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Amputate Your Head · 01-09-2011, 10:04 PM

1. I don't NEED booze or drugs. (or programs to get off them)

2. An occasional slip doesn't mean shit.

3. Sobriety is a double-edged sword on many counts.

4. Taking the high road is worthless when you can't use it for your own gain.

5. The whole fucking thing is overrated, although there is something to be said for not being shitfaced 24/7.

I intend to get good n' fucked on my actual 1 year date. (coming up soon, which I will not disclose.) From there we'll see how I feel about it and go from there.

Agent 488 · 01-09-2011, 10:11 PM

how do you deal with boredom?

Amputate Your Head · 01-09-2011, 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

how do you deal with boredom?

i sleep a lot.

quiet · 01-09-2011, 10:14 PM

Amputate Your Head · 01-09-2011, 10:21 PM

work is A LOT more work being sober.

a few tequilas improve my work by factors of ten.

xenigo · 01-09-2011, 10:25 PM

I've spent quite a bit of time questioning whether I should continue drinking on a regular basis. My main concern is how alcohol affects the brain in the long-term. I really don't want to be jeopardizing my analytical skills... when you get older, I think you're already in an up-hill battle brain-wise...

Sometimes I like to look back at my previous emails and posts and try to judge whether I'm killing myself or not... it's hard to tell.

Amputate Your Head · 01-09-2011, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo

I've spent quite a bit of time questioning whether I should continue drinking on a regular basis. My main concern is how alcohol affects the brain in the long-term. I really don't want to be jeopardizing my analytical skills... when you get older, I think you're already in an up-hill battle brain-wise...

Sometimes I like to look back at my previous emails and posts and try to judge whether I'm killing myself or not... it's hard to tell.

I know my memory is fucking shot.

what I don't know is whether it was the booze & drugs, or the experimental shit the military put me through.

quiet · 01-09-2011, 10:30 PM

i cut way down on the booze years ago. and in the past couple of months further reduced, just a little red wine with dinner now. hmm.

DWB · 01-09-2011, 10:34 PM

I'm a firm believer that anything in moderation is OK, so long as you can stop doing whatever it is at any time.

Spunky · 01-09-2011, 10:37 PM

Good for you.hope you stay away from your demons.I know my "vices" will kill me eventually

Amputate Your Head · 01-09-2011, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spunky

Good for you.hope you stay away from your demons.I know my "vices" will kill me eventually

I have a leash on my monster.

the problem is, I have more than one monster.

RycEric · 01-09-2011, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I know my memory is fucking shot.

what I don't know is whether it was the booze & drugs, or the experimental shit the military put me through.

or you smoke some shit that's so good it can cripple you. The ability to walk was enough of a game changer for me many years ago. Good for you man.

Agent 488 · 01-09-2011, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric

or you smoke some shit that's so good it can cripple you. The ability to walk was enough of a game changer for me many years ago. Good for you man.

what kind of shit was that?

RycEric · 01-09-2011, 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

good for you. I am sure we will see if your post change in months to come.

Anyway, I've spent 14 years of my adult life sober. 12 straight and then went out for 9 and back again now for 2 years. When I got sober the second time I reviewed the options of AA after spending years in that life before and literally 1000's of AA meetings under my belt.

Fuck those losers crying about life's simple shit all god damn day. I then read the 12 steps again and just fucking laughed because noway would I even do 1 of the 12.

This is what I do know. I got sober at 20 years old and then started drinking at 32 and I NEVER could fully enjoy drinking because in the back of my 12 year 1000's of AA meetings brainwashed mind it always told me I was an an alcoholic. The remedy was to drink more to shut it up. The moral of the story? - If you go to more then 100 AA meetings in a year and stay sober and you are NOT an alcoholic?...you are one now.

I am offered drinks daily and I never get the itch because I wanted to quit and know without a shadow of doubt, I'll never get drunk again. Why? because I don't want too. In all actuality I feel more safe and happy leading a sober life do to the early years of AA brainwashing. In short, it feels normal to me.

AA/NA did nothing for me. I'm not saying it doesn't help because I am sure it has saved thousands of lives, however, if a court says.. "Hey.. you have to go do this for 5 years twice a week".. it just made me more angry... which of course led to continued use. You've got to want it and nobody is going to force sobriety on any addict or alcoholic.

