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Cyandin · 12-15-2010, 12:32 PM

Fiddy requests for proof to avoid the ban hammer

u-Bob · 12-15-2010, 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyandin

Fiddy requests for proof to avoid the ban hammer

what are you talking about?

signupdamnit · 12-15-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

Depends on how long they will need to rely on WMs.

Quite the gambit though. Is he sure he'll never need webmasters in the future? I think some plan on getting into mainstream and trying to cloak their identities to hide past transgressions. The problem with that is if you piss someone off enough and they are motivated they are probably going to find out all of your other ventures too. And they'll likely talk. It seems rather stupid to burn all that goodwill over a couple months of payouts.

will76 · 12-15-2010, 12:40 PM

Dave this is all bulshit and you know it. It shows more about the financial postion of your company not wanting to pay out on a "little" amount of money than some affiliates dead links. Those people you claim you can't contact, they obviously still cashing your checks, send them a notice with their check. Oh wait LOL you stopped sending checks....

Bryan G · 12-15-2010, 12:47 PM

Talk about the destruction of a well known well respected company over the years. All this within a week.

DamianJ · 12-15-2010, 01:18 PM

It's kinda sad when someone has their meltdown in public.

Evil Chris · 12-15-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by kristin

I think he's holding rebills for those outdated sites.

There's no difference. It's earned money either way.

alias · 12-15-2010, 01:24 PM

LOL at the nickname change.

"semi-retired-dave"

cherrylula · 12-15-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

LOL at the nickname change.

"semi-retired-dave"

Maybe he will semi-pay those who are owed.

lazycash · 12-15-2010, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

Talk about the destruction of a well known well respected company over the years. All this within a week.

Its been going on for much longer than a week. There's been multiple threads over the last few months by former affiliates wondering why they can no longer login with no explanation and why their emails don't get any response and money owed never comes. Dave suddenly disappeared off the boards then popped back up recently to remove his sig with his sites in it and didn't respond to any of the threads. Seems a few of his bros finally got a hold of him and wondered what was going on so he's back making a last ditch attempt to save some face.

Sad when someone builds up a solid reputation and company name over a decade, then decides when times get tough they are going to try and run over the little guy to help keep the business afloat. I have a feeling though that since Dave has distanced himself from Cyberage and Camsnetwork by removing them from his sig, that he either had a falling out with his partner or has been bought out. Now I see Dave has taken Cyberage out in front of his name and has put "Semi- Retired". Looks like he's going to claim he's not responsible for the improprieties because he's no longer with the company.

Ethersync · 12-15-2010, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xxweekxx

haha u serious? if someone makes the money, pay them.. using "dead" sites is BS.. u got the sale..

heck im in dozens of mainstream/adult sites.. the original website i used to signup died like 1997, yet i still get paid from these networks.lol

It's clearly total bullshit. We have all seen how this script plays out many times.

Ethersync · 12-15-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alias

LOL at the nickname change.

"semi-retired-dave"

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I have a feeling though that since Dave has distanced himself from Cyberage and Camsnetwork by removing them from his sig, that he either had a falling out with his partner or has been bought out.

I really doubt he got bought out. My guess is they are going to squeeze all the cash out of the rebills that they can, possibly sell off some pieces at the very end and then ride out into the sunset.

PornMD · 12-15-2010, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by u-Bob

Dave,

Just for the record, we have never done business, but based on the recent threads (started both by others and yourself), your posts about cutting of people "that have not updated their sites in years" and the almost aggressive tone of your posts in response to what every webmaster who is serious about his business would consider valid questions I doubt I'll ever do business with you in the future.

</constructive criticism>

Took the words out of my mouth.

lazycash · 12-15-2010, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Ethersync

I really doubt he got bought out. My guess is they are going to squeeze all the cash out of the rebills that they can, possibly sell off some pieces at the very end and then ride out into the sunset.

You're probably right, not a lot he could ask for on a buyout for an ancient avs model, failed tube site and white label cam site. I was thinking more along the lines that he didn't want to deal with the affiliates who got screwed over so he just distances himself from Cyberage as if its not his responsibility anymore.

