOO, not some random sponsor who is bidding on MY FUCKING TRAFFIC.

Zango has had something like 80 Million downloads. I forget exactly but it is a LOT. Once zango is on the surfers PC you have ZERO chance at making sales. They target all the big adult AND mainstream sites. So you are wasting your money, and buying traffic for someone else to steal it from you.

Zango has been fined by the FTC for 3 million dollars but yet they are still allowed to opperate. The were fined for downloads with out the surfer's consent. It has been complained by many that they will crash your pcs a lot and there was even a lawsuit at one time against them on behalf of surfers because of damage it was causing people's systems. The suit was dropped though. What they are doing to us is technically not illegal mainly because the law hasn't caught up with the technology. However there was some cases a few years back were Gator was sued for doing pretty much the same thing but I beleived they settled out of court so there was no rulling.


What can you do?

NEVER promote zangocash for 1. Every PC that is infected with their shit it money that everyone of us is going to lose including yourself.

Don't promote sponsors who buy traffic from them. SEX Search and AFF/Cams were the 2 worst. AFF/Cams stopped only because the ad prices got too high and they weren't making a profit for them. So they are still shit IMO. Sex Search and SexbankRoll still uses them.

this is no different then someone stealing out of your back pocket. NEVER DO business with any of the companies mentioned in this thread and if you ever see them posting online tell them to go fuck themselves.

I would also suggest getting an old PC that you can Fdisk when you are done and download zango and surf the net, go visit your sites and see what happens. Seeing it first hand you will be fucking pissed.


Here is some good reading:
http://www.benedelman.org/news/112006-1.html

http://www.ftc.gov/opa/2006/11/zango.shtm

http://web2.commongate.com/post/Zang..._on_MySpa ce_

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...072701620.html (zango had a deal with Warner Bros, zango had kids games market to kids and when the kids would download the games (and some how agree to the terms which you had to be 18 to do) and then the kids had porn poping up on their pc because of zango.

d-null 09-02-2007 08:40 PM

I would never deal with anyone that associates their business with a company like that

will76 09-02-2007 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024429)
You haven't contacted me to say there is a problem. NO ONE has.

Are you serious. Someone posted in this thread it was a problem.


So if they post in the thread its a problem it doesn't count, it is only a problem if they contact you dirrectly to let you know about it?

That is a page right out of AFF's book, and a few others.


I hope we missunderstood you and you didn't mean it that way.


So will something be done about it ?

pornask 09-02-2007 08:45 PM

Oh fuck, that's some shit going on. The other links also explain how Zango has they soft programmed to overwrite cookies even if it's a surfer sent to the sponsor with your affiliate code in it, the cookie gets overwritten and the sale is credited to Zango instead. Holy shit of a mother loving Jebus... This is fucked up.

Thanks a lot Will76 and others for filling me in on this one. I'm disturbed...

Bro Media - BANNED FOR LIFE 09-02-2007 08:47 PM

there goes 3/4 of joes traffic!

AdPatron 09-02-2007 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by will76 (Post 13024462)
Are you serious. Someone posted in this thread it was a problem. So if they post in the thread its a problem it doesn't count, it is only a problem if they contact you dirrectly to let you know about it? That is a page right out of AFF's book, and a few others. I hope we missunderstood you and you didn't mean it that way. So will something be done about it ?



I don't play the stupid childish games that goes on here at GFY. If people have a problem, contact me directly. End of story.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madrox (Post 13024479)
there goes 3/4 of joes traffic!


That has never happened and it never will.

