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hey fellow shooters
fucking man up and tell the whores she is NOT bringing an "escort" to the fucking job... ask the dumb bitch would she bring her "escort" along to her day job at wendy's?
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too much hanging out with fb |
Charge admission for the escort..?
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it doesnt bother me as long as the guy isnt an asshole.Most come in see we are harmless and leave.
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I only allow "un-emotionally involved" escorts
sometimes when it is another girl, you might end up with an extra model or two by the end of the shoot. :) |
I always invite models/performers to bring one person with them to any project they do for me. It adds to their comfort level, especially if it's their first time working with me.
Of course, I don't hire models to do anything degrading or even wilder than they do in their personal lives either... :winkwink: ADG |
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LOL you gotta tel us what happened man!
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If a girl needs an escort to give her confidence I'm not doing my job right. Scared girls make bad models for my work. However if a girl turns up at a mass casting with a guy I tell her there will be naked girls running around and she would not want her BF to be in the room. Neither would she appreciate it if other girls had men with them.
Girls who bring girls to castings are handled differently, the casting happens in the studio and not the office where the female escort sits. My excuse is "You can tell your GF what you choose to tell her about today. Because what I will say is for you to know and decide what you want to share." Girls who turn up on shoots with an escort are sent home. Pointless shooting them. |
I never was bothered by escorts coming along with models. Typically they would just be elsewhere and mind their own business. I would not put up with escorts that wanted things rushed or interrupted stuff.
I take that back, one time when a model brought her dad who stayed in the room and made posing and outfit suggestions was down right fucking creepy. I felt like I needed an escort - he gave me the willies. |
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I tell them all they are more than welcome to bring an escort to the shoot. I don't care if it's their BF or husband. They know in advance what I expect of them and that's what we'll be doing regardless of who's watching.
In all honesty, maybe 5 girls EVER have actually brought someone along with them. I think most girls like to know that if they wanted to, they could. Makes them feel more comfortable that I offered it. Now, I do make the escort stand outside the room. The first time, I let the escort stay in the room but little inside jokes and the girl moving her eyes toward her friend while she's supposed to be sucking a cock, ruined a shoot for me. So now, I have the guy wait outside the room. They can hear everything but can't make eye contact with the girl. Just my two cents. |
I mostly use girls with agents and they just do what the agent tells them....mostly.
But I have had girls ask if they can bring a friend etc..... Female models should at least have someone who knows where they are and the photographer that's shooting them should also know that soemone knows where the girl is. This is for the girls safety as there are many creepy fuckin' bastards out there. This is the best reason I can think of to have an agent. I usually tell the girl a few stories of the things that have happened in the past with husbands/boyfriends etc.... on shoots and they usually opt for the guy dropping them off and coming back to pick them up when the shoot is over. |
The secret of simon
Usually the model wants to suck and fuck me, so obviously they want to play to get pay. I've had a few girls , ask can BF or hubby or manager come... I politely tell them, fuck no..and if they insist..I follow up with...shoot cancelled and hire another one million models.
It's simple... NO MATTER what you shoot.. a girl will NEVER act the same w/ a friend around as she would by herself.. that's a fact and u can take it to the Bank. I give them references, they see past works, they can google me.. I tell them I shot over 200 models and I haven't killed anybody in the past 5 years...Yet * MUHHAAAHAHAHAHA* They laugh and come over to suck my dick and fall in love with my southern charm and hospitality. I treat models as if they are my girlfriend for a few hours ( I listen to their dumbass stories with a smile)...the attention and kindness they receive, translates into cuteness, shyness, happiness and horniess..I get new girls no one has shot...half of the battle is total transparency. The model knows everything about me, before I book the ticket..then they become "intrigued" with working for me..I slam in the salami, bang I gotta another model looking to leave her hubby or dump her boyfriend just so she can stare in my soft blue eyes...I only pull out the full MAGIC when I know a girl can be a true money maker..because I still need to pimp this bitch for my money... if she likes me..oh my , how the money rolls in. I also get model releases signed BEFORE shoot and I pay AFTER shoot It also helps to have a big mainstream past... **special note to photographers*** 1. If u are fat..go to the gym 2. If you are old...act young 3. Buy clothes from this decade 4. watch MTV get to learn the lingo..relate to the models on their level 5. wash your ass dudes..I put vanilla baby powder on my balls..Im clean and girls like that 6. do not "adjust girls clothing" I only touch them after they touch me 7. Stop being a fucking creep and never force or command a model to do anything. My sets are fun and it shows..If a model feels she can't do what is required in the shoot..send her packing, simple..I always lay out everything I need them to shoot before I get the ticket..some girls change thier minds or feel guilty about BF..so that's cool They take a cab home, asap 8. A nice car really goes a long way..doesn't have to be totally expensive, just a cool car or truck..models get wet faster 9. GUM or TIC TACS ..always 10. steps 1-9, rinse and repeat |
If a model wants to bring an escort it's ok with me but I make it very clear that
the escort cannot interfere with the shoot or be distractive. I've had to deal with the whole spectrum of escorts. The good one's that come and make themselves invisible. The bad one's that persistently try to become the director and there is nothing worse than having someone off to the side giving the model directions on how to pose when it's the camera's angle that matters. I've found that these boyfriends, I mean escorts, are just like kids and if you give them something to play with like an xbox they will soon lose their attention and be out of the way. I don't put up with that crap anymore. They either act right or get out of my sight. |
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Just hand the bitch a can of pepper spray as she walks in. Safety first!
