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Old 12-13-2010, 09:37 PM   #201
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Old 12-13-2010, 09:47 PM   #202
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One word: EASY - low attrition = no one drops out, why would they, it's too painless and easy to win.







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i guess that's the thing for me, nothing good in my life has ever come easy. everything i have ever accomplished or achieved came as a result of very hard, consistent work and effort.
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Get dat paper, yall. fuck logic and reason right in their inconvenient asses. heh
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i guess that's the thing for me, nothing good in my life has ever come easy. everything i have ever accomplished or achieved came as a result of very hard, consistent work and effort.

thats the beauty here - for those that want to work hard, like me... we can hedge our bets by kicking ass in the first 6 months to make sure we get to that 100k mark within 2 years


there are very clear and well documented reasons for the high attrition rate of MLM's.

people DON'T want to hassle other people to buy a bunch of products they don't want or need - nobody likes to talk people into joining some hard to understand program... they do it for a few months then its a drag, they lose steam and they drop out.

One24.... it's too easy man...find that one guy a month - online - never have to speak to a soul about it unless you want to.

think about that all you guys with a tons of surfers coming to your sites - nothing could be easier
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thats the beauty here - for those that want to work hard, like me... we can hedge our bets by kicking ass in the first 6 months to make sure we get to that 100k mark within 2 years


there are very clear and well documented reasons for the high attrition rate of MLM's.

people DON'T want to hassle other people to buy a bunch of products they don't want or need - nobody likes to talk people into joining some hard to understand program... they do it for a few months then its a drag, they lose steam and they drop out.

One24.... it's too easy man...find that one guy a month - online - never have to speak to a soul about it unless you want to.

think about that all you guys with a tons of surfers coming to your sites - nothing could be easier
well, good luck to you man! you seem like an alright guy.


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looks like a little MLM bashing party going on... well Im right there with you guys...I hate things that aren't based on solidity and integrity. I feel I'm really lucky to have found a plan I can really get behind because it IS so solid.



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Do me a favor, the "Compensation" video...

Please watch the second point from 0:57 to 1:19

"No costs or investments."

Then in the same point he says all that's required is "The purchase of one unit of product per month."

Right there should tell you something is up. If I were looking at it as a potential whatever the hell you want to call yourself, I would have turned it off right there.


There is no way in hell a legit company will ask you to spend your own money in order to make them money, when all you're doing is buying a product for yourself and getting others to sign up.

To relate this to adult (since this is an adult board) how many affiliate programs as you to buy a membership and rebill each month that you're an affiliate?

Quick answer: None.

Long answer: None. At all.
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WTF? They don't even have the domain name http://one24.com/?



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Old 12-13-2010, 10:32 PM   #208
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looks like a little MLM bashing party going on... well Im right there with you guys...I hate things that aren't based on solidity and integrity. I feel I'm really lucky to have found a plan I can really get behind because it IS so solid.

I agree all those companies have bad payment policies that don't provide enough incentives and rewards to make it EASY for new people to succeed. (although the numbers in that chart look like pure fiction to me)

I could never have imagined myself going in for something like this, I always despised even the thought of MLM...until I researched One24 and I realized the HUGE MAJOR and FUNDAMENTAL DIFFERENCE between this Program and all that came before it.

You see - they make it almost impossible to fail.

Get one person per month - you think thats hard? (I got 11 today from this thread)

Pay $60 bucks per month - can you manage that? (your checks will get bigger than that in a short amount of time)

There is nothing like this guys, never has been...

I could explain all about the Platinum pool of cash and the Gold Rush and the various ways highly motivated peeps can make way more money, faster... But suffice it to just focus on the Green Ticket money - 100k per month sounds too good right? But have any of you posed anything even close to a scenario where the 100k per month is out of reach or even overly ambitious. Did you look at the graph?

It will click soon guys, keep that mind working.. as soon as you get the UNIQUENESS here - then you get it.

One word: EASY - low attrition = no one drops out, why would they, it's too painless and easy to win.







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Many will drop out, because they don't want to pay $720/yr for something they aren't making any money at, the product just simply isn't beneficial enough at that price point to stand on its own merit which is generally a red flag for a mlm startup. Out of the 11 who signed up today, you'll be lucky to get 2 who actually start buying the product monthly. I would never waste energy on something online where someone I referred was told they had to "wait" to sign up and pay. Referrals who are excited about something online need to be converted immediately upon hitting the site, making them wait is a recipe for disaster. Can you imagine sending a horny surfer to an adult site and then having the site tell him that there will be an opening in two weeks if he'd like to come back to sign up and jack off then?
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Do me a favor, the "Compensation" video...