MicDoohan 09-02-2007 08:55 PM

newsflash you fucking moron - you are now part of the problem - ironically you are infecting your own surfers and are losing sales yourself

way to go you big adult you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh

d-null 09-02-2007 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024505)
That has never happened and it never will.

wow :error:error

MicDoohan 09-02-2007 08:56 PM

doesnt play the childish games on gfy but cant get his arse out of the thread

if you dont care then fuck off and go infect some more of your surfers

nosey 09-02-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Madrox (Post 13024479)
there goes 3/4 of joes traffic!

http://myspace.drewpydraws.com/signs...picture005.jpg

AdPatron 09-02-2007 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicDoohan (Post 13024511)
newsflash you fucking moron - you are now part of the problem - ironically you are infecting your own surfers and are losing sales yourself

way to go you big adult you :1orglaugh:1orglaugh




I only sell and trade traffic, I don't promote affiliate programs.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 08:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicDoohan (Post 13024519)
doesnt play the childish games on gfy but cant get his arse out of the thread. if you dont care then fuck off and go infect some more of your surfers


I never said I don't care, but don't be lazy enough to not contact me.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 09:01 PM

Anyways, their deal has ended for the month and they wont be back on my site.

spacedog 09-02-2007 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024523)
I only sell and trade traffic, I don't promote affiliate programs.

BUT the traffic is infected now.. that's going to fuck your bottom line, period.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MicDoohan (Post 13024519)
doesnt play the childish games on gfy but cant get his arse out of the thread. if you dont care then fuck off and go infect some more of your surfers


Everyone knows I'm a stand up guy, there are hundreds of people who will stand up for me because they know that if there is a problem, I'll deal with it. Someone contacted me to let me know about this thread, so I posted... but what if no one let me know... how would I have known?!

spacedog 09-02-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024536)
Anyways, their deal has ended for the month and they wont be back on my site.

Well, thank god for that. Glad to hear it.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spacedog (Post 13024539)
BUT the traffic is infected now.. that's going to fuck your bottom line, period.



Then contact me if you have a problem with who I'm selling traffic to. I took their links down already, wasn't that easy?!

AdPatron 09-02-2007 09:22 PM

Well, no more replies.

Let this thread be proof on how easy I am to deal with. Night everyone.

spacedog 09-02-2007 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024547)
Then contact me if you have a problem with who I'm selling traffic to. I took their links down already, wasn't that easy?!

I still see zangocash links.
http://movies.theuncensored.com/ right there on the right.

d-null 09-02-2007 09:42 PM

I noticed that too, about the 8 or 9 thumbs down on the right side

AdPatron 09-02-2007 09:45 PM

Removed. Thanks.

AdPatron 09-02-2007 09:45 PM

BTW, if you see anymore... please email them to me. I'm not going to be on the board for the rest of night. Night.

Quickdraw 09-02-2007 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024495)
I don't play the stupid childish games that goes on here at GFY. If people have a problem, contact me directly. End of story.

I contacted you via your form about the Drivecleaner/Winfixer links you had a short time ago, but had to post on another board about it to get a response.

Quote:

They bought traffic from me, and I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary. If people have a problem with them, contact me. It's not like I can't be reached or consoled.
You make threads like these and still don't know what zango is?
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=zango
http://www.gfy.com/showthread.php?t=...ighlight=zango

AdPatron 09-02-2007 10:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13024683)
I contacted you via your form about the Drivecleaner/Winfixer links you had a short time ago, but had to post on another board about it to get a response.

I don't reply to everyone, but I do read them. Unless you ask for a reply, I wont.

BTW, I let that advertiser complete their campaign and then told them they can't renew.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Quickdraw (Post 13024683)

I never said I don't know who they are, I've known who they are for a LONG time. But NO ONE contacted me that they had a problem with them advertising on my site. If no one complains, then I see no problem.

will76 09-02-2007 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoesTraffic (Post 13024495)
I don't play the stupid childish games that goes on here at GFY. If people have a problem, contact me directly. End of story.

If someone posts here there is a problem and you respond to that post by saying that no one contacted you so you are aware of no problems then you are playing the EXACT same games that the other bros play.

What are you fucking blind? He posted here that there was a problem, why does he need to email you once you have seen his post here. Is it really necessary for him to copy and paste what you have already read and email it to you so you can read it again???

It's one thing for people to say "please email when you see a problem instead of posting to the boards". Naturally they want to keep it hush hush but there is some merit to it since not everyone reads GFY 24/7. However once you have read the thread you are still playing the " i see no problem because i recieved no email (even though the problem is stated right here).


so this is the way it works for some people?

http://www1.istockphoto.com/file_thu...ee_no_evil.jpg


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