RycEric · 01-09-2011, 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Agent 488

what kind of shit was that?

Some very strong Crystal Meth

leg4 · 01-09-2011, 11:19 PM

My Advice to you.... Is to start drinking heavily.

01-09-2011, 11:24 PM

Congratulations, certainly a milestone.

DWB · 01-09-2011, 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric

AA/NA did nothing for me. I'm not saying it doesn't help because I am sure it has saved thousands of lives, however, if a court says.. "Hey.. you have to go do this for 5 years twice a week".. it just made me more angry... which of course led to continued use. You've got to want it and nobody is going to force sobriety on any addict or alcoholic.

I was never an "addict" but I agree with the fact that a person has to WANT to change to actually change. No law will make them change.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

I have a leash on my monster.

the problem is, I have more than one monster.

You gotta let the monster out to play everyone now in then. You just gotta know when to chain him back up.

RycEric · 01-09-2011, 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I was never an "addict" but I agree with the fact that a person has to WANT to change to actually change. No law will make them change.

Exactly. I watch those "Intervention" shows on cable shaking my head. I realize a big portion of the issues revolve around co-dependency.. but the ending credits usually end up with something like. "Joe returned home with his family after 3 months in a sober living facility." "2 months later Joe relapsed and is now living on the streets. He continues using daily."

Platinumpimp · 01-10-2011, 12:30 AM

Do you see the underworld too when it's full moon?

Antonio · 01-10-2011, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I was never an "addict" but I agree with the fact that a person has to WANT to change to actually change

nah, not entirely true - my father stopped drinking only after he was diagnosed with cirrhosis. He never wanted to change, he simply had to; prior to that he was starting his day with small vodka at 5am, followed by 3-4 liters of wine throughout the day

xenigo · 01-10-2011, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

nah, not entirely true - my father stopped drinking only after he was diagnosed with cirrhosis. He never wanted to change, he simply had to; prior to that he was starting his day with small vodka at 5am, followed by 3-4 liters of wine throughout the day

Damn, that's crazy. I start my day with a Redbull, and end my day at around 7pm with a few beers or a couple vodka cranberries.

If I begin my day with alcohol, I'll crawl back into bed. My entire day becomes entirely wasted.

CPA37710T · 01-10-2011, 01:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xenigo

Damn, that's crazy. I start my day with a Redbull, and end my day at around 7pm with a few beers or a couple vodka cranberries.

If I begin my day with alcohol, I'll crawl back into bed. My entire day becomes entirely wasted.

Xenigo im curious.. how frequent do you drink a week.. i drink maybe 3 times a week.. and sometimes i feel i shud stop doing it that much... am i an alcoholic for that? serious question

Machete_ · 01-10-2011, 02:12 AM

YOU'LL BE BACK. DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE.

COME BACK TO WHERE THE BUZZ IS. YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT.

"NON-DRINKER" IS A NEGATIVE IDENTITY. YOU ARE MORE THAN THAT. EVEN THAT IDENTITY PRESUPPOSES THAT YOU STILL DEFINE YOURSELF AS A DRINKER. YOU CAN'T "NON-DRINK" A BEER.

WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU. NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME, PEOPLE LIKE YOU COME BACK. EVEN IF IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS. IMAGINE GOING FOR FIVE OR TEN YEARS WITHOUT YOUR COMFORTING OLD FRIENDS, THEN ONE DAY YOU HAVE ONE AND YOU ARE RIGHT BACK HOME AS A DRINKER. THINK OF THOSE WASTED FIVE OR TEN YEARS. DON'T DEPRIVE YOURSELF. COME HOME. YOU KNOW YOU WILL. DON'T LET PEER PRESSURE KEEP YOU AWAY FROM YOUR MOST COMFORTING FRIENDS IN THE WHOLE WORLD. YOU MAY ABANDON THEM FOR A WHILE, BUT THEY ARE LOYAL AND FAITHFUL AND PATIENT. THEY WILL NEVER ABANDON YOU. SO, COME BACK TO WHERE THE FLAVOR IS. RELAX. POUR A GLASS. ENJOY. YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO.

SEE YOU SOON!

LOVE,
LIQUOR INDUSTRY

01-10-2011, 05:15 AM

fair play!!
I dont get as wasted as i used to on a staurday any more, usually cause it still affects me on the monday!