Please watch the second point from 0:57 to 1:19

"No costs or investments."

Then in the same point he says all that's required is "The purchase of one unit of product per month."

Right there should tell you something is up. If I were looking at it as a potential whatever the hell you want to call yourself, I would have turned it off right there.


There is no way in hell a legit company will ask you to spend your own money in order to make them money, when all you're doing is buying a product for yourself and getting others to sign up.

To relate this to adult (since this is an adult board) how many affiliate programs as you to buy a membership and rebill each month that you're an affiliate?

Quick answer: None.

Long answer: None. At all.


No costs or investments for the "PROGRAM" is accurate absolutely - you buy a superfood for $60 - you get the jar - its good stuff... You are paying for the product, NOT to join the company.

Most MLM's sell you all kinds of marketing materials and they have membership fees - this has zero. Nothing you can ever buy - just get your jar per month.

I agree with you though - this could have been articulated much better. You have pointed out some of the same things that me and my partners have noticed - the substance of what Mark is saying is solid, but the style and verbiage leaves a lot to be desired. In those videos he is pitching to seasoned MLM people and giving them ammo with which to recruit - this isn't the best idea, especially for guys like me who are showing these videos to MLM newbs.

The Company is very new and they are coming out with a whole set of new promo materials soon, also my group will be making our own instructional and inspirational vids soon too.


"There is no way in hell a legit company will ask you to spend your own money in order to make them money, when all you're doing is buying a product for yourself and getting others to sign up."

did you just misunderstand him...you're new to the concept of MLM so ok... but this is standard LEGAL and LEGIT biz practices - also your analogy about aff programs had no basis in fact either.
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...My group will be offering a lot of extra training and coaching
This was the post where you went from being a general, run of the mill mlm dipshit and skipped right straight into fullblown amway mlm stupid.

Will you be offering motivation tapes and seminars too? oh joy I can't wait.
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If it's so easy to get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month that will get 1 person a month, why not make a social network. You'd be bigger than Facebook in a few short years. Or hell, just 1 year if you change every month to every week. I mean only get 1 new person to join a free social media network every week, how hard could that be? They don't have to pay for shit or give you their most valuable/private personal piece of information.
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This guy needs to hook up with RogerV


When it comes to MLM it is amazing how many people try to sell it as making "easy money" yet 99% of them involved aren't making a fucking dime. how ironic is that!!!
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thats the beauty here - for those that want to work hard, like me... We can hedge our bets by kicking ass in the first 6 months to make sure we get to that 100k mark within 2 years


there are very clear and well documented reasons for the high attrition rate of mlm's.

People don't want to hassle other people to buy a bunch of products they don't want or need - nobody likes to talk people into joining some hard to understand program... They do it for a few months then its a drag, they lose steam and they drop out.

One24.... It's too easy man...find that one guy a month - online - never have to speak to a soul about it unless you want to.

Think about that all you guys with a tons of surfers coming to your sites - nothing could be easier

how much are you making ????
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those are some huge checks lol.
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When it comes to MLM it is amazing how many people try to sell it as making "easy money" yet 99% of them involved aren't making a fucking dime. how ironic is that!!!
Funny, I clicked on the thread before even looking at who started it and I fully expected it to be RogerV based on the title.
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those are some huge checks lol.
What's funny is that after 4 months of buying product plus shipping, the guy has shelled out $280, yet is going nuts over pulling in less than $200.
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What's funny is that after 4 months of buying product plus shipping, the guy has shelled out $280, yet is going nuts over pulling in less than $200.
exactly. great tune on the site though ;)
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i noticed several similarities between what was written there and what this thread's op has stated. friends with the owners, etc....

sounds coached eh.
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i noticed several similarities between what was written there and what this thread's op has stated. friends with the owners, etc....

sounds coached eh.
Yeah, the kid who started this thread uses a half a dozen of the most commonly used mlm cliche phrases in this thread. Clearly he's just reciting what his upline has been throwing at him to get him all excited.
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i noticed several similarities between what was written there and what this thread's op has stated. friends with the owners, etc....

sounds coached eh.

No coaching.. this thing is so new - that guy got in early so he knew someone, or he wouldn't have found out about it..

