Clinton Obama 2008??
 

This is the latest polls, http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/candidates/

I mean according to this and many analysts. The Clinton Obama 2008 ticket is lookin pretty good. I just want to get some of your opinions on the likehood of this ticket and your thoughts. Thanks gfy:pimp

Won't happen.
It would be too much thunder at the bottom of the ticket.

Also, she's been going through the whole campaign saying he doesn't have enough experience to be President....so how could she justify him being a heartbeat away from being President?

Also, the numbers on that page are from national polls which are meaningless right now.

The early state numbers are all that matter right now....the national numbers tend to line up later with whomever wins the early states.

I dont think a woman will be president in our lifetime....just my opinion..

We'll have a women president before a black one.

Not unless they impeach Bush and Cheney and Speaker Pelosi has to fill in for awhile before Obama is sworn in :2 cents:

True but so not gonna happen. :2 cents:

Blomberg/Obama is more likely. Clinton Dobbs or Clinton Biden.

If Obama wins the nomination the republicans don't have a chance, and he will be president.

If Hillary wins the nomination we could very well end up with a republican or 3rd party candidate winning the election.

How the hell does Thompson still have double digit poll numbers? Have I missed anything? I've been in Mexico for over a month.

Most state polls he is dying in. He is polling 2% in New Hampshire.

Why would Obama agree to be #2 on a independent ticket with Bloomberg?

If Obama doesn't win the democratic nomination, all he has to do is bide his time in the Senate for 4 years and he'll run the table next time around.

Hillary "might" be able to win the nomination but she won't win the general.


BTW...I think you meant Dodd, the Senator from Connecticut, not Dobbs, the anti-immigration guy on CNN. :1orglaugh

I agree I cant see that happening. I could see Bill Richardson going for the VP slot. I agree with Lenny about the polls, remember early in the game Howard Dean was the favorite Kerry was at the bottom.

Everyone is talking about "3rd party" But do you realize there may be a 4 party race? Dem, Rep, Blomberg, Paul (if he does not win rep nom).

This would be the greatest race ever.

Simple math... Obama does not have a Billion dollars to fund it.

Shit I ALWAYS do that.

Having a billion dollars to fund it is a good reason to think that Bloomberg might run....it is not a good reason to think that Obama would support him or agree to be on the ticket.

"If" Obama doesn't win the nomination, he'll run the table in 4 years no problem. It would be insane for him to agree to be #2 on a ticket and have to support positions handed down from the top of the ticket that he'd have to defend 4 years from now.
He can just bide his time and run again. Although I think he's going to win it all now, seriously.

As for Paul running, he would just be a spoiler and he wouldn't poll high enough to get into the debates or anything...so it would be basically like the right wing version of Ralph Nader.

ive been calling for a clinton and obama ticket ever since they both announced their running

The way I see the election is this (and I follow politics like rotisserie geeks follow baseball...I love it)

The republicans are fucked. They have a very unpopular president in the white house, they just lost their congressional majority, and none of their candidates can really excite the base. They all have conflicts in their positions or records with the republican platform.
Situations like this usually lead to anemic turnout on election day.

The one thing that could change that is Hillary getting the democratic nomination. The republicans don't really like any of their candidates, but boy oh boy do they hate Hillary. Republican turnout would be insane, plus Hillary has alot of problems with independents too....so the republicans best hope is for Hillary to get the nomination.
If it's Edwards or Obama the republicans don't stand a chance.

If Hillary gets the nomination and runs against Romney or Giuliani, it'll be one of those mud slinging, hate-filled, New York style pig fucks that will make you wish we had a parliamentary system of government.

Ok I agree Obama might not like the ticket. And it does make sense that he will wait out another 4 years.

However, I disagree with your Paul statement. Nader has said he will endorse Ron Paul if Nader does not think he has a chance of winning. That says something about the cross over power of Paul. Paul will not pull votes from one side but both and the middle. Something that has not been seen in a 3rd party so far. (Paul is polling 27% among indies in New Hampshire)

Say you have a Clinton vs Rudy or Romney (all pro war, all pro policing the world). Paul could have a real chance of getting 20% of the vote or higher.

I am not sure what % is needed to get into the debates. I know they make up the rules as they go so the % will just keep jumping as Paul rises. Fox News tried to make it so 5% was the goal for their debate, Ron Paul reached that, Romney said he would not show up to the debate and it was canceled. That debate was going to happen in Iowa.

Black men had the right to vote before white women did.

Just saw Obama about 4 hours ago in Boston. This was the second time in the last couple of months that I saw him speak.