Vjo · 12-15-2010, 01:49 PM

How bout posting a "hey contact us, we cannot contact you" before we take your rebills thread?

Ethersync · 12-15-2010, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

I was thinking more along the lines that he didn't want to deal with the affiliates who got screwed over so he just distances himself from Cyberage as if its not his responsibility anymore.

Yeah, that's exactly what is happening.

BlackCrayon · 12-15-2010, 01:50 PM

you are still keeping the rebills of these people you cut off, it seems you are doing this on purpose as avs is dead, most people have moved and you assume, won't notice.

kristin · 12-15-2010, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris

There's no difference. It's earned money either way.

Oh I 100% agree.

Vjo · 12-15-2010, 02:11 PM

"Shooooot, cant contact ya." "Sorry Bud, you be out of the prog."

And quit making my linklist look bad.

I couldnt resist.

u-Bob · 12-15-2010, 03:13 PM

This needs a random unrelated youtube clip:

Forkbeard · 12-15-2010, 04:04 PM

This is pretty much all you need to see from this thread:

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Originally Posted by Semi-Retired-Dave

We have not cut off paying our affiliates.

19 posts later:

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Originally Posted by Semi-Retired-Dave

They should tell us and we would pay them out.

signupdamnit · 12-15-2010, 04:17 PM

For anyone (not technical enough to already know how to do this) who is not getting paid, locked out of their weblounge, and also feels that they are being treated unfairly and has exhausted all means to resolve the situation here is an .htaccess file which you should be able to place in the protected (where the content actually is, not the join page) directory. All requests within this directory from Cyberage domains will be rewritten to the domain and url specified (you need to change that part).

Code:

RewriteEngine On
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.avsofchoice\.com/* [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.cybersexnetwork\.com/* [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.cyberage\.com/* [NC]
RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.ugas\.com/* [NC]
RewriteRule /* http://www.DOMAIN.com/chargeback.html [R,L]

Change "http://www.DOMAIN.com/chargeback.html" to where ever you'd like them to go. I suggest either forwarding them to another AVS which will actually pay you or perhaps setting up a file advising the customer on how to initiate a chargeback against Cyberage. Of course you'll need to have your server configured for it to work but most virtual hosts already are.

If anyone has IPs or User Agents for the bots cyberage uses to check sites, let me know and I can whitelist them so they'll think the sites are still up.

Just make sure you really want to do this and all other options have been exhausted
Test it to make sure it works. If not simply remove the file (.htaccess) to reverse it. Back up any existing .htaccess file in case you need it.

RFremont · 12-15-2010, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Bryan G

If you owe money just pay them already. The last two days it looks like you've lost the plot man.

Seriously, the guy sounds like a crazy person. He's given so many contradictory statements, I just dont appreciate seeing hard working webmasters getting fucked out of money they've earned, particularly from a program that has done seemingly well on the backs of those same webmasters. What the fuck is that.

BIGTYMER · 12-15-2010, 04:43 PM

will76 · 12-15-2010, 04:47 PM

He is definitely having some serious problems on his end. He stops posting here about 2 months ago out of the blue. He posts several times a day then boom nothing for 2 months. During that time lots of posts are made asking for payment. He is not replying to emails sent to him. HOWEVER he logs into GFY to change his sig and remove all of his company sites.

Then he pops up finally after Dean contacts him and he gives some bullshit about semi-retiring. I guess semi-retiring is like a tube site that is "tube site that is not like a tube site". He goes on and on about family and spending time with kids then he spends all day here pissing and fighting with people. He says his partner decided not to pay some affiliates, then he says all affiliate are paid, then he makes excuses why affiliates wont be paid. Now he changes his nick away from his company name. The guy is acting like he is about to have a melt down but telling you how great his restaurant and other offline businesses are making millions and Cyberage is still doing great blah blah... he is obviously having serious problems on his end and trying to spin it / sell it here any way he can so he can try to save face.

u-Bob · 12-15-2010, 04:51 PM

alias · 12-15-2010, 05:35 PM

Will is on target, Dave bragged a bit so people come down on that. Look at how people still rag Sleazy.

seeandsee · 12-15-2010, 05:38 PM

this is something i dont need right now, new drama

stever · 12-15-2010, 05:52 PM

is this just one big bad publicity stunt?

