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Django · 01-12-2011, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

How to learn english?

Seriously, given the history of this assclown with his imaginary employees and other "look at me" stunts, I would not be surprise that little dutch boy is just trying to add an inch to his little tiny e-penis with this.
Come on, this is the guy that runs mega projects like these so he can make 25 cents a day with google ads.

3dmovieforum.com
dexterseason5.com
tsunamiwarninghawaii.com

fucking babelfish

Seriously, Congrats to Jack Sparrow

Paul Markham · 01-12-2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I hear you but I believe more in a balance between the two. I won't deny that if we could all get away with giving out nothing but a few low res censored images again as we did in 1998 we'd all make a lot more money but I don't think that's realistic. Partially because of the need for some sort of marketing to overcome competition. I see 30 sec to 5 minute clips as basically being like commercials for the full product.

I agree with you. For affiliates there's little they can do. If one gives out more free content then the next will give out even more. The one consistent we've had since 1998 is the adding to the free content. It used to be a few softcore images on a few galleries, well few compared to today, now it's full scenes and loads of them on loads of sites.

And less people spending money because there's less need to. When people whoop about converting 1 in 1,000 (99.9% of clicks) we know something is wrong. And that's clicks.

Even 30 second to 5 minutes is too much IMO, but if you compete with people giving away 1,000 of full scenes you've little option.

The solution is to move away from selling what we have been selling when giving away 20 minute scenes to millions would of crashed a server or made the BW bill too excessive. The situation has changed 180 degrees and the industry still sells the same product it did 10 years ago. Make that 30 years ago. Pre-recorded videos are easier to get for free today.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CHMOD

I hope you are joking. A ratio over 1:500 is very bad. Yours are horrible.

Show me a tube doing better then. Or maybe your stats?
Im more then satisfied seeing this is just from one sponsor im pushing. And from reading the replies i think im not doing that horrible at all

Paul Markham · 01-12-2011, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GatorB

Only an idiot would think 1:1000 or more is "good".

Today some have wet dreams of getting that ratio.

999 people walking through your shop and going out the back door to jerk off for free is what 1-1,000 means. Yet people scream about how good it all is.

Paul Markham · 01-12-2011, 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Show me a tube doing better then. Or maybe your stats?
Im more then satisfied seeing this is just from one sponsor im pushing. And from reading the replies i think im not doing that horrible at all

I can show a stats page in minutes, but everyone will scream fake.

The only proof is the Tube site, proof you own it and your bank statement. Showing the wires.

Photoshop is a great tool and whether you used it or not is immaterial, you could of.

Nicky · 01-12-2011, 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Lemme know if you need help nick

Nah thx, It's a WP tube so I'm very familiar with what to do.

Machete_ · 01-12-2011, 04:13 AM

thread full of lies and bullshit

- not tube traffic (for all we know it could have been bought PPC traffic)
- no dates on stats
- Jack Sparrow is a broke attention whore

Machete_ · 01-12-2011, 04:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Atm no im sorry but im fully booked.

sure you are

TheDoc · 01-12-2011, 04:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I agree with you. For affiliates there's little they can do. If one gives out more free content then the next will give out even more. The one consistent we've had since 1998 is the adding to the free content. It used to be a few softcore images on a few galleries, well few compared to today, now it's full scenes and loads of them on loads of sites.

And less people spending money because there's less need to. When people whoop about converting 1 in 1,000 (99.9% of clicks) we know something is wrong. And that's clicks.

Even 30 second to 5 minutes is too much IMO, but if you compete with people giving away 1,000 of full scenes you've little option.

The solution is to move away from selling what we have been selling when giving away 20 minute scenes to millions would of crashed a server or made the BW bill too excessive. The situation has changed 180 degrees and the industry still sells the same product it did 10 years ago. Make that 30 years ago. Pre-recorded videos are easier to get for free today.

In 1998 we had newsgroups, far bigger, far worse than tubes, and everyone was on them. The difference between today and then, In 1998 paysites didn't have full scenes, many didn't have any video at all.

Galleries have always had 10,000's of views to clicks - just like a tube video.

TGP's didn't list affiliate galleries in 1998, they were backdoor sites that traded traffic with cj's and password sites.

