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HELMY 03-30-2009 01:34 PM

i hate to ask, but why do MACs perform smoother than PCs?
 
I've been a PC user for the longest time (prior to my beloved Amiga).

Got a Macbook laptop for my wife's bday recently - and I love how when you open/close the lid, the machine turns on/off almost instantly (no warm-up like a PC).

What's the secret? does the instant on/off experience apply to mac machines running WinXP? (i know, i know)

Ambergirl 03-30-2009 01:36 PM

Helmy...the answer as to why Mac's run better than PC's...is because it's a MAC! ;)

TheDoc 03-30-2009 01:37 PM

It's the OS, not the Computer. You can take any Computer, put mac osx on it, and it will turn on and off in a flash. IE: Dell Mini with bt, mac os, sat card and voip - you have a cell phone that turns on and off in seconds.

At the Machine level - for the Price a normal computer is twice the speed. You just don't get all the toys from the go that a Mac offers, so in the end you either pay more for the PC or get less toys, like video editing software.

KickAssJesse 03-30-2009 01:38 PM

office: iMac
home: Macbook Pro
road: Powerbook g4

I'll never use a pc again :thumbsup

F-U-Jimmy 03-30-2009 02:26 PM

For us Macs are way more productive and crash far less. They can be just as slow to open as a PC it all depends on what software you instal and what sort of mess you keep your desktop in. I know people who swear their PC never crashes, and those that say they crash daily.

I use Photoshop and open huge layered files of 2 + gigs with no issues, but i have installed a minimum of 8 gigs RAM on most of our office Macs with more than 4 TB storage for each. If you use Photoshop or studio Pro and keep up to date with the current versions you will have little if any problems. Other software i cannot comment on :2 cents:

Phil21 03-30-2009 02:31 PM

Because Apple controls the whole hardware/software stack, and can thus plan accordingly.

It's the same reason console games (xbox, ps3, etc.) run "flawlessly" compared to PC games. The developers only need to code for one configuration, vs. literally hundreds of millions of different possible hardware configs.

Something like sleep sounds easy, but in practice has been implemented in so many different ways depending on the individual manufacturer it becomes quite complex. Since Apple knows what hardware they need to support beforehand, they can simply code to those specs vs. trying to support 300 random buggy implementations of the same thing.

There are lots of "advanced" features modern PC's support these days, that most OS's simply don't even try to take full advantage of yet.

natas 03-30-2009 02:45 PM

I replaced both my pcs with macs in the last year.

never been happier :thumbsup

borked 03-30-2009 02:56 PM

it's only relatively recently (10.2 I think) that wake from sleep has been like this.

Wait till your macbook has been on sleep on battery power for too long, runs out of battery juice while in sleep and left in that state for a week (or a month etc etc). Then open the lid when it's plugged into the power outlet....

Back to exactly where you left it in still less time than it takes a PC to wake from sleep.

That is a feature I'd be a dead duck without! Running out of battery is a simple annoyance, not a hair-pulling deathly loss-of-data experience. The way it should be.

borked 03-30-2009 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15689206)
They can be just as slow to open as a PC it all depends on what software you instal and what sort of mess you keep your desktop in.

Desktop clutter and machine speed is a Windows-phenomenon. A Mac couldn't care less how many GB of files clutter the desktop. Only Windows assigns that shit to RAM :error

HorseShit 03-30-2009 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 15689347)
Desktop clutter and machine speed is a Windows-phenomenon. A Mac couldn't care less how many GB of files clutter the desktop. Only Windows assigns that shit to RAM :error

:2 cents::2 cents:

who 03-30-2009 03:16 PM

Mac treats the user like a person. Windows treats the user like a retard.

PornNewz 03-30-2009 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by who (Post 15689424)
Mac treats the user like a person. Windows treats the user like a retard.

:thumbsup:thumbsup

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-30-2009 03:18 PM

Can wndows, chuck that fuck out the window. I wiped XP off my laptop and installed Ubuntu and that thing has never ran smoother and faster in it's life.

Adam X 03-30-2009 04:02 PM

I miss my Apple ][+
48k ram ..lol

apple nailed it right the first time... still using PC mainly for biz but this black macbook sitting on my desk sure blows it away.. to answer as others have, the OS was written very well.


you

seeric 03-30-2009 04:05 PM

once you go mac, you don't go bac.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-30-2009 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by F-U-Jimmy (Post 15689206)
I use Photoshop and open huge layered files of 2 + gigs with no issues, but i have installed a minimum of 8 gigs RAM on most of our office Macs with more than 4 TB storage for each.

In Window's defense, I'm running an old Dell Dimension 3000 with 512mb of RAM, Dreamweaver and Photoshop open along with FireFox 24/7 and my Photoshop opened my 12+MB header PSD without any problems at all...