It's unbelievable you guys don't look at his small checks and realize what you are looking at.... http://gendentity.info/2010/09/22/wh...hs-system.aspx

His checks are now LARGER than 60 bucks per month. Does that compute to you? Do you realize that this is the reason why this thing is so solid. This is why people aren't dropping out. Remember - as soon as your checks are larger than the 60 bucks - you are paying zero to stay in the program.

What's the most interesting thing about this phenomenon is that it's the guys that are so convinced that this Program isn't real, they get such a hard on for proving it to be a scam, they spend hours online trying to punch a hole in it - they fail of course, then I get the call..."OK I'm in"

Every single friend of mine that I have shown this thing to - especially the ones who were the most convinced that it's a scam, is now joining. The guys that get a hair up their ass to try to prove to me the errors of my ways here - they do the research, they see the logic.. whala! there they are on my waiting list.

You guys are really enjoying telling me how bogus this thing is, but your interest will lead you to following the checks coming in from guys like Justice - when his checks are 5k... 10k....every month like clockwork... from doing virtually nothing other than referring a friend per month... You may just be drinking the cool aid too
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no coaching.. This thing is so new - that guy got in early so he knew someone, or he wouldn't have found out about it..

It's unbelievable you guys don't look at his small checks and realize what you are looking at.... http://gendentity.info/2010/09/22/wh...hs-system.aspx

his checks are now larger than 60 bucks per month. Does that compute to you? Do you realize that this is the reason why this thing is so solid. This is why people aren't dropping out. Remember - as soon as your checks are larger than the 60 bucks - you are paying zero to stay in the program.

What's the most interesting thing about this phenomenon is that it's the guys that are so convinced that this program isn't real, they get such a hard on for proving it to be a scam, they spend hours online trying to punch a hole in it - they fail of course, then i get the call..."ok i'm in"

every single friend of mine that i have shown this thing to - especially the ones who were the most convinced that it's a scam, is now joining. The guys that get a hair up their ass to try to prove to me the errors of my ways here - they do the research, they see the logic.. Whala! There they are on my waiting list.

You guys are really enjoying telling me how bogus this thing is, but your interest will lead you to following the checks coming in from guys like justice - when his checks are 5k... 10k....every month like clockwork... From doing virtually nothing other than referring a friend per month... You may just be drinking the cool aid too
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a couple observations,

with 11 people just from this thread signing up + all of your friends who have signed up, the waiting list is well over a year for several of those. and with the golden ticket day and based on what you are saying re: all the enthusiasm, there should be very few golden tickets available.

and in my experience dealing with people and nutrition, the drop out rate is extremely high, and i can also speak from experience about that- it is more than difficult to maintain eating nutritiously day to day, let alone month after month, year after year.

i am not sure how an mlm program in and of itself, is a solution to that. care to provide some insight to that?
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a couple observations,

with 11 people just from this thread signing up + all of your friends who have signed up, the waiting list is well over a year for several of those. and with the golden ticket day and based on what you are saying re: all the enthusiasm, there should be very few golden tickets available.

and in my experience dealing with people and nutrition, the drop out rate is extremely high, and i can also speak from experience about that- it is more than difficult to maintain eating nutritiously day to day, let alone month after month, year after year.

i am not sure how an mlm program in and of itself, is a solution to that. care to provide some insight to that?
In this thread I have only talked about what it takes to fill your "Green" line - which is getting one person per month.

On the 24th day of every month the unused Green Tickets are available to be used by Members who have extra people on their waiting lists. So on December 24th I will be able to get all the people on my waiting list in.

I'm not going to get into any more detail about the nuts and bolts of this thing here - the videos tell the story for those who are interested.

http://gorich.124online.com/fru/pg/38608/default.aspx
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countdown to the "one24 fucked me, what a scam!" thread.

seriously, you're here screaming at us what a miracle awesome idea this is and how we can make tons of money, when it sounds like you just go tin yourselgf and haven't actually made a penny?

seriously?

this is exactly the kind of idiot shit that makes MLM's money...
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In this thread I have only talked about what it takes to fill your "Green" line - which is getting one person per month.

On the 24th day of every month the unused Green Tickets are available to be used by Members who have extra people on their waiting lists. So on December 24th I will be able to get all the people on my waiting list in.