The solution is to keep selling exactly what the surfer wants... which includes all types of porn, including pre-recorded porn or any other formats they buy. We don't need to invent a new way to do it, we only need to ask our surfers want they want and provide it.

boneless · 01-12-2011, 04:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Without knowing the start and end dates of a campaign that could of been a week or the whole of 2000.

Tubes get tons of traffic and the surfers bookmark the good ones giving out tons of content.

And turn 10 buyers into 1 buyer.

So how many views on a scene before you get a click to a site and how many surfers does it take to earn a sign up?

As an affiliate there's little you can do to change the trend of less people buying. That ball lies entirely in the court of sponsors.

you talking bout general tubes right? cause niche tubes definitely got their place in this biz and they definitely convert traffic.

it a bit the same as with tgps and mgps, the general ones need boatloads of traffic to make the sales, the niched ones get way less traffic but do make better sales and ratios.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Today some have wet dreams of getting that ratio.

999 people walking through your shop and going out the back door to jerk off for free is what 1-1,000 means. Yet people scream about how good it all is.

If you think doing 20-30k a month from pushing one sponsor is bad, i dont get why you are crying all the time.

Paul Markham · 01-12-2011, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by boneless

you talking bout general tubes right? cause niche tubes definitely got their place in this biz and they definitely convert traffic.

it a bit the same as with tgps and mgps, the general ones need boatloads of traffic to make the sales, the niched ones get way less traffic but do make better sales and ratios.

All Tubes convert. If they didn't they wouldn't exist. Only a fool would say they don't convert. And I'm no fool.

The problem is how many can get off on a tube that WOULD OF BOUGHT a membership?

TGPs converted more than links, but needed more traffic and could get it. Now Tubes convert and need even more traffic.

These are just Alexa stats on 5 tube sites. Don't think of the surfers as all buyers, think of them as people looking for free porn. 3.5 million people just using Alexa stats.

The problem is no one will think 1 year, 2 or even only 6 months down the line. As more people put up more free Tubes trying to sell the same old content we've sold for decades the earnings WILL get worse.

Look at Jack Sparrow's statement. $30k from one sponsor at 1-1,000 = 1,000,000 surfers sent to one site paying him $30 a sign up. How many sponsors pay him that, convert like that and how much traffic does it take to send 1 surfer to a sponsors site. He would have to have something like the traffic Tube8 have to be up there.

Jack I never said it was bad, just said prove it. Otherwise it's suspiciously smells like Bullshit.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I can show a stats page in minutes, but everyone will scream fake.

The only proof is the Tube site, proof you own it and your bank statement. Showing the wires.

Photoshop is a great tool and whether you used it or not is immaterial, you could of.

and i couldnt photoshop a wire i guess?
And im sure im faking it with the sponsors too?

What reason would i have to post fake stats?
How long do you think i would be in this biz, selling adspace to huge sponsors based on fake stats.

I dont give a shit about people trying to trash me, its a motivational for a lot of people ;)

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All Tubes convert. If they didn't they wouldn't exist. Only a fool would say they don't convert. And I'm no fool.

The problem is how many can get off on a tube that WOULD OF BOUGHT a membership?

TGPs converted more than links, but needed more traffic and could get it. Now Tubes convert and need even more traffic.

These are just Alexa stats on 5 tube sites. Don't think of the surfers as all buyers, think of them as people looking for free porn. 3.5 million people just using Alexa stats.

The problem is no one will think 1 year, 2 or even only 6 months down the line. As more people put up more free Tubes trying to sell the same old content we've sold for decades the earnings WILL get worse.

Look at Jack Sparrow's statement. $30k from one sponsor at 1-1,000 = 1,000,000 surfers sent to one site paying him $30 a sign up. How many sponsors pay him that, convert like that and how much traffic does it take to send 1 surfer to a sponsors site. He would have to have something like the traffic Tube8 have to be up there.

Jack I never said it was bad, just said prove it. Otherwise it's suspiciously smells like Bullshit.

Then dont believe me. My bankaccount and lifestyle disagree ;)
but seriously paul, it looks like you rather believe some anons, fake nicks, and trolls. I dont think you have a clue about what i do. Or what sites i run or own. I dont blame you, because i never go to public parties or events. And i love how i can be totally different on a forum then i am in real life.