96ukssob · 01-10-2011, 05:21 AM

Just out of curiosity, why did you let your drinking/drugs out of hand? Dont get me wrong, I'm happy that you've been sober for a year now but why weren't you able to control the issue before it got out of control?

Even being a psych major this is something that I was never fully able to grasp. Maybe its just me, but like I said curious to understand...

just a punk · 01-10-2011, 05:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

the experimental shit the military put me through.

What are you talking about? You were a subject of some military experiment?

Sarah_Jayne · 01-10-2011, 05:30 AM

Well done and it you have found a place of inner happiness even better.

Grapesoda · 01-10-2011, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

1. I don't NEED booze or drugs. (or programs to get off them)

2. An occasional slip doesn't mean shit.

3. Sobriety is a double-edged sword on many counts.

4. Taking the high road is worthless when you can't use it for your own gain.

5. The whole fucking thing is overrated, although there is something to be said for not being shitfaced 24/7.

I intend to get good n' fucked on my actual 1 year date. (coming up soon, which I will not disclose.) From there we'll see how I feel about it and go from there.

hummm... you quit weed in septemeber .... hardley a year. 21+ years. no slips

pornjudge · 01-10-2011, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

1. I don't NEED booze or drugs. (or programs to get off them)

2. An occasional slip doesn't mean shit.

3. Sobriety is a double-edged sword on many counts.

4. Taking the high road is worthless when you can't use it for your own gain.

5. The whole fucking thing is overrated, although there is something to be said for not being shitfaced 24/7.

I intend to get good n' fucked on my actual 1 year date. (coming up soon, which I will not disclose.) From there we'll see how I feel about it and go from there.

Congrats on that... My brother as 1 month + sobriety, lets hope he makes it to 1 year like u.

Their are better things in life then drugs and alcohol, go get them;)

Grapesoda · 01-10-2011, 07:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CPA37710T

Xenigo im curious.. how frequent do you drink a week.. i drink maybe 3 times a week.. and sometimes i feel i shud stop doing it that much... am i an alcoholic for that? serious question

serious answer: virgins don't wonder if they are pregnant. either you are pregnant or not, no in between and if ya have to ask..... well just saying is all....

CaptainHowdy · 01-10-2011, 07:39 AM

All I learned from this thread is that a privileged personal experience is a very bad argument...

brassmonkey · 01-10-2011, 07:47 AM

2 years for me

congratzz to the losers i mean winners

spazlabz · 01-10-2011, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

I'm a firm believer that anything in moderation is OK, so long as you can stop doing whatever it is at any time.

QFT

fatfoo · 01-10-2011, 08:00 AM

It's good not to use drugs and alcohol. The sober mind will be able to make a better judgement.

br4sco · 01-10-2011, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

1. I don't NEED booze or drugs. (or programs to get off them)

2. An occasional slip doesn't mean shit.

3. Sobriety is a double-edged sword on many counts.

4. Taking the high road is worthless when you can't use it for your own gain.

5. The whole fucking thing is overrated, although there is something to be said for not being shitfaced 24/7.

I intend to get good n' fucked on my actual 1 year date. (coming up soon, which I will not disclose.) From there we'll see how I feel about it and go from there.

wine is good for your heart if you dont over do it, if you drink to much you will kill your liver. anything you smoke is very bad, i have smoked weed for a long long time, to the point where i was smoking an oz every week for 5 years. nowe my lungs are shot, if i tried to smoke weed now, i can feel my lungs swell up and its hard to breathe. the bible has all the answers you need, once you can control your mind there isnt anything you cant do

seeandsee · 01-10-2011, 08:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

1. I don't NEED booze or drugs. (or programs to get off them)

2. An occasional slip doesn't mean shit.

3. Sobriety is a double-edged sword on many counts.

4. Taking the high road is worthless when you can't use it for your own gain.

5. The whole fucking thing is overrated, although there is something to be said for not being shitfaced 24/7.

I intend to get good n' fucked on my actual 1 year date. (coming up soon, which I will not disclose.) From there we'll see how I feel about it and go from there.

it's all in head, for some is easy for some is beast!

MrBottomTooth · 01-10-2011, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amputate Your Head

work is A LOT more work being sober.

a few tequilas improve my work by factors of ten.

That's weird, if I have even 2 beers my brain turns to mush when it comes to working.