That being said, I am currently in the process of replacing my work machine with a iMac, and buying 2 MacBook Pros. :thumbsup

mynameisjim 03-30-2009 04:26 PM

What Phil above said, they control all the hardware and software interactions so there is a huge advantage to that when it comes to what you are talking about. For PCs there are literally millions of hardware and software configurations the OS has to deal with. The disadvantage is you can pay close to 3X the price for a 10% gain in some areas of performance when choosing an Apple.

They are nice machines though, no doubt about that.

hypedough 03-30-2009 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ambergirl (Post 15688969)
Helmy...the answer as to why Mac's run better than PC's...is because it's a MAC! ;)

Yep. And Windows is inferior in structure.

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life 03-30-2009 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A1R3K (Post 15689632)
once you go mac, you don't go bac.

ya, i think they say the same thing about sucking cock. faggot.

DarkJedi 03-30-2009 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HELMY (Post 15688961)
I've been a PC user for the longest time (prior to my beloved Amiga).

Got a Macbook laptop for my wife's bday recently - and I love how when you open/close the lid, the machine turns on/off almost instantly (no warm-up like a PC).

What's the secret? does the instant on/off experience apply to mac machines running WinXP? (i know, i know)

same thing happens with a notebook.

close the lid - it goes to sleep
opent the lid - it wakes up from the point where you stoppd working.

Sony Vaio :thumbsup

DarkJedi 03-30-2009 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hypedough (Post 15689751)
Yep. And Windows is inferior in structure.

windows 7 owns everything

:2 cents:

Brujah 03-30-2009 08:58 PM

OS X is just a better operating system.

stickyfingerz 03-30-2009 09:15 PM

Each mac computer contains a tiny vial of Steve Jobs sperm... :2 cents:

qwe 03-30-2009 10:02 PM

it's like a gay party here with all the happy mac users lol... i'll leave you guys alone :1orglaugh

2012 03-30-2009 10:17 PM

isn't a mac a personal computer ?

SmokeyTheBear 03-30-2009 10:19 PM

wait till you actually want to DO something besides turn it on and cant :)

potter 03-30-2009 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil21 (Post 15689227)
Because Apple controls the whole hardware/software stack, and can thus plan accordingly.

It's the same reason console games (xbox, ps3, etc.) run "flawlessly" compared to PC games. The developers only need to code for one configuration, vs. literally hundreds of millions of different possible hardware configs.

Something like sleep sounds easy, but in practice has been implemented in so many different ways depending on the individual manufacturer it becomes quite complex. Since Apple knows what hardware they need to support beforehand, they can simply code to those specs vs. trying to support 300 random buggy implementations of the same thing.

There are lots of "advanced" features modern PC's support these days, that most OS's simply don't even try to take full advantage of yet.

:2 cents::2 cents:

This is the biggest reason.

potter 03-30-2009 10:23 PM

Second being *NIX operating systems inherent superiority in handling shit.

Killswitch - BANNED FOR LIFE 03-30-2009 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by qwe (Post 15690688)
it's like a gay party here with all the happy mac users lol... i'll leave you guys alone :1orglaugh

I'm a Windows user...

KillerK 03-30-2009 11:20 PM

Windows 7 is really really FAST!

erotismo 03-31-2009 01:25 AM

Ive never used a PC except when on vacation etc to check email and whatnot in hotels and internet cafes, They are very confusing....Ive been an apple guy from the beginning. Started on a Dicomed design station back in the 80s then when personal computers came out went straight to the mac and never looked back.

kesha1 03-31-2009 01:31 AM

Mac is made by Mac for Mac, but the PC parts are made by anyone who wants to :)

2012 03-31-2009 01:37 AM

when my MAC grows up it can be my PC

Raf1 03-31-2009 04:19 AM

it's always been that way. However I use my PC way more because of the programs I can get as well as the money it would cost to upgrade my mac or buy a new one.

CarlosTheGaucho 03-31-2009 06:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDoc (Post 15688976)
It's the OS, not the Computer. You can take any Computer, put mac osx on it, and it will turn on and off in a flash. IE: Dell Mini with bt, mac os, sat card and voip - you have a cell phone that turns on and off in seconds.

At the Machine level - for the Price a normal computer is twice the speed. You just don't get all the toys from the go that a Mac offers, so in the end you either pay more for the PC or get less toys, like video editing software.

Exactly, it's a completely different architecture of the OS.

Any MS OS since MS- DOS deals with major problems dealing with processes and how to effectively use up the RAM and all the hardware resources.

