suggestion on people giving away porn (tubes)

[DirtyDanza]

here is my question to the "big program owners"

why not hire a fucking IT guy for this conversation we will call him a (hacker)

put him on salary and his sole job is to make the tube site owners life living hell?


im sure there are some kids on 4chan right now just waiting for a little job....

[PR_Glen]

because that would be illegal?

[Agent 488]

sounds legal. go for it.

[WarChild]

Because unlike you who doesn't have a lick of common sense, successful people generally realize that risking everything by breaking the law is not a smart thing to do.

[DirtyDanza]

let me get this straight...


someone is stealing and breaking the law and your worried about the law?


ummmm...


You think a drug dealer will call the cops when you steal his drugs?

"yes hello I'd like to report a crime, someone stole my kilo of coke can you get it back please"


now I see the issue.... everyone is a pussy but the tubes..... someone loan me the money i'll hire the "IT" guy

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Because unlike you who doesn't have a lick of common sense, successful people generally realize that risking everything by breaking the law is not a smart thing to do.

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Because unlike you who doesn't have a lick of common sense, successful people generally realize that risking everything by breaking the law is not a smart thing to do.

unlike cock washer's like yourself...

normal people in life use a risk to reward ratio ... one day in life when you grow up you will learn it as well dipshit


and your statement is just retarded... you see very successful people in jail all the time...

now I bet my "street smarts and common sense" against your's any day of the week and twice on sunday.....

[Agent 488]

none of the big tubes and boards are technically breaking the law.

stick to chasing police accidents dude.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

let me get this straight...


someone is stealing and breaking the law and your worried about the law?


ummmm...


You think a drug dealer will call the cops when you steal his drugs?

"yes hello I'd like to report a crime, someone stole my kilo of coke can you get it back please"


now I see the issue.... everyone is a pussy but the tubes..... someone loan me the money i'll hire the "IT" guy

Are you really this stupid? Do you ever stop and wonder why you're not successful despite knowing so much better than those who are? No, of course you don't.

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

unlike cock washer's like yourself...

normal people in life use a risk to reward ratio ... one day in life when you grow up you will learn it as well dipshit


and your statement is just retarded... you see very successful people in jail all the time...

now I bet my "street smarts and common sense" against your's any day of the week and twice on sunday.....

Danza, all kidding aside, I have running shoes that are smarter than you.

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

none of the big tubes and boards are technically breaking the law.

stick to chasing police accidents dude.

A. it was a question no need for bashing.....


B. I just don't see how they are not breaking the law...

what about the FBI warning at front of all videos? does it not state in there something along these lines...





so your telling me redtube has signed papers from all the studios of the videos they have up there?

no joke it's a serious question...

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Danza, all kidding aside, I have running shoes that are smarter than you.

ok whatever... keep em clean you may need them one day to run away from the beating I give you

[DirtyDanza]

all im wondering is why is no one fighting fire with fire?


why all the legal shit and courtroom shit... lawyers can drag shit out for years and years...

if everyone is a pussy then so be it.. that answers my questions.... but fuck ... if they arent going to do something about it then STFU about it?

[BFT3K]

Tubes suck shit! - Always have, always will.

Nothing illegal you say?

Then I suppose ALL of their videos have been USER UPLOADED, right?

I also suppose the feds can knock on the door of anyone running a tube site, and inspect their 2257 records, right?

Just like those of us with proper sites, right?

The first one or two tube owners should have been taken down instantly.

Instead nothing was done, and now the tubes are just another internet cancer....

[WarChild]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

ok whatever... keep em clean you may need them one day to run away from the beating I give you

Yeah I'm pretty damn worried about that let me tell you.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

A. it was a question no need for bashing.....


B. I just don't see how they are not breaking the law...

what about the FBI warning at front of all videos? does it not state in there something along these lines...





so your telling me redtube has signed papers from all the studios of the videos they have up there?

no joke it's a serious question...

if the follow dmca they are legal.

[Dodododa]

The tube sites have thousands of clustered servers. A DDOS attack would need to be enormous. An actual hack into their servers would be very difficult also.

Maybe you could make it look like they're spamming and get them blacklisted from search engines. The tubes aren't the problem, it's Google telling people to go to them.

[WarChild]

You guys are so silly. You think the tube site owners are stupid? You think they won't respond to an illegal act?

Try registering and running one of their trademark tube domains. Give it a try, register freepornhub.com or something like that and build it up. Watch how fast you get pimp slapped by Manwin.

The guys running the big tubes are smart and crafty. The answer is not trying to fight them with ignorance and stupidity.

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Tubes suck shit! - Always have, always will.

Nothing illegal you say?

Then I suppose ALL of their videos have been USER UPLOADED, right?

