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Old 01-04-2011, 02:30 PM   #51
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Seeing as how no one has ever died from smoking too much weed, I'm wondering how they calculated the fatal dosage.
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Old 01-04-2011, 03:53 PM   #55
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yes i second that, i'm a frequent cannabis user and i dont act like an activist, sadly theres a big part of stoners that ruin legalization by their lifestyle, people that wants this legalized but wont contribute to anything in the country they're located




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Old 01-04-2011, 04:06 PM   #56
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Right. So no musicians, doctors, psychologists, athletes, teachers smoke weed?

If you're a loser, it's not weed's fault.
Like I said, anything moderation is okay.
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:26 PM   #58
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I think anything is better than alcohol. Dont get me wrong, I enjoy a drink every now and then, but I would MUCH rather deal with a pot head than an alcoholic
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Old 01-04-2011, 05:28 PM   #59
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and been that way for years... LOL
Same in NYC even though it's not all that legal to do so there.
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I have yet to see A TRULY ANGRY person on pot (and pot only). Alcohol, on the other hand, is another story entirely. Sheesh.
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Old 01-04-2011, 07:44 PM   #61
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Those are the FACTS, I'm not going to go into studies, or hearsay. Nothing will kill you in moderation, but if you smoke all day, everyday and think it's "healthy" you're in for a wake up call.
I agree, with the caveat that ANY substance when abused will end up being bad for you. Drink too much water and you're gonna suffer from Hyponatremia and it can be fatal.

The question is, if pot's side effects are milder than alcohol's, why is it still illegal?

Why are people being sent to jail for what is basically a version of getting drunk? Why let criminal elements control what can be a significant source of revenue for the government, just like alcohol when prohibition was in effect?
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I agree, with the caveat that ANY substance when abused will end up being bad for you. Drink too much water and you're gonna suffer from Hyponatremia and it can be fatal.

The question is, if pot's side effects are milder than alcohol's, why is it still illegal?

Why are people being sent to jail for what is basically a version of getting drunk? Why let criminal elements control what can be a significant source of revenue for the government, just like alcohol when prohibition was in effect?
First of all, I think marijuana should be legalized.

Marijuana is apart of the controlled substances act due to being perceived as an addictive drug the same as narcotics. People have become comfortable with the status quo for nearly a century on the federal ban on marijuana. Unfortunately, bans like that aren't changed without overwhelming support.

There is no denying your argument is compelling. However, advocates for the legalization of marijuana haven't been able to present a case to overturn a ban that's existed for so long. To a lot of the general public the image of a marijuana user is a loser who risks being arrested so that he or she can create a euphoric high. Unfortunately those people aren't taken seriously, especially by lawmakers.

I know that sounds incredibly ignorant, but it IS the unfortunate reality. For example, if a couple was hiring a babysitter they wouldn't frown upon someone who enjoys a few drinks on the weekend. However, replace that with someone who indulges in marijuana that person is automatically perceived as irresponsible.

There is also a lot of false propaganda that Marijuana cures diseases and that it has no side effects. We spend a lot of money telling people to "drink responsibly" and that cigarettes cause cancer.

A false perception that you can get high all day with no consequences is a battle nobody wants to take on. Just look at this thread. While Marijuana is not as bad as alcohol, the fact is, most users are in complete denial that it is unhealthy. They will argue to the death that it is perfectly healthy and it has no negative side effects. When in-fact many users who make that argument grossly abuse the drug from morning to night 7 days a week with a lifestyle that revolves around the use of marijuana.

For those reasons I don't marijuana will ever be legalized here.
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sure, not as many as alchochol at all! Again , the things that bothered me is that when listing alchochol related deaths list always counts death caused by out stupid behaviour while drunk while for marijuana people always say "zero deaths", ignoring accidents%deaths caused by being stoned.Apples and oranges.
i think my overall point was alcohol related deaths are huge, marijuana deaths are almost non-existent

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no, what i said is that not everyone smokes pure marijuana.maybe in usa but in other countries they mix it with tobacco&additives so smoking this mix also causes cancer. So fair comparison is pure nicotine death and pure marijuana death OR smoking cigarettes and smoking (not pure) pot.
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agreed and once again, what bothers me is that marijuana smokers present it like absolutely no harm, no deaths, no lives ruined thing ...it is just not true...it is far less devastating than alcohol but it is no way harmless like pro.activists are portraying it...
harmless? , no , less harmfull than hundreds of everyday legal things we use ? yes

I don't tell people how to drink coffee , eat salt , or eat sugar , even though all of them are harmfull
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Depending on how things went during some stupid law making, we could all be smoking joints over dinner instead of having beer or wine. If you try to tell that to someone who is against weed, they can't even fathom the situation. Weed has an undeserved stigma, and i have no idea where that started.
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People die from drinking alcohol , doesnt mean drinking milk has the same risks.
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In 10-15 years you'll wake up an anti-social, delusional, paranoid, out-of-shape parasite who can't run a block without gasping for air. Oh yeah, I still see buddies of mine that never quit smoking weed after high school. They're losers. Every single one of them. There is a little propaganda for you.
LOL you're an idiot.

Let me guess you are one of those people who compares peoples "failures" to your "success". You are on a porn webmaster board. Do you know how many people would equate you to a loser?

What makes them "losers"? Because they are not like you?

you sound like a great friend!

I know many successful people who smoke weed.

Do you know how I know you are a loser? You equate your life position with your buddies from high school.

I can also bet the majority of your friends NOW are work "friends".
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Yeah accidents from smoking pot, ZERO, you get stoned and don't want to drive!
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Yeah accidents from smoking pot, ZERO, you get stoned and don't want to drive!
You may cause road rage by driving so !@$# slow.
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They couldn't find any!
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LOL you're an idiot.

Let me guess you are one of those people who compares peoples "failures" to your "success". You are on a porn webmaster board. Do you know how many people would equate you to a loser?

What makes them "losers"? Because they are not like you?

you sound like a great friend!

I know many successful people who smoke weed.

Do you know how I know you are a loser? You equate your life position with your buddies from high school.

I can also bet the majority of your friends NOW are work "friends".
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The winners of course are those who don't play this silly status game. Spending your life chasing the life of someone who is not you is a waste of a life.
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