18teens · 12-15-2010, 06:03 PM

Not paying people because their sites aren't updated is the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever heard. I've heard a lot of lame excuses in my day but that fucking beats everything.

lazycash · 12-15-2010, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 18teens

Not paying people because their sites aren't updated is the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever heard. I've heard a lot of lame excuses in my day but that fucking beats everything.

What's worse is they never responded to any emails at all, leaving affiliates to wonder why they could no longer login and why they weren't getting anymore checks.

Dcat · 12-15-2010, 07:55 PM

You can also bet that for every GFY affiliate publicly screwed, there are 2 more with chapped asses in the bushes.

papill0n · 12-15-2010, 08:00 PM

wow RIP cyberage

terrible way to go out Dave

RFremont · 12-15-2010, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by lazycash

What's worse is they never responded to any emails at all, leaving affiliates to wonder why they could no longer login and why they weren't getting anymore checks.

Then change the nick to 'semi-retired' and put a children's charity organization link in the sig.... the irony.

Ethersync · 12-15-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RFremont

...and put a children's charity organization link in the sig.... the irony.

Yeah, WTF? It's like Dave is saying, "SEEEEE I'm a good person!!!"

Agent 488 · 12-15-2010, 10:00 PM

everyone assumes there is any rebills left. would not be surprised the dozen or so people who can't login were the only ones left. and the "little owed" was the little money that was still coming in.

business models from two years have been decimated this year let alone a decade old.

not one person came forward to say they were still making money despite the claims of huge wires. it's done.

jscott · 12-15-2010, 10:06 PM

Dave still trying to justify this, and back himself up about this is just hilarious LOL

Total scummage right there

C H R I S · 12-15-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris

Hold on... if someone is owed money, that means they must have made sale(s) to justify a + figure in their payout column. If the site is, in fact, dead... or 404, they making a sale is impossible, right?

I will take any number of sales from anyone out there with old, out-dated sites and pages. If they still send joins, I'm good with that and will pay you.

Stop tying to make sense....

Press Release Pro · 12-15-2010, 10:17 PM

Hit me up for PR services Semi-Retired-Dave, we would make a good team!

Lets milk this cow so you can be Fully-Retarded-Dave and laugh all the way to the bank

woj · 12-15-2010, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Evil Chris

Hold on... if someone is owed money, that means they must have made sale(s) to justify a + figure in their payout column. If the site is, in fact, dead... or 404, they making a sale is impossible, right?

They must be using Paul Markham's patented "magic join links"

PXN · 12-15-2010, 10:23 PM

LOL, what a stupid reason not to paid pple just b/c they don't update their site. Time to pull the plug on them pple, what a joke.

moeloubani · 12-15-2010, 10:35 PM

Anyone who got scammed by Dave should just send his family, neighbors and friends a detailed statement of how he scammed you. Make sure you hit his Facebook friends list and let them know as well. Make sure you find his address and send one to 10 house numbers before and 10 house numbers after his. You are doing nothing wrong if you are telling the truth. Enough of this BS scamming while we let the scammer live their lives like normal. Honest program owners need not worry and people don't need to jump the gun with something like this. But when someone decides 'Fuck you all I'm not going to respond to anyone for weeks and when I do it's to say that we just simply aren't going to give some of you guys your money' then it's time to make sure that for the rest of their lives, online and in real life everyone knows exactly who they are dealing with.

Remember; find where the person lives, go to Google street view and find the house numbering pattern and send a snail mail letter to 10 houses on either side of his. Be honest and say exactly what happened, that you had an agreement for x number of years and now after refusing to answer you for x number of weeks you are being told flat out that you aren't getting your money and you feel that this person is scamming you.

These guys are buying nice things with money that you worked hard to get - they are laughing and enjoying their time with your money while you sit there and work. This is not right.

Let this be a warning to any program owner that decides they want to try to pull some shit like this on their webmasters. Enough is enough and if you think you can be a thief without the public humiliation of being a thief brought to you and anyone who profits off of your thievery then think again. That time needs to be over.

jimmycooper · 12-15-2010, 10:37 PM

Shitty sites that haven't been updated for years are bad for all of us because, while they might convert here and there to random idiots and make a few bucks for their pseudo webmasters, they put a bad taste in the mouths of the the many who view us all as one. Instead of bitching at Dave, who I don't even know btw, we should be thanking him for helping to clean up a mess that desperately needs to be cleaned up.