You value board personas and fakes to much paul. Really.

Why do you think none of the big sponsors or their reps post shit about me?

But hey, keep thinking im a fake like those that dont know anything about me

xholly · 01-12-2011, 06:43 AM

ctr is important when examining ratios on tube sites. don't think ive ever clicked on a sponsor link from a tube site ever

willwank · 01-12-2011, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Its not the on-tour ratios that are bad, those are the same as any other ratios today, its the amount of on-site traffic it takes to get people to the tours, thats where the bad tube ratios are...

Ding, we have a winner.

Exactly why these stats are worthless in a tube ratios vs everything else ratio debate.

Paul Markham · 01-12-2011, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Then dont believe me. My bankaccount and lifestyle disagree ;)
but seriously paul, it looks like you rather believe some anons, fake nicks, and trolls. I dont think you have a clue about what i do. Or what sites i run or own. I dont blame you, because i never go to public parties or events. And i love how i can be totally different on a forum then i am in real life.

You value board personas and fakes to much paul. Really.

Why do you think none of the big sponsors or their reps post shit about me?

But hey, keep thinking im a fake like those that dont know anything about me

I don't take much notice of other posters as I rely on logic. As you can see I posted Alexa stats on 5 Tubes, just to show the traffic trend. I suspect it's way higher than that. Fabian of Manwin said he was getting 20 million surfers. So it might be BS but the trend is more people go to Tubes, NOT TO BUY every day.

I used logic to work out if you make $30K a month off 1 sponsor and convert at 1-1,000. It doesn't take a genius to work out that a VERY BIG Tube site you have there.

You have 6 sponsors over $1,000, 18 doing $400 to $900 ish. Converting at 1-1,000 X 10 viewers to get 1 banner click and getting $30 a sign up you have to have to have millions of surfers on your Tube every day. Unless you're one of the biggest buyers of traffic in Adult. And then what's your profit line?

For that to be daily stats you are way ahead of the pack.

If you're earning $30 off 1-1,000 banner clicks and it's 1-10 viewers. To earn $24,000 a month you need to send 8 million surfers to sponsors a month. That's 80 million Tube surfers a month on your Tube site.

Of course I guessing but maybe I'm guessing low conversion and high payments.

TheDoc · 01-12-2011, 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly

ctr is important when examining ratios on tube sites. don't think ive ever clicked on a sponsor link from a tube site ever

I can't recall ever clicking an ad on google... at that, I don't noticed Pinned threads on GFY, until someone like the Wife points it out to me.

That's the challenge today with advertising today for all of us. Many people tune it out and others don't - but the pool of people that do is growing. That's why we're seeing inline ads in videos, ads being built inline with the content/page more, free reg for better features - thus email, and of course lots of other stuff - including very detailed micro filtering.

Our work is never done, that's for sure..

SpicyM · 01-12-2011, 08:06 AM

why not just post the stats with dates?

justfreemovies · 01-12-2011, 08:11 AM

how much total traffic did it take you to the site to get that type of results? not just to the program but to the actual site?

Choker · 01-12-2011, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Guess tube traffic aint that bad after all.

10k says this is a photochop

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

10k says this is a photochop

Thats 20k total. Lets see your balls now choker.
Come on you pussy, or do you wanna chicken out yet again like last time. Lets put that money where your mouth is.

I'll take that bet.

Splendorous_Male · 01-12-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Thats 20k total. Lets see your balls now choker.
Come on you pussy, or do you wanna chicken out yet again like last time. Lets put that money where your mouth is.

I'll take that bet.

He has 10K and you don't. As soon as he tells you to put your money down you will run with your tail between your legs with some lame excuse.

bns666 · 01-12-2011, 10:42 AM

it is photoshop how else would he add his watermark there?

Choker · 01-12-2011, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

He has 10K and you don't. As soon as he tells you to put your money down you will run with your tail between your legs with some lame excuse.

Of course he will. He just made a 10k bet about that pic being photochopped. So here we go, he owes me 10k. It's obvious that pic is photo chopped as the dates are missing and he has text Mr Frisky overlaid on it, so it most certainly has been photochopped. Show me a sponsor that will overlay that text on your stats. You need my wire info now Frisky fuck? LOL. IDIOT

Choker · 01-12-2011, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bns666

it is photoshop how else would he add his watermark there?