He is the black John F Kennedy

No he isn't.

How many people were there? I bet it wont reach the levels of the rally for Ron Paul on the 16th. Maybe maybe not... Obama people love Ron Paul too http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache...lnk&cd=1&gl=us

Vote for Ron Paul!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com/

https://youtube.com/watch?v=88REf0tjZHo

Ron Paul and his words of freedom beating down a fat kid arguing for the drug war

Actually when Ross Perot ran as a 3rd party candidate he pulled votes pretty equally from both sides, so it has been done before.

So if Paul runs as an independent, and let's say it's Hillary vs Romney or Giuliani....then Paul gets the libertarian wing of the republican party to vote for him, and the anti-war part of the democratic party to vote for him.
So he may get 20% but that's not gonna be enough to win, and I think he'll pull enough votes from both sides that it wouldn't affect the outcome.

Here's the thing about Ron Paul, and this is just an honest non-biased opinion. I have nothing against the guy and I admire his conviction, and even agree with him on quite a few things.

He's just not a guy that you look at and listen to and think "Ok, this is the guy I want to trust with the nuclear launch codes"
That, more than any of his positions, is why he can't really win. It may not be fair, but that's really the way it is. :2 cents:

He wont use those codes unless congress thinks we need to. We often forget that the President is not a dictator. For him to use those launch codes we would have to be in a war THAT CONGRESS APPROVED. The last thing he would do is use force because he believes that peace is much more powerful than force.

We also forget that Bill Clinton dropped more bombs on Iraq than the first gulf war. We also forget we are under real no terrorist threat at all. Ask a random person in the inner city what they are more scared of, a cop or a terrorist. Guess their answer.

We do gain more in peace than war and this is coming from someone who was pro-war against Iraq and had family from Iraq.

edit last post: I forgot to mention that H. Clinton also voted for the president to use force against Iran.... again the PRESIDENT to use force. That does not mean just Bush, that means the next president as well.

bitches and hahahahahahas running the country


can't be any worse than bush

and i've had many a wet dream about hill - she's a milf hottie

You do NOT want Clinton in the White House.

That woman is a facade, a well-oiled (no sexually pun intended) political machine and her big advantage is experience. She's not making the same rookie mistakes as her competitors.

But with her running the country, I really would be concerned.
Anyone's better in there than Bush, but she isn't much of an upgrade. Mark my words....

1 cent x 2

If that happens the repubs will win, imo.

I never said he would use the codes....and maybe I should have used another analogy so that you wouldn't have gone off on a war tangent there.

The knock on Ron Paul is that he doesn't look or sound "presidential". People don't see him as a "strong leader".
It's shallow and unfair but that's just the way it is.

To be fair the vote wasn't for the President to use force, it was something totally different. I didn't agree with the vote, but let's not exagerrate to try and make Hillary look bad, we don't have to.

This is one of the reasons I said that Ron Paul as an independent would pull the anti war vote from the democratic party if Hillary was the nominee. Because she's a hawk just like Bush.

If Obama or Edwards are the democratic nominee then Paul doesn't get that anti war vote from the democrats, they'll stick with their party's guy. :2 cents:

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I think the clinton obama ticket is very likely considering the certain circumstances.

You think that because of the domain(s) you're trying to sell.

I would bet money that Clinton and Obama will not be on a ticket together in 2008.

There were over 10,000 strong (according to local television news and Obama Campaign) at the Obama rally in the Boston Commons last month.

Today there were only a few thousand. It was an indoor event that required a $23 dollar donation to attend. The turnout was suprising figuring that it was snowing AND a work night.

Ron Paul has some pretty good and intense ideas....but anyone that thinks he has any kind of a chance is delusional. The decision is not made on digg.com or the handful of other sites that his supporters have seemed to infest. I know Ron Paul supporters get a kick out of people who say what I just said...they post pictures of rally, links to (obviously gamed) online polls but come on...get real. :1orglaugh

If anything Ron Paul is a Barak Obama spoiler if and when he runs outside of the Republican ticket.

i dream of a hillary - ron paul debat :-)

The ideas aren't new either, the libertarian party has been around for a looong time, and they never manage to get more than token support on election day.

The reason Paul is doing so well right now is because there alot of people in the republican party who have libertarian views on alot of issues, and they feel like they were betrayed by Bush and the recent republican majority and their out of control spending.

At the end of the day though, he's not going to get elected. He will however have a substantial impact on the race, which was most likely his goal from the beginning.

Obama / Gore more likely.