I also suppose the feds can knock on the door of anyone running a tube site, and inspect their 2257 records, right?

Just like those of us with proper sites, right?

The first one or two tube owners should have been taken down instantly.

Instead nothing was done, and now the tubes are just another internet cancer....

thats kind of the point I am making....

I mean having a hacker take down servers for hours at a time... planting shit on the tubes to infect surfers comp so they no longer have trust in tubes.. etc etc there is a ton of shit that can be done... I don't know that much about servers nor do I hack or i'd do it myself....

but there has to be some sorts of neusances that can be done to fuck with them....

I remember one day a restaraunt pissed me off... I hired mexicans to stand out front with signs the next day... day after that I had an apology letter with a check refund for what I was asking for to begin with....

moral of story is a good fucking with can slow anyone down......


im just trying to look out for everyone in the industry then I get bashed for it .... oh well....

[dyna mo]

Originally Posted by WarChild

Danza, all kidding aside, I have running shoes that are smarter than you.

fuck, that's funny shit right there!

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by WarChild

You guys are so silly. You think the tube site owners are stupid? You think they won't respond to an illegal act?

Try registering and running one of their trademark tube domains. Give it a try, register freepornhub.com or something like that and build it up. Watch how fast you get pimp slapped by Manwin.

The guys running the big tubes are smart and crafty. The answer is not trying to fight them with ignorance and stupidity.

but sometimes brute force works best.....

it's jut going to take one good hacker, one good attorney...


and your right they are not stupid.... but yet it's not a lost battle something can still be done it just hasn't been found yet....

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

thats kind of the point I am making....

I'm just trying to look out for everyone in the industry then I get bashed for it .... oh well....

From what I can tell, no one has ANY real friends in this business anyway. Everyone is just out for themselves - out for the quick buck - blind to the long term ramifications.

Pretty sad really...

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

From what I can tell, no one has ANY real friends in this business anyway. Everyone is just out for themselves - out for the quick buck - blind to the long term ramifications.

Pretty sad really...

mainstream internet is 1000X more shady and cutthroat than adult. you get fucked harder and deeper in brick and mortar businesses and your margins are huge so it hurts more as well.

the idea that adult is somehow more shady than other markets is a joke.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

The first one or two tube owners should have been taken down instantly.

Instead, the "G" (Google) bought them for millions.

[DBS.US]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

here is my question to the "big program owners"

why not hire a fucking IT guy for this conversation we will call him a (hacker)

put him on salary and his sole job is to make the tube site owners life living hell?

That's a great idea, but you have to do it first, then post on how great it worked for you, then the sheep will follow. Right now everyone is busy building there own tube sites.

[Agent 488]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Instead, the "G" (Google) bought them for millions.

yeah like the porn industry created the tube model. people get so locked in their own little model and market they can't see the forest for the trees.

[jkthedesigner]

First of all, it's not the best idea, but it's not the worst. It wouldn't be easy, but it definitely wouldn't be impossible. There are a few ways to take them down through third parties. It'll cost you a pretty penny though. The most effective method you mentioned was planting a virus on the site. A tube being down for a week hurts them but isn't that bad. Their overhead is server costs for christs sake lol. Every bug in their custom scripts are holes waiting to be exploited. Just find the right guy.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

let me get this straight...


someone is stealing and breaking the law and your worried about the law?


ummmm...


You think a drug dealer will call the cops when you steal his drugs?

"yes hello I'd like to report a crime, someone stole my kilo of coke can you get it back please"


now I see the issue.... everyone is a pussy but the tubes..... someone loan me the money i'll hire the "IT" guy

I did that once...One of most stupid things which i did in life.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by PR_Glen

because that would be illegal?

Yes it is illegal,but what is funny thing,holywood companies hires indian companies to ddos those sites which doesn't comply with their DMCA letters.

[MrBottomTooth]

Better option might be to hire someone to do nothing but send DMCA takedown notices to them for your content, and if they don't follow the process to the letter of the law then you can get them in trouble. The way the DMCA is now, it is basically a license to steal.

[DirtyDanza]

legal issues aside.. I can assure you that if you were the person responsable for taking down the tube sites.. you'd have enough support for legal fee's and it's very easy to taint jury's

look at Max Hardcore he was convicted on a tainted jury.. just have to taint them back to our side of the field...

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

Better option might be to hire someone to do nothing but send DMCA takedown notices to them for your content, and if they don't follow the process to the letter of the law then you can get them in trouble. The way the DMCA is now, it is basically a license to steal.

that would only do my stuff....


I am trying to help the whole industry not just me...

I know it's strange to hear of someone in adult not wanting to just help themselvs but I am wanting to help us all....

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Yes it is illegal,but what is funny thing,holywood companies hires indian companies to ddos those sites which doesn't comply with their DMCA letters.