I'm not going to get into any more detail about the nuts and bolts of this thing here - the videos tell the story for those who are interested.

http://gorich.124online.com/fru/pg/38608/default.aspx
so how do you know all these gold tickets will be available to you and also, with such a new nutritional program, how can you claim the attirition rate is unusually low for an mlm?
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Many will drop out, because they don't want to pay $720/yr for something they aren't making any money at, the product just simply isn't beneficial enough at that price point to stand on its own merit which is generally a red flag for a mlm startup. Out of the 11 who signed up today, you'll be lucky to get 2 who actually start buying the product monthly. I would never waste energy on something online where someone I referred was told they had to "wait" to sign up and pay. Referrals who are excited about something online need to be converted immediately upon hitting the site, making them wait is a recipe for disaster. Can you imagine sending a horny surfer to an adult site and then having the site tell him that there will be an opening in two weeks if he'd like to come back to sign up and jack off then?

This is just pure fiction on every level...

First of all - its not 720 per year - remember you get checks coming in each month - after a few months those checks are larger than $60 - so its a wash - you aren't paying anything to stay on board.



Out of the 11 people who got on my waiting list yesterday - all 11 will be joining - I have 100 percent conversion of my waiting list so far. They don't get on there if they don't GET this Program.


The waiting list period - it doesn't phase people - this isn't a porn site where they need instant gratification. They understand that One24 is designed for controlled growth and that this is a necessary function of that overall plan. If anything it makes them more eager - makes membership seem even more valuable.
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So how much money have you made so far?
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countdown to the "one24 fucked me, what a scam!" thread.

seriously, you're here screaming at us what a miracle awesome idea this is and how we can make tons of money, when it sounds like you just go tin yourselgf and haven't actually made a penny?

seriously?

this is exactly the kind of idiot shit that makes MLM's money...

I fully realize every negative aspect of MLM biz model - and the reasons why they fail. I did extensive research into the attrition and shortcomings of all the predecessor MLM's prior to joining this program.


MLM's have a very bad rap because people that drop out end up eating the money they have invested. And most MLMs require (or allow) reps to invest huge amounts of money.

In this case your scenario of the One24 scam thread would be pretty boring - "One24 fucked me! (out of 60 bucks)"

Not a lot of fireworks there...
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i just watched the compensation vid (slow morning, waiting for my girl to get back from her wax, then heading out snowboarding). this has got to be the most retarded thing i've ever seen. green pc, silver pc, platinum pc, not a guaranty of income, LOL. pc pc pc pc PC PC PC PC!!!!!!!

PC MADNESS!!!!!! GOLD RUSH!!!!!!

lol.
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so how do you know all these gold tickets will be available to you and also, with such a new nutritional program, how can you claim the attirition rate is unusually low for an mlm?
As this program gains more attention - it's highly likely that there could come a time when there aren't enough unused tickets on the 24th day of each month to get everyone in. This is highly unlikely and would be a huge victory for the program - this would mean the attrition rate has dropped to almost nothing.

I don't have actual statistics on the attrition rate - and those numbers can't be accurate with a program this new. I have heard that its the lowest of any MLM - and dropping.

I was simply speaking to the philosophy behind this thing - the reasons for why people don't drop out. When someone gets a check for 9 dollars, and they know that it very well could be 18 dollars the following month - and could grow to many thousands of dollars.. why stop buying the product?
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i just watched the compensation vid (slow morning, waiting for my girl to get back from her wax, then heading out snowboarding). this has got to be the most retarded thing i've ever seen. green pc, silver pc, platinum pc, not a guaranty of income, LOL. pc pc pc pc PC PC PC PC!!!!!!!

PC MADNESS!!!!!! GOLD RUSH!!!!!!

lol.

I agree that the video leave a lot to be desired - it's geared toward the experienced MLM person and makes very little sense to most people I show it to...

Have fun on the hill - I'm heading up for some boarding tomorrow too
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You now those overly exuberant salesmen, who are so line by line with the pitch we've been hearing forever that they don't sell shit? That's exactly what you're sounding like here. Do they give you a hand guide for what to say to prospective referrals or something? Have you made any money yet? It really sound slike you've memorized their sales pitch line for line, are pushing it hard, yet have absolutely zero clue what you're in with here. Even after your thoroughly intensive week of research, lol.
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damn dude you have no clue how these people are fucking with you and have no plan or even considering signing up.

i admit v. ramakrisna may have signed up thinking it was a contest thread.
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This is just pure fiction on every level...

