Whats my fault for the charge backs???
 

Today my sponsor takes some sales from my account and said that this is from the charge backs... whats my fault about that???
You know how hard is not to make sale, you know how much of work is that... whats my responsibility that some one dont like the website and didnt find what he saw on the free sponsor's tour pages :(
Please spam me with sponsors that dont take the money back from their webmasters!

Thanks guys!

So you think you should still get paid when a sponsor get a chargeback?:disgust

:uhoh .... idiot

Here you go DeepDish: DTI Cash

Charge Back
If an individual who registered by his credit card have a charge back for some reason, the amount will be deducted for agency's sales amount. This is effective indefinite. However if the total sales amount becomes minus, DTI Services will not bill its loss.

http://www.dticash.com/terms.html :winkwink:

whats my fault for the CB? if the member is not happy from the members area!

Just shut up already you ignorant fuck :disgust

Thanks man!

No shit, my bad. I know they do vigilant refunds and leave the initial commission. Not trying to mislead.. .

chronig, suck my dick

just a sign of the times. it never used to happen. thats the whole point of PPS, the sponsor gets the benefits of keeping rebills but must also deal with chargebacks but it seems most don't think it should be that way anymore...

You know i see this issue come up a lot. I think the carders are testing card #s on these little guys with no traffic. Any Charge back issues with TeenRev or Realteencash have been with guys that only send a few joins a month. I find it very hard to believe one affiliate can send a shit load of joins and another affiliate with little to near no joins can have such a crazy chargeback ratio while the bigger affiliate has hardly any chargebacks. Its either carders or affiliate fraud one of the two

DeepDish this is a business so treat it like a business. If you really cared about your surfers you would know the sponsor you are pushing on your surfer inside and out.
You didn't do your home work on the sponsor you are sending these surfers to so in all reality the chargeback issue blame falls on YOU! Dont go crying foul now because they took your sales away just use this as a learning experience.:2 cents:

And i was not pointing that out to be ass or not saying you were misleading sorry if it came off that way :)

Of course not your fault if a member asks his credit card company for a charge back. This is all a simple error. Just email the sponsor back and tell them that this is a mistake and how hard you worked, be exact on the amount of hours per site and per day here, and tell the sponsor exactly how much time and work went into that sale and that you don't deserve this.

They will understand and appreciate your business, since you work so hard for them, and also understand it was wrong to pass the charge back on to you. Just be real polite and explain your situation in detail and you'll see that this will be solved in the best possible way for you.

I dont say that I'm big, I can only do 20-30 sales per day, the only thing I will do is to stop promote this sponsor...

No, not at all. :thumbsup

i don`t want to say

But do you understand were i am coming from? In your initial post you stated "whats my responsibility that some one don't like the website and didn't find what he saw on the free sponsor's tour pages"

So you didn't mind sending a surfer to a site that didn't offer what it promised as long as you got paid. But now crying fowl because you got charge back deductions. This is the part that baffles me :upsidedow

This happend first time with that sponsor, which I promote from 2 weeks, never tought that will get in that problem...
thanks much man!

Yeah, 2 weeks is a really long time! Man, you really had a history there, a real good relationship and prosperous business to nurish and grow together. But they just fucked you like this, how could they? Didin't they feel the love the two of you had?

errr yes if its pps

Don't be such as ass.

Some programs are even starting to charge back PPS.

Which is confusing to me because I thought PPS was based on an avg of all sales, rebills, cross sales and chargebacks :helpme

DeepDish,

What type of audience are you targeting and how are you sending traffic? If you're getting alot of chargebacks you may want to rethink where and how you're advertising your links...


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Jack

well if you only promoted for 2 weeks and already got a chargeback me thinks that something else is at play here as it normally takes around 45days for a chargeback to reach the merchant.

people are not going to eat your charge backs.

thats the way it is.

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Unless a reliable 3rd party merchant is controlling the funds, how do you even know if the charge back is legit? What's from preventing a sponsor with his own merchant account from simply removing sales from an affiliate and then saying, "you had a charge back this week, sorry" ......??? Not much money, but if the sponsor does one charge back x 100 affiliates a month, that really ads up to a nice monthly profit.

Is it revenue share or PPS? If revenue share, then it's fair.

Its PPS!

what's funny? are you new to being an affiliate or something?

This is what I mean! They said on their front page $40 Per Sign Up! Why I should care for their charge backs? For partnership program I'm agree about the charge backs, but totally NOT for PPS programs!!!!!!!!

This is case and point one of the larger current problems with our industry. You can barely string together a sentence in proper English, you have no understanding of chargebacks and their overall effect, and you are bitching about payouts you probably shouldn't have had in the first place being so clueless.

This is why the affiliate model is dieing.

Affiliates seem to have a better than thou outlook on everything. You are basically outside sales reps. If this were any other industry you would've been clipped a long time ago.

Chargebacks are frustrating but normally they should be a small percentage of your overall sales (like 1% or less). It's not worth worrying about it.

Terms of service:
The Partnership program with default console option pays you 60% after processing fees (15%). Refunds and chargebacks will be deducted. You will be paid 60% for all membership sales, plus all recurring billing for the duration of each subscription. 15% fees on a 60% share means your payout will be 51% gross.

There is NOTHING about CB's for their PPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You said you've been pushing this sponsor for about 2 weeks, if you aren't happy with the profits then move along to another sponsor, simple as that. Although you should give it a bit more time to level out before you come to a conclusion.

Over time if there are a lot of chargebacks then you know there is something up with the members area (it sucks).

Ok... where is the TOS for the PPS then..?? Obviously they have the same clause for both the revshare and PPS...

Like I said, if the chargeback to join ratio sucks then either their members area sucks or it's your traffic. If you don't have any kind of similiar problem with another sponsor then you know it's the members area.

If they have added terms for their Partnership program, I think they should say the same for PPS...or?

If they chargeback you on PPS, then it's not really PPS program. It's revenue share (share revenue). In fact "less" than revenue share; with real PPS the program only will gain from rebills but pay you only once and they also bear the risk of a loss.

It's not your fault unless you market the website by misleading the surfer.

YEAH! :thumbsup

yeah, its very very hard these day not to make sales .. please protect me from making sales :1orglaugh :1orglaugh