Proof or ban.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

thats kind of the point I am making....

I mean having a hacker take down servers for hours at a time... planting shit on the tubes to infect surfers comp so they no longer have trust in tubes.. etc etc there is a ton of shit that can be done... I don't know that much about servers nor do I hack or i'd do it myself....

but there has to be some sorts of neusances that can be done to fuck with them....

I remember one day a restaraunt pissed me off... I hired mexicans to stand out front with signs the next day... day after that I had an apology letter with a check refund for what I was asking for to begin with....

moral of story is a good fucking with can slow anyone down......


im just trying to look out for everyone in the industry then I get bashed for it .... oh well....

You have to realize that there are a lot of people here who are in bed with them. But kudos to you for speaking out. Long ago as an industry we would have all ganged up on these guys and made it a living hell for them. Sponsors wouldn't pay them, affiliates would refuse to promote them, and many sites would even ban people who did business with such people. These days they own the programs, content, and much of the traffic and now those who don't steal or tolerate it are somehow seen as the ones in the wrong by many.

I don't think the answer is hacking the shit out of them though. I think there is sufficient opportunity to go after them legally and cause them all sorts of hell. I'll tell you that I've seen one or two of these guys admit things right here on GFY that could potentially cause them a lot of trouble if it got back to the courts. There are holes in their game. All you need is the cash and the motivation to go after them legally and see it through. They are not untouchable. The problem is that if someone gets them on the ropes they'll start throwing out the millions to bribe you and prevent you from giving them a good solid KO.

Again, respect to you for speaking out. I'll try to send some traffic.

[Barefootsies]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

You have to realize that there are a lot of people here who are in bed with them.

Money talks chief.

[CaptainHowdy]

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

all im wondering is why is no one fighting fire with fire?


why all the legal shit and courtroom shit... lawyers can drag shit out for years and years...

if everyone is a pussy then so be it.. that answers my questions.... but fuck ... if they arent going to do something about it then STFU about it?

if I ever thought that was the direction I needed to go I wouldn't talk about it at a forum

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Agent 488

mainstream internet is 1000X more shady and cutthroat than adult. you get fucked harder and deeper in brick and mortar businesses and your margins are huge so it hurts more as well.

the idea that adult is somehow more shady than other markets is a joke.

I agree. seen it in action myself

[NetHorse]

ha ha, yeah good luck with that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not against a little vigilante justice as long it's not my neck on the line.

Go ahead, pay an "IT guy" aka, hacker to commit illegal felonies for you. The first thing he will do is extort you. Hackers are nitrous for doing it to their 'clients', especially well paying ones with a lot to lose, aka, "big program owners".

So why don't big program owners do it?

Prison time?
Retaliation?
Extortion?

Just because you think it's justifiable don't think it won't come back to bite you. The end result could be 10 times worse than what you're currently dealing with.

[Klen]

Originally Posted by Barefootsies

Proof or ban.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/Hollywoo...news-7970.html

[ottopottomouse]

Originally Posted by DirtyDanza

you see very successful people in jail all the time...

Not really something to aspire to

[Hentaikid]

Money would be better spent on lawyers

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Not really something to aspire to

agreed.. was just pointing out that success has nothing to to with brains...



college prof pay is nothing and they are smart motherfuckers....

and how many of you have met that dood thats worth millions and your like "really.... everything ive tried in my life and this fool is making millions?"


example

The Situation and jersey shore cast....

[DirtyDanza]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

You have to realize that there are a lot of people here who are in bed with them. But kudos to you for speaking out. Long ago as an industry we would have all ganged up on these guys and made it a living hell for them. Sponsors wouldn't pay them, affiliates would refuse to promote them, and many sites would even ban people who did business with such people. These days they own the programs, content, and much of the traffic and now those who don't steal or tolerate it are somehow seen as the ones in the wrong by many.

I don't think the answer is hacking the shit out of them though. I think there is sufficient opportunity to go after them legally and cause them all sorts of hell. I'll tell you that I've seen one or two of these guys admit things right here on GFY that could potentially cause them a lot of trouble if it got back to the courts. There are holes in their game. All you need is the cash and the motivation to go after them legally and see it through. They are not untouchable. The problem is that if someone gets them on the ropes they'll start throwing out the millions to bribe you and prevent you from giving them a good solid KO.

Again, respect to you for speaking out. I'll try to send some traffic.

I agree.. do something....


reminds me of max going to jail.. everyone stood by and was like oh serves him right for his content...

no one realizes that in the eyes of the general public were all just pornographers ... weather we shoot solo or rough shit like myself...

makes me wonder wtf....

I for one vote to go back old school I want another boob war at internext in the near very near future

[arock10]

hire mexicans to stand outside the illegal tubes