Google's 2007 Q4 PageRank (PR) Update!
 

An interesting read for PR lovers.

Original version is here: http://searchengineland.com/071024-093938.php

yup, google is mixing a lot of stuff right now...

I just went from pr4 to pr3... Im crying and wanna quit the internet!!!!!!!!

Yay, but the fight against link sellers still doesn't explain the PR3 for google's own baby youtube, obviousely loads of outgoing links can really hurt, would explain why huge directories suffered alot as well.

just went from 5 to 2
on freedietsthatwork.com

me so saaad

hey, I can lend you some of my PR. Please don't quit :winkwink:


lolz :1orglaugh

Ok sorry, I was not meant to laugh .. but somehow I could not hold. Ok, outgoing links cannot reduce PR. It just passes less and less PR to each link, but do not drain your own.

YouTube is not PR3 ... still, why you see youtube as PR3, checkout this post to find.

http://www.gfy.com/13294494-post29.html :thumbsup

That's common knowledge and was true so far, but it doesn't mean that things can't change, do you have a better theory ?

I lost 2 PR 4s to PR 3 and a bunch went to PR 0 :(

thats news to me. Do you have a credible source for it? :winkwink:

interesting

youtube is PR3 according to my google tool bar (page rank)

finally! I went up :)

Poor baby :1orglaugh:waaaaahh

http://www.rawalex.com/youtubepr3.jpg

You Tube PR3.

Dropped from PR4 to PR2 on one site. Gained PR on everything else.

Incorrect. Part of Google's overall deal is where you link to. If you are linking to bad neighborhoods, your rank can suffer. If youtube was caught with tons of links to bad places, they could get penalized.

On the other side, if much of the supporting links for their PR come from places that have since lost PR, then they would suffer on PR as well. People who have used mass link spam techniques to build popularity for their own videos could also lead to Youtube losing a ton of PR.

Oh I should add this: I have a whole bunch of sites that didn't have PR at all, and haven't had any for a long time suddenly all become PR2s. Not sure if this is because I did good things, or because PR2 is the new PR0.

I doubt it is hurting their traffic.

:1orglaugh

PR is such a pile of shit and people need to stop paying so much attention to it. I buy anchored links from content-related sites that are quality - regardless of the Pagerank - and I do just fine with my optimization efforts.

Stop crying over spilled milk and get with the times.

:thumbsup :thumbsup

PR isn't (and hasn't been for a long time) the be all and end all of linkdom. But it is a small sliver of an indication of one way the google looks at sites, nothing more.

Since it is one of the few visible ways to measure stuff, it is easy to get stuck on it.

Washington Post - Still #1 and #2 for news in washington and washington news.

Which means Google basically did a stock split on PR... At the same time they also added something to the algorithm...

google doesn't need to page rank youtube, its artificially mixed into the results.

one of my sites went from a pr3 to a pr1 & se traffic was up by 25% overnight

I'm not going to offer anymore info other than that, i get paid 2 do that ; )

weird.. youtube is PR 8 for me?

Is it over now with this PR updating?

Apple dropped from 10 to 9
MSN is now 8
DMOZ is 8 too

YOUTUBE IS PR3...

I BET YOU 1 MILLION DOLLARS THAT YOUTUBE IS PR3... :pimp

There is no such thing as Real PR and Fake PR... Stop talking bullshit and try to learn a bit about SEO... Clueless usa soldier fag..

Exactly.. :winkwink:


Hehe, that dude vick knows nothing about seo... :1orglaugh

Not dumb question.People say if you selling links then you need to add "no follow" tag beacuse then link is not counted as backlink and that is what google want.

lol... you give thumbs up to that suggestion that "pr means shit", but in the other corner, you have a business in your sig that claims to increase people's PR in exchange of money..lol... :1orglaugh

I went from PR0 to PR2 and PR3 on alot of newer or less developed domains. Hell, I even have PR3 on sitciot.com, and its a fucking doorway page with precious little content of any kind to a fucking Yahoo Group I run. This one has been pretty good for me.

I remained the same - same PR.

First of all, sir .. read post of StarkReality and then read my response. He said:

noticed bold? quantity of outgoing links is different than thing than bad neighborhood. Isn't it?

So, I was just answering his "loads of outgoing links" thing.


Thats a sweet question. Google is starving hard to figure out the way to detect paid links. They are asking people to complain about the sites selling links and manually discounting the backlinks from such websites.

Furthermore, 70% paid links have a specific behavior .. what is that, you can read here http://money.bigbucksblogger.com/use...-is-it-useful/
I am not sure, but Google may be taking this into account as well.


First of all, its gfy and I know by fact its useless to debate here. So I prefer to not waste my time and effort.

If you are unsure what the fuck I was talking about in my this post, better consult to someone who you think understand PageRank quite well.

Now, as long as the bet of 1 million dollars ... I do not have that amount to bet, and I doubt even you do.

Lets make it simple, I have $950 in my ePass handy .. if you want, I can bet that. :thumbsup

How do you want to proceed? .. Whose analysis would be acceptable to you?

your following posts are telling me why you have such a hardon for me .. Dude, I am not US soldier, neither in Guantanamo Bay .. I am just using this thing for fun or may be as a reminder of hell on the earth. :winkwink:

Vick, loads of outgoing links are like adding bullets to russian roulette. The chance that one of those links becomes a bad neighborhood goes up each time you add a link. In many cases, you don't even know that there is an issue until you suffer losses.

As for youtube as PR3, considering I posted up a screen cap already, you wouldn't want to be betting your $950 unless you are intending to just give it away. The proof is already there.

I understand that chance does increase. But still, "loads of outgoing links" is not a factor ..

Do you think my website will suffer a PR loss if I put 1000 links on its homepage, all toward good neighborhood? For example, all links toward Google' sites .. like trends, directory, labs etc etc.

Possible?

I know that toolbarqueries.google.com is returning PR3 for youtube. But why its so .. I have explained in detail here http://www.gfy.com/13294494-post29.html

Ask someone, it makes sense to anyone who knows something more about PR than just checking from toolbar and website based tools available around.


And, as far as $950 .. I know what I am talking about .. I still stand on my bet.

Look at Google, its no more returning that fake page URL for youtube, like in screenshot I posed here.

Same with this tool, its now showing result in Orange, means undetermined ... unlike Red in another post I referred ya.

It also confirms what i said earlier.

Look, they have taken first step of removing that conflicted URL from info: command, now its time for the next step .. and you will see its fixed soon. And youtube will be back to PR8.



Thanks for reading :winkwink:

one of mine site dropped from PR4 to PR1