Agent 488 · 12-15-2010, 10:45 PM

you will find as many active cyberage affiliates as satancash affiliates. come on man, that shit is dead. there is probably literally a "little money" still being made and owed.

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Originally Posted by moeloubani

Anyone who got scammed by Dave should just send his family, neighbors and friends a detailed statement of how he scammed you. Make sure you hit his Facebook friends list and let them know as well. Make sure you find his address and send one to 10 house numbers before and 10 house numbers after his. You are doing nothing wrong if you are telling the truth. Enough of this BS scamming while we let the scammer live their lives like normal. Honest program owners need not worry and people don't need to jump the gun with something like this. But when someone decides 'Fuck you all I'm not going to respond to anyone for weeks and when I do it's to say that we just simply aren't going to give some of you guys your money' then it's time to make sure that for the rest of their lives, online and in real life everyone knows exactly who they are dealing with.

Remember; find where the person lives, go to Google street view and find the house numbering pattern and send a snail mail letter to 10 houses on either side of his. Be honest and say exactly what happened, that you had an agreement for x number of years and now after refusing to answer you for x number of weeks you are being told flat out that you aren't getting your money and you feel that this person is scamming you.

These guys are buying nice things with money that you worked hard to get - they are laughing and enjoying their time with your money while you sit there and work. This is not right.

Let this be a warning to any program owner that decides they want to try to pull some shit like this on their webmasters. Enough is enough and if you think you can be a thief without the public humiliation of being a thief brought to you and anyone who profits off of your thievery then think again. That time needs to be over.

moeloubani · 12-15-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

Shitty sites that haven't been updated for years are bad for all of us because, while they might convert here and there to random idiots and make a few bucks for their pseudo webmasters, they put a bad taste in the mouths of the the many who view us all as one. Instead of bitching at Dave, who I don't even know btw, we should be thanking him for helping to clean up a mess that desperately needs to be cleaned up.

Yes like people flying sigs saying check out my sponsor list while at the same time defending a scamming sponsor. Yes idiots like you DO need to be cleaned out of this industry.

Pseudo webmasters? Anyone who has ever built a network of websites would never say something like this. Go back to doing work on your shitty ass starletsheet that probably wouldn't make a single sale if you left it up for decades and stop criticizing people making sales.

moeloubani · 12-15-2010, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent 488

you will find as many active cyberage affiliates as satancash affiliates. come on man, that shit is dead. there is probably literally a "little money" still being made and owed.

Just saying, if anyone is in that boat and for future reference to anyone thinking of doing the same thing.

Fat Panda · 12-15-2010, 10:50 PM

what a shameful way to go out

Agent 488 · 12-16-2010, 01:17 AM

nice cars anyway.

http://www.wpimp.com/cyberage-dave/

moeloubani · 12-16-2010, 11:06 AM

This guy rides a lambo on stolen money, if you had money stolen from you by him don't let this fool drive around in his lambo thinking he's king shit, let his neighborhood and his family know that he's a thief!!

kush · 12-16-2010, 11:23 AM

Very dumb. You amputated the for sale value of your network. Then again, who knows how much "owed" money is in question.

12-15-2010, 12:40 PM	#54
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	Dave this is all bulshit and you know it. It shows more about the financial postion of your company not wanting to pay out on a "little" amount of money than some affiliates dead links. Those people you claim you can't contact, they obviously still cashing your checks, send them a notice with their check. Oh wait LOL you stopped sending checks.... __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

12-15-2010, 12:47 PM	#55
Bryan G Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Toronto Posts: 8,338	Talk about the destruction of a well known well respected company over the years. All this within a week. __________________ Bryan skype: bryan.glass3 \| ICQ 302999591

12-15-2010, 01:24 PM	#58
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	LOL at the nickname change. "semi-retired-dave" __________________ https://porncorporation.com

12-15-2010, 01:49 PM	#65
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	How bout posting a "hey contact us, we cannot contact you" before we take your rebills thread? Last edited by Vjo; 12-15-2010 at 01:59 PM..