Bingo, but it's too late, he accepted the bet didn't he?

96ukssob · 01-12-2011, 10:56 AM

did you buy tube traffic and forward it to a sponsor or do you have a tube site and that is YOUR traffic?

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Choker

Bingo, but it's too late, he accepted the bet didn't he?

Lol, so thats how you wanna play it haha. Was obvious you would chicken out.

Btw. you lost, i didnt use photoshop

Pussssssyyyyy

LeRoy · 01-12-2011, 10:58 AM

Here we go again lol

Splendorous_Male · 01-12-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Lol, so thats how you wanna play it haha. Was obvious you would chicken out.

Btw. you lost, i didnt use photoshop

Pussssssyyyyy

Its funny how this idiots ass is being handed to him over and over again, yet he turns around and says "You lose".
Pathetic bum.

Choker · 01-12-2011, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Its funny how this idiots ass is being handed to him over and over again, yet he turns around and says "You lose".
Pathetic bum.

He is afterall the GFY village idiot.

CrkMStanz · 01-12-2011, 11:30 AM

Arguing that there is money to be made in free porn is akin to a bunch of hobos pointing at an abandonded trailer park, bragging about how there is bottles there to be picked and there is still money to be made.

sure, a few of them will make a few bucks

but the big picture is - its still an industry going to hell in a handbasket

.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 12:10 PM

I agree. But its not tubes that caused that but the so called people in the adult entertainment shooting themself in the feet.

Look at this thread, 1 screenshot and over 4 pages long. Most of the replies coming from washed up veterans going broke like choker, fakenicks, and people that where banned before posting with anonymous nicknames. Tripping over eachother to post their next jealousu filled post.

Jealousy and egotripping losers without any biz knowledge caused the downfall of the adult entertainment. Nothing mote, nothing less.

I dont mind though, im more then happy with my bankroll each month

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Originally Posted by CrkMStanz

Arguing that there is money to be made in free porn is akin to a bunch of hobos pointing at an abandonded trailer park, bragging about how there is bottles there to be picked and there is still money to be made.

sure, a few of them will make a few bucks

but the big picture is - its still an industry going to hell in a handbasket

.

Splendorous_Male · 01-12-2011, 12:25 PM

Lol. Look at the village idiot trying to grow his e-penis. Im pretty sure choker makes 10 times of you make and he is not going broke.
hey, how much is banner spot on you dexterseason5.com site? I'll give you 2 bucks.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 12:29 PM

Collecting plastic bottles from the street made you 2 bucks?
Congrats man! Btw. Hows rick doing? Still jerking off with one arm *cough rofffffl*

Splendorous_Male · 01-12-2011, 12:47 PM

Plastic bottle? Rick? This must be Dutch sense of humor we all heard about. Noooooot..
So how much for banner spot on dexterseasonnumber5.com website? How about hawaiitsunamiwarning.com ?

Choker · 01-12-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

I agree. But its not tubes that caused that but the so called people in the adult entertainment shooting themself in the feet.

Look at this thread, 1 screenshot and over 4 pages long. Most of the replies coming from washed up veterans going broke like choker, fakenicks, and people that where banned before posting with anonymous nicknames. Tripping over eachother to post their next jealousu filled post.

Jealousy and egotripping losers without any biz knowledge caused the downfall of the adult entertainment. Nothing mote, nothing less.

I dont mind though, im more then happy with my bankroll each month

This coming from the king of getting banned and making fake nics. LOL. Man you really really are pathetic. You are the village idiot around here, and whats really so pathetic is that in your teeny little brain you actually think people admire you. LOL, priceless entertainment you are.

Choker · 01-12-2011, 01:09 PM

If those stats were real the program owner would back you up? Of course they would, where are they? Why don't they post in this thread to back you up? The reason is real simple, NOBODY wants to be associated with your dumb ass. How pathetic, you make a post to get attention and actually spend the time to photochop fake stats so you can attempt to make people think you are making money? good god man you are beyond pathetic, Keep making posts like this though, we need entertainment.

Nicky · 01-12-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

He would have to have something like the traffic Tube8 have to be up there.