CIVMatt 03-31-2009 06:36 AM

http://www.kenrockwell.com/apple/why-pros-use-mac.htm

When people speak of computer problems like viruses, reloading operating systems, crashes, DLL errors, spy ware etc., they are referring to Windows-specific problems, not computer problems. Mac users hear about these things, but rarely if ever have to deal with them. I'm speaking from experience, not trying to incite hate mail. I'm sure a Windows Jihad member could send me some sort of virus, just that I don't get a dozen a day as I did on Windows. Viruses are the "59,940 reasons to reconsider Macs" (front cover of Consumer Report's December, 2004 issue).

Would you drive a car that died on you while driving and needed to be reset and tweaked every other trip? Not me. There's no excuse for balky computers, either. Remember cars from the 1950s, which needed complex tune-ups every 2,500 miles and even starting and running when cold was never a sure thing? Today cars all start and run perfectly, have twice the power and better gas mileage, too. This is because they are all computer controlled and self-adjusting. They run great because auto makers use their own proprietary operating systems, NOT Windows. Windows has no excuse for not running flawlessly after 20 years of development. Complexity is not an excuse: even the crappiest car today has dozens of networked computers controlling everything and runs great, compared to 20 years ago when cars still used mechanical carburetors. I suspect Windows, in my experience anyway, runs like crud deliberately.

It's not so much the hardware as the software. The chips and hard drives and screens all come from the same places. The problem is that Windows has always been a buggy science experiment that left a lot of problems for users to figure out on their own. Apple has always done their homework to ensure that the computer knows how to do its own internal work so you don't have to. Microsoft always expected people to learn how computers think. Apple teaches its computers how people think. Steve Jobs gave away Apple's secret in a Forbes interview a short while back: it's all about the user experience, which is all about the software which is the Mac operating system, iPod, and everything they do. The people I've met at Apple reinforce how Steve drives it into everyone's heads that it's their job to ensure that you and I have a great time using our Macs and that everything needs to be obvious, simple to use and just work. They're not allowed to stop their design 90% of the way through and hope the users figure it out. It's Windows software that makes PCs so aggravating, not the computers themselves.

Unlike Nikon vs. Canon, Coke vs. Pepsi, Rock vs. Disco or BMW vs. Mercedes dickering, there is a real difference between Mac and Windows when you work on your computer all day. (Apple has a larger share of the computer market than BMW and Mercedes have combined in the auto market.)

You don't need a dedicated support department to keep a Mac running. Computer support departments HATE Mac because Macs don't need computer support departments. You'll never get your company's help desk to suggest Mac because they know they'd be unemployed. Fast. Macs aren't perfect, but close.

eroticsexxx 03-31-2009 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil21 (Post 15689227)
Because Apple controls the whole hardware/software stack, and can thus plan accordingly.

It's the same reason console games (xbox, ps3, etc.) run "flawlessly" compared to PC games. The developers only need to code for one configuration, vs. literally hundreds of millions of different possible hardware configs.

Something like sleep sounds easy, but in practice has been implemented in so many different ways depending on the individual manufacturer it becomes quite complex. Since Apple knows what hardware they need to support beforehand, they can simply code to those specs vs. trying to support 300 random buggy implementations of the same thing.

There are lots of "advanced" features modern PC's support these days, that most OS's simply don't even try to take full advantage of yet.

Pay attention. Like Phil said and Potter agreed with...:thumbsup

If Microsoft started building machines in a proprietary, exclusive way that Apple does, there would be no issues with the configuration and Mac users' masturbatory rantings would have less truth to them.

PC OEM's often do not follow Microsoft's HCL and SCL to exact specs. This is why some PC's simply do not work as fast or as smoothly as they should.

If Apple allowed OEM's to install OSX on any machine (as they currently do with Windows), much of the "Mac is superior" raving would instantly cease and the truth of the matter would be revealed.

But we don't want Microsoft to build PC's now, do we? An antitrust case would be dropped on Microsoft's lap faster than Steve Jobs could say, "Oh shi..."

CurrentlySober 03-31-2009 06:38 AM

i like ipoo...

CarlosTheGaucho 03-31-2009 06:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eroticsexxx (Post 15691525)

If Microsoft started building machines in a proprietary, exclusive way that Apple does, there would be no issues with the configuration and Mac users' masturbatory rantings would have less truth to them.

Another good point, but too many variables in the game.

Also, why would you fix something that still keeps the biggest market share (especially outside US) and is WAY more affordable for anyone with say slightly less purchasing power worldwide.

TheDoc 03-31-2009 06:52 AM

People, it's NOT the COMPUTER that makes Windows Machines slower, it's Windows. I can take the same Computer (mac or pc), put Mac OSX on it and get the exact same results if it had a mac sticker on it.

Again, take any Computer, put mac OSX on it, and you get the exact same results as over paying for the damn box at the store. So go buy yourself a far superior and cheaper PC, double it's speed since the cost is different, and put the far superior mac osx on it, and you have a totally kick ass box that no store bought mac could touch.


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