12-15-2010, 01:50 PM	#67
BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	you are still keeping the rebills of these people you cut off, it seems you are doing this on purpose as avs is dead, most people have moved and you assume, won't notice. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

12-15-2010, 12:32 PM	#51
Cyandin Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,723	Fiddy requests for proof to avoid the ban hammer

12-15-2010, 01:18 PM	#56
DamianJ Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: A magical land Posts: 15,808	It's kinda sad when someone has their meltdown in public.

12-15-2010, 02:11 PM	#69
Vjo So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Happy 4th of July :) Posts: 6,082	"Shooooot, cant contact ya." "Sorry Bud, you be out of the prog." And quit making my linklist look bad. I couldnt resist.

12-15-2010, 03:13 PM	#70
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063	This needs a random unrelated youtube clip:

12-15-2010, 04:17 PM	#72
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	For anyone (not technical enough to already know how to do this) who is not getting paid, locked out of their weblounge, and also feels that they are being treated unfairly and has exhausted all means to resolve the situation here is an .htaccess file which you should be able to place in the protected (where the content actually is, not the join page) directory. All requests within this directory from Cyberage domains will be rewritten to the domain and url specified (you need to change that part). Code: RewriteEngine On RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.avsofchoice\.com/* [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.cybersexnetwork\.com/* [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.cyberage\.com/* [NC] RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} ^http://.+\.ugas\.com/* [NC] RewriteRule /* http://www.DOMAIN.com/chargeback.html [R,L] Change "http://www.DOMAIN.com/chargeback.html" to where ever you'd like them to go. I suggest either forwarding them to another AVS which will actually pay you or perhaps setting up a file advising the customer on how to initiate a chargeback against Cyberage. Of course you'll need to have your server configured for it to work but most virtual hosts already are. If anyone has IPs or User Agents for the bots cyberage uses to check sites, let me know and I can whitelist them so they'll think the sites are still up. Just make sure you really want to do this and all other options have been exhausted Test it to make sure it works. If not simply remove the file (.htaccess) to reverse it. Back up any existing .htaccess file in case you need it.

12-15-2010, 04:43 PM	#74
BIGTYMER Junior Achiever Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Walled Garden Posts: 17,066

12-15-2010, 04:47 PM	#75
will76 Making $$$$ w/ ClickCash Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Location: USA Posts: 18,037	He is definitely having some serious problems on his end. He stops posting here about 2 months ago out of the blue. He posts several times a day then boom nothing for 2 months. During that time lots of posts are made asking for payment. He is not replying to emails sent to him. HOWEVER he logs into GFY to change his sig and remove all of his company sites. Then he pops up finally after Dean contacts him and he gives some bullshit about semi-retiring. I guess semi-retiring is like a tube site that is "tube site that is not like a tube site". He goes on and on about family and spending time with kids then he spends all day here pissing and fighting with people. He says his partner decided not to pay some affiliates, then he says all affiliate are paid, then he makes excuses why affiliates wont be paid. Now he changes his nick away from his company name. The guy is acting like he is about to have a melt down but telling you how great his restaurant and other offline businesses are making millions and Cyberage is still doing great blah blah... he is obviously having serious problems on his end and trying to spin it / sell it here any way he can so he can try to save face. __________________ ICQ: 86364801 Email: will [at] innovativeassets [dot] com PROGRAM SHIT LIST - DO NOT PROMOTE (click link for gfy thread) FNCash \| Media Revenue

12-15-2010, 04:51 PM	#76
u-Bob there's no $$$ in porn Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: icq: 195./568.-230 (btw: not getting offline msgs) Posts: 33,063

12-15-2010, 05:35 PM	#77
alias aliasx Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 19,010	Will is on target, Dave bragged a bit so people come down on that. Look at how people still rag Sleazy. __________________ https://porncorporation.com

12-15-2010, 05:38 PM	#78
seeandsee Check SIG! Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Europe (Skype: gojkoas) Posts: 50,945	this is something i dont need right now, new drama __________________ BUY MY SIG - 50$/Year Contact here

12-15-2010, 05:52 PM	#79
stever Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,715	is this just one big bad publicity stunt? __________________ Brutal Bucks has extreme sites that convert!