Hardy har har.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 01:46 PM

So choker, you wanna take that bet then?
Come on dont be a pussy now, double or nothing 20k us dollars. Or will you chicken out again showing how big of a pussy you are?

Splendorous_Male · 01-12-2011, 03:28 PM

Oh no, Choker! Are you saying that his employees - Marco, eastwood, bromedia weren't real and it was him posting and getting banned because of stolen content, false accusations and other stuff we shouldn't be saying here? No fucking way! Nooo way this assclown would do that.

PS: moron, you don't have 10K.

Jack Sparrow · 01-12-2011, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Oh no, Choker! Are you saying that his employees - Marco, eastwood, bromedia weren't real and it was him posting and getting banned because of stolen content, false accusations and other stuff we shouldn't be saying here? No fucking way! Nooo way this assclown would do that.

PS: moron, you don't have 10K.

if he said that he would be long gone from gfy

choker come on, 20k, escrow, you and me

Splendorous_Male · 01-12-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

if he said that he would be long gone from gfy

choker come on, 20k, escrow, you and me

He already offered you to use Eric as escrow. You chickened out. I know Im not the first one to say this but choker owns your sorry pimpled ass. Now live with it Mr. Butthurt.

mineistaken · 01-12-2011, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Read what he said you dumb kangaroo fucking farmer !!!

Yes, he promised the owners not to tell about their program. Makes perfect sense for the owners.

Thread too long, was this answered? I am also curious to know why would owners made him promise not to out their program. I can imagine only one way they would not want to be outed - if they were paying for joins on illegal tube, otherwise?

CamTraffic · 01-12-2011, 06:01 PM

why are the dates missing
congrats on the sales!

maxjohan · 01-12-2011, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Those are daily stats.

You make that in a day? Or did I miss something. If they are one week stats, I barley believe you but it's possible.

Don't leave the dates out next time.

Choker · 01-12-2011, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mineistaken

Thread too long, was this answered? I am also curious to know why would owners made him promise not to out their program. I can imagine only one way they would not want to be outed - if they were paying for joins on illegal tube, otherwise?

They don't want to be outed because "they" are fictional, just like the stats frisky posted are "fictional". That's how pathetic he is. Pitiful isn't it?

CPA37710T · 01-12-2011, 08:19 PM

Dunno whats the big deal on stats, i mean its normal stats!... why everyone wants to say he's full of shit, his stats are totally doable.. check mine

now can we check other threads?? not defending anyone just that this has turned an unnecesary argument

Machete_ · 01-12-2011, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Choker

10k says this is a photochop

Jakez · 01-12-2011, 11:47 PM

Losing whatever respect I had for you Choker, why lower yourself to the troll status of these other troublemakers? I don't pay attention to who's doing what on here really but from the looks of this thread it's just a bunch of faggots talking shit to the OP just because they don't like him. Take him up on the bet straight up so you guys can provide some actual entertainment or just leave him alone?

There's no reason to think the stats are fake because they are EXTREMELY EASILY REAL. It's not even a decent ratio so what the fuck do you retards have your panties in such a bunch for? Shut the fuck up.

You guys think the general consensus of the thread is that the OP is "losing" whatever BS the trolls started with him in it but forget that fact that the only people in disagreement with him are the ones with opinions that don't matter and just go around starting shit in every thread. Meanwhile there's plenty of people who read and don't post that wish you guys would just stfu. This is the scenario is every thread that goes this way and it's so damn childish it's pathetic.

01-12-2011, 08:11 AM	#120
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01-12-2011, 10:56 AM	#127
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01-12-2011, 11:30 AM	#132
CrkMStanz Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 517	Arguing that there is money to be made in free porn is akin to a bunch of hobos pointing at an abandonded trailer park, bragging about how there is bottles there to be picked and there is still money to be made. sure, a few of them will make a few bucks but the big picture is - its still an industry going to hell in a handbasket . __________________ believe me - without free porn, just as many people will seek porn out on the Internet, and many more will pay if there is no free alternative, its not like sex is a fad - it can be milked much like any renewable resource - long term i wasn't born with enough middle fingers - Marilyn Manson

01-12-2011, 04:13 AM	#107
Machete_ WINNING! Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 14,579	thread full of lies and bullshit - not tube traffic (for all we know it could have been bought PPC traffic) - no dates on stats - Jack Sparrow is a broke attention whore

01-12-2011, 06:43 AM	#115
xholly Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 817	ctr is important when examining ratios on tube sites. don't think ive ever clicked on a sponsor link from a tube site ever

01-12-2011, 08:06 AM	#119
SpicyM Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 4,547	why not just post the stats with dates?