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have the escort wait in the car..
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With most of my shoots, the girls come alone but if they wish to bring someone, I don't have a problem with it. As long as the person has a clear understanding of what is going to be taking place and is not bringing any drama to the shoot. If he turns out to be a fucking prick, I will tell him to leave but so far that has never happened. Hell, I even had a girls parents wait out in the car for three hours once as I was shooting their 18 year old daughter. :1orglaugh
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Very Well Said |
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don't hate the playa, hate the game |
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Me..I keep the shit in perspective. Money 1st..pussy 2nd |
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This is ecactly what i mean and this is how he talks to girls. FYI im not blacklisted by 1 single person. Youre a piece of shit scumbag who hides in Vegas, never goes to shows, talks a ton of shit.. IM SELLING IM BACK IM IN THE BIZ IM OUT FOR LIFE Youre a scam man who is detrimental for the real industry. You try and make new girls do 2 scenes for price of one for shit money telling them that is how it is and someone like you would be banished from LA if you tried the crap here that you do there. YOURE A FUCKING TOOL EVERETT, A WANNA BE, God dam hillbilly |
I think it would be different based on location as well. You may be able to get away with more in larger cities such as LA and Vegas where there are tons of models and such. If your shooting in some smaller city where literally you the shooter are the only porn outlet, then often you will run into the desire to use escorts the first time and have a willingness to allow them.
Seems the more amateur they really are the more skittish they are. I am not out to fuck these models like some. I do not shoot any POV and I have no desire to get into their pants. I am just after making some money, letting her make some money, and hopefully she will refer some friends. Whereas when strippers or craigslist hookers have shown up or applied, they typically never have an escort and are expecting to get fucked or something and are way more apt to be a bad shoot, have tons of drama, and forget about re booking her as she will seriously flake and have every excuse in the book - until rent is due, some other bill, or you can tell she can no longer trade services to her dealer. Which is a problem in itself as I have no desire to work with junkies nor have them showing up to shoot locations or knowing I own anything worth stealing. |
Escorts?
Since when are we calling suitcase pimps "escorts"? And I wonder if Simon Syinister has figured out how to turn off the fire / car alarms while he's shooting his scenes. You know, the ones where the models fall in love with him and his "southern charm and hospitality". :1orglaugh:1orglaugh |
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BEHOLD: DA SHOOTAZ!
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The only time I've had a girl bring an escort he was super nice and professional, we ended up chatting for a while after and had a good talk... He was another producer though, not an annoying boyfriend.
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I hear what your all saying.. I really do ....
but sally up and keep em in the car around the street I don't want these fucks knowing anything about me.... I would not trail my girl into her work to meet her boss the dentist I don't care to what the fuck do I care... seriously.. I'm far less creepy than 99% of the workers at Wendy's.. Joe I don't think your creepy either.. I would for sure not put you in the creepy photographer realm... as Everett said... the girls will give you a better show when no boyfriends are around you know that as well as I do... the PC side of both of us say we should make her feel as comfy as we can.. but the man in us and true pornographer in us knows better... |
so long as the perv doesn't get in the way the perv can stay
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pansies I tell ya
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