First of all - its not 720 per year - remember you get checks coming in each month - after a few months those checks are larger than $60 - so its a wash - you aren't paying anything to stay on board.



Out of the 11 people who got on my waiting list yesterday - all 11 will be joining - I have 100 percent conversion of my waiting list so far. They don't get on there if they don't GET this Program.


The waiting list period - it doesn't phase people - this isn't a porn site where they need instant gratification. They understand that One24 is designed for controlled growth and that this is a necessary function of that overall plan. If anything it makes them more eager - makes membership seem even more valuable.
Nothing I've said is fiction, actually including shipping, its $840 the pc has to commit to annually in product purchase. Sure, some small checks will come in from the measly $1.50 commissions, but if your downline doesn't refer anyone, you're stuck buying this overpriced product each month with little compensation to offset it. Most people don't want to invest 6 months of time and energy just to know they are only going to be breaking even.

The reason you've received so much negativity in this thread is because you focused almost solely on the compensation plan and referring new people using pie in the sky figures. Essentially making the product just a front for the movement of $60 per person throughout the downlines, which then just makes it just a pyramid scheme. I realize by having 1 product, they can skirt laws and make it legal, but when members like you come along and make the product a non issue it really rubs people the wrong way. I just hope your honest enough to come back here in a few months and tell us how you are doing.
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damn dude you have no clue how these people are fucking with you and have no plan or even considering signing up.

i admit v. ramakrisna may have signed up thinking it was a contest thread.

This thread may seem like a fail to you - but this has been the single biggest windfall for me since I joined the program - 13 joins... stunning.
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This thread may seem like a fail to you - but this has been the single biggest windfall for me since I joined the program - 13 joins... stunning.
that's an often used angle in threads like this, there's no way to verify the claim. other than the fact that there has not been one single post from anyone saying they signed up.

it's odd peeps be so keen to sign up yet so embarrassed to not make a post about it.
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that's an often used angle in threads like this, there's no way to verify the claim. other than the fact that there has not been one single post from anyone saying they signed up.

it's odd peeps be so keen to sign up yet so embarrassed to not make a post about it.
have you watched the videos? they are a great hoot.
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This thread may seem like a fail to you - but this has been the single biggest windfall for me since I joined the program - 13 joins... stunning.
13 is stunning? How are you marketing this, shouldn't be hard to get 20 a day to signup online. Just be careful about making these forum spam threads, don't want to get your one24 account suspended.
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This thread may seem like a fail to you - but this has been the single biggest windfall for me since I joined the program - 13 joins... stunning.
how much did you earn from those 13 joins?
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Nothing I've said is fiction, actually including shipping, its $840 the pc has to commit to annually in product purchase. Sure, some small checks will come in from the measly $1.50 commissions, but if your downline doesn't refer anyone, you're stuck buying this overpriced product each month with little compensation to offset it. Most people don't want to invest 6 months of time and energy just to know they are only going to be breaking even.

The reason you've received so much negativity in this thread is because you focused almost solely on the compensation plan and referring new people using pie in the sky figures. Essentially making the product just a front for the movement of $60 per person throughout the downlines, which then just makes it just a pyramid scheme. I realize by having 1 product, they can skirt laws and make it legal, but when members like you come along and make the product a non issue it really rubs people the wrong way. I just hope your honest enough to come back here in a few months and tell us how you are doing.


Your logic has utterly failed you and your theories about what I am making and what others are making are completely devoid of any semblance of fact.

I know many people in this program - 100 percent of them are making more than the 60 bucks a month, so for 100 percent of them - there is no cost.. and their checks are growing exponentially.

Your attempts to smear this system hold no water, the facts are completely and utterly the reverse of your claims.

I have only been responding to what people have talked about - which has focused mainly on the payment structure, your silly attempt to claim that this is somehow a "Pyramid Scheme" because the primary motivating force is commerce is completely irrelevant and borders on slander.

This is very simply the invention of a better mousetrap - you see I believe in ingenuity, when someone comes along with something revolutionary and that has the ability to change lives in deep and meaningful ways, I don't hold onto the preconceived notions of how things were before - every single one of your criticisms has been totally devoid of any knowledge of this program - there are incentives at work here that you know nothing about - you are one of those people who lash out from an emotional perspective without taking the time to gather any facts. How is that working out for you in your daily business life?
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have you watched the videos? they are a great hoot.
i have, and they are! i've learned a lot about mlm over the last day.
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