MrBottomTooth · 01-10-2011, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyberxxx

What are you talking about? You were a subject of some military experiment?

It came out quite a while ago that they were giving the soldiers in the first Gulf War experimental drugs to protect them against the possible chemical or biological attacks that were anticipated, and which never came.

Most people blame "gulf war syndrome" on these drugs.

(edit, I assume that is what he is referring to)

dyna mo · 01-10-2011, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

good for you. I am sure we will see if your post change in months to come.

Anyway, I've spent 14 years of my adult life sober. 12 straight and then went out for 9 and back again now for 2 years. When I got sober the second time I reviewed the options of AA after spending years in that life before and literally 1000's of AA meetings under my belt.

Fuck those losers crying about life's simple shit all god damn day. I then read the 12 steps again and just fucking laughed because noway would I even do 1 of the 12.

This is what I do know. I got sober at 20 years old and then started drinking at 32 and I NEVER could fully enjoy drinking because in the back of my 12 year 1000's of AA meetings brainwashed mind it always told me I was an an alcoholic. The remedy was to drink more to shut it up. The moral of the story? - If you go to more then 100 AA meetings in a year and stay sober and you are NOT an alcoholic?...you are one now.

I am offered drinks daily and I never get the itch because I wanted to quit and know without a shadow of doubt, I'll never get drunk again. Why? because I don't want too. In all actuality I feel more safe and happy leading a sober life do to the early years of AA brainwashing. In short, it feels normal to me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RycEric

AA/NA did nothing for me. I'm not saying it doesn't help because I am sure it has saved thousands of lives, however, if a court says.. "Hey.. you have to go do this for 5 years twice a week".. it just made me more angry... which of course led to continued use. You've got to want it and nobody is going to force sobriety on any addict or alcoholic.

aa is not about going to meetings, it's about working the steps. not one of the 12 steps mentions going to meetings.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Antonio

nah, not entirely true - my father stopped drinking only after he was diagnosed with cirrhosis. He never wanted to change, he simply had to; prior to that he was starting his day with small vodka at 5am, followed by 3-4 liters of wine throughout the day

exactly.

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xenigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oakland, CA Posts: 8,067	I've spent quite a bit of time questioning whether I should continue drinking on a regular basis. My main concern is how alcohol affects the brain in the long-term. I really don't want to be jeopardizing my analytical skills... when you get older, I think you're already in an up-hill battle brain-wise... Sometimes I like to look back at my previous emails and posts and try to judge whether I'm killing myself or not... it's hard to tell.

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quiet we'll miss you our friend. RIP Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Fernie, BC Posts: 25,115	i cut way down on the booze years ago. and in the past couple of months further reduced, just a little red wine with dinner now. hmm.

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Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	YOU'LL BE BACK. DEEP DOWN, YOU KNOW IT'S TRUE. COME BACK TO WHERE THE BUZZ IS. YOU KNOW YOU WANT IT. "NON-DRINKER" IS A NEGATIVE IDENTITY. YOU ARE MORE THAN THAT. EVEN THAT IDENTITY PRESUPPOSES THAT YOU STILL DEFINE YOURSELF AS A DRINKER. YOU CAN'T "NON-DRINK" A BEER. WE ARE WAITING FOR YOU. NINETY PERCENT OF THE TIME, PEOPLE LIKE YOU COME BACK. EVEN IF IT TAKES SEVERAL YEARS. IMAGINE GOING FOR FIVE OR TEN YEARS WITHOUT YOUR COMFORTING OLD FRIENDS, THEN ONE DAY YOU HAVE ONE AND YOU ARE RIGHT BACK HOME AS A DRINKER. THINK OF THOSE WASTED FIVE OR TEN YEARS. DON'T DEPRIVE YOURSELF. COME HOME. YOU KNOW YOU WILL. DON'T LET PEER PRESSURE KEEP YOU AWAY FROM YOUR MOST COMFORTING FRIENDS IN THE WHOLE WORLD. YOU MAY ABANDON THEM FOR A WHILE, BUT THEY ARE LOYAL AND FAITHFUL AND PATIENT. THEY WILL NEVER ABANDON YOU. SO, COME BACK TO WHERE THE FLAVOR IS. RELAX. POUR A GLASS. ENJOY. YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO. SEE YOU SOON! LOVE, LIQUOR INDUSTRY

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