12-15-2010, 06:03 PM	#80
18teens Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,605	Not paying people because their sites aren't updated is the biggest crock of bullshit I've ever heard. I've heard a lot of lame excuses in my day but that fucking beats everything.

12-15-2010, 07:55 PM	#82
Dcat Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Mexico Posts: 1,607	You can also bet that for every GFY affiliate publicly screwed, there are 2 more with chapped asses in the bushes.

12-15-2010, 08:00 PM	#83
papill0n Unregistered Abuser Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 15,547	wow RIP cyberage terrible way to go out Dave

12-15-2010, 10:00 PM	#86
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	everyone assumes there is any rebills left. would not be surprised the dozen or so people who can't login were the only ones left. and the "little owed" was the little money that was still coming in. business models from two years have been decimated this year let alone a decade old. not one person came forward to say they were still making money despite the claims of huge wires. it's done.

12-15-2010, 10:06 PM	#87
jscott So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Taipei Posts: 25,198	Dave still trying to justify this, and back himself up about this is just hilarious LOL Total scummage right there

12-15-2010, 10:17 PM	#89
Press Release Pro Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 228	Hit me up for PR services Semi-Retired-Dave, we would make a good team! Lets milk this cow so you can be Fully-Retarded-Dave and laugh all the way to the bank __________________ PM me for Press related consulting work. Good PR / Bad PR / PR / Articles / Headliners When results matters morals comes second

12-15-2010, 10:23 PM	#91
PXN Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,548	LOL, what a stupid reason not to paid pple just b/c they don't update their site. Time to pull the plug on them pple, what a joke.

12-15-2010, 10:35 PM	#92
moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	Anyone who got scammed by Dave should just send his family, neighbors and friends a detailed statement of how he scammed you. Make sure you hit his Facebook friends list and let them know as well. Make sure you find his address and send one to 10 house numbers before and 10 house numbers after his. You are doing nothing wrong if you are telling the truth. Enough of this BS scamming while we let the scammer live their lives like normal. Honest program owners need not worry and people don't need to jump the gun with something like this. But when someone decides 'Fuck you all I'm not going to respond to anyone for weeks and when I do it's to say that we just simply aren't going to give some of you guys your money' then it's time to make sure that for the rest of their lives, online and in real life everyone knows exactly who they are dealing with. Remember; find where the person lives, go to Google street view and find the house numbering pattern and send a snail mail letter to 10 houses on either side of his. Be honest and say exactly what happened, that you had an agreement for x number of years and now after refusing to answer you for x number of weeks you are being told flat out that you aren't getting your money and you feel that this person is scamming you. These guys are buying nice things with money that you worked hard to get - they are laughing and enjoying their time with your money while you sit there and work. This is not right. Let this be a warning to any program owner that decides they want to try to pull some shit like this on their webmasters. Enough is enough and if you think you can be a thief without the public humiliation of being a thief brought to you and anyone who profits off of your thievery then think again. That time needs to be over.

12-15-2010, 10:37 PM	#93
jimmycooper Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Location: Manhattan Posts: 4,016	Shitty sites that haven't been updated for years are bad for all of us because, while they might convert here and there to random idiots and make a few bucks for their pseudo webmasters, they put a bad taste in the mouths of the the many who view us all as one. Instead of bitching at Dave, who I don't even know btw, we should be thanking him for helping to clean up a mess that desperately needs to be cleaned up. __________________

12-15-2010, 10:50 PM	#97
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	what a shameful way to go out

12-16-2010, 01:17 AM	#98
Agent 488 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 22,511	nice cars anyway. http://www.wpimp.com/cyberage-dave/

12-16-2010, 11:06 AM	#99
moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	This guy rides a lambo on stolen money, if you had money stolen from you by him don't let this fool drive around in his lambo thinking he's king shit, let his neighborhood and his family know that he's a thief!!

12-16-2010, 11:23 AM	#100
kush Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 3,382	Very dumb. You amputated the for sale value of your network. Then again, who knows how much "owed" money is in question.