01-12-2011, 12:25 PM	#134
Splendorous_Male So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 549	Lol. Look at the village idiot trying to grow his e-penis. Im pretty sure choker makes 10 times of you make and he is not going broke. hey, how much is banner spot on you dexterseason5.com site? I'll give you 2 bucks. Last edited by Splendorous_Male; 01-12-2011 at 12:28 PM..

01-12-2011, 12:29 PM	#135
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	Collecting plastic bottles from the street made you 2 bucks? Congrats man! Btw. Hows rick doing? Still jerking off with one arm cough rofffffl Last edited by Jack Sparrow; 01-12-2011 at 12:30 PM..

01-12-2011, 12:47 PM	#136
Splendorous_Male So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 549	Plastic bottle? Rick? This must be Dutch sense of humor we all heard about. Noooooot.. So how much for banner spot on dexterseasonnumber5.com website? How about hawaiitsunamiwarning.com ?

01-12-2011, 01:09 PM	#138
Choker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Orlando Posts: 9,024	If those stats were real the program owner would back you up? Of course they would, where are they? Why don't they post in this thread to back you up? The reason is real simple, NOBODY wants to be associated with your dumb ass. How pathetic, you make a post to get attention and actually spend the time to photochop fake stats so you can attempt to make people think you are making money? good god man you are beyond pathetic, Keep making posts like this though, we need entertainment. __________________ ICQ me lets make a deal 116894466 Need dating, cam, or tube traffic? I got it.http://http://www.chokertraffic.com The Original http://www.chokertraffic.com/ Premium country pop-unders from $1.50 per k. I challenge you to compare this traffic to any other brokers. http://www.chokertraffic.com/public/tabs.php?t=o

01-12-2011, 01:46 PM	#140
Jack Sparrow Almost goners.. Industry Role: Join Date: May 2008 Location: Netherlands Posts: 11,420	So choker, you wanna take that bet then? Come on dont be a pussy now, double or nothing 20k us dollars. Or will you chicken out again showing how big of a pussy you are?

01-12-2011, 03:28 PM	#141
Splendorous_Male So Fucking Banned Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 549	Oh no, Choker! Are you saying that his employees - Marco, eastwood, bromedia weren't real and it was him posting and getting banned because of stolen content, false accusations and other stuff we shouldn't be saying here? No fucking way! Nooo way this assclown would do that. PS: moron, you don't have 10K.

01-12-2011, 06:01 PM	#145
CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,536	why are the dates missing congrats on the sales! __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE!

01-12-2011, 08:19 PM	#148
CPA37710T business ready hit me up! Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nearby Posts: 1,115	Dunno whats the big deal on stats, i mean its normal stats!... why everyone wants to say he's full of shit, his stats are totally doable.. check mine now can we check other threads?? not defending anyone just that this has turned an unnecesary argument

01-12-2011, 11:47 PM	#150
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	Losing whatever respect I had for you Choker, why lower yourself to the troll status of these other troublemakers? I don't pay attention to who's doing what on here really but from the looks of this thread it's just a bunch of faggots talking shit to the OP just because they don't like him. Take him up on the bet straight up so you guys can provide some actual entertainment or just leave him alone? There's no reason to think the stats are fake because they are EXTREMELY EASILY REAL. It's not even a decent ratio so what the fuck do you retards have your panties in such a bunch for? Shut the fuck up. You guys think the general consensus of the thread is that the OP is "losing" whatever BS the trolls started with him in it but forget that fact that the only people in disagreement with him are the ones with opinions that don't matter and just go around starting shit in every thread. Meanwhile there's plenty of people who read and don't post that wish you guys would just stfu. This is the scenario is every thread that goes this way and it's so damn childish it's pathetic. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati Last edited by Jakez; 01-13-2011 at 12:01 AM..