So tube traffic is bad? No money in porn? Guess what..

[Jack Sparrow]

Guess tube traffic aint that bad after all.

[fris]

nice stats ;)

[sweetcuties]

damn, I got wood

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by fris

nice stats ;)

Thanks.

Originally Posted by sweetcuties

damn, I got wood

I got morning wood. Well, thats because i always get up early to check stats before doing something else lol.

[cybermike]

Just one question why did you cut off the dates?

[Si]

not bad at all there!

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by cybermike

Just one question why did you cut off the dates?

Because those stats are fake.

Love how he named the file: friskyownage.jpg

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Because those stats are fake.

Love how he named the file: friskyownage.jpg

Sure lol whatever you want to believe haha

[tranza]

$38 per sale? Which program is that??

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by tranza

$38 per sale? Which program is that??

Well its not $38 per sale normally, i get a special treatment for being dutch
Just kidding, but i promised not to tell what program because of it, hence why i cut out some of the screen.

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Well its not $38 per sale normally, i get a special treatment for being dutch
Just kidding, but i promised not to tell what program because of it, hence why i cut out some of the screen.

Yes, the owners want to keep it secret so they don't get any new affiliates. Its a new marketing strategy. Idiot.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Yes, the owners want to keep it secret so they don't get any new affiliates. Its a new marketing strategy. Idiot.

Lol, you dumbass anon. The fact you dont get it makes you look even gayer then you are already haha

[adultwebmestar]

Why you need to promote adyea & other shit? You can earn eight times more (ppc) with paysites, if your stat is real.

[CaptainHowdy]

Good stuff...

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Lol, you dumbass anon. The fact you dont get it makes you look even gayer then you are already haha

What ever loser. Just like the 10K you couldn't trust admin with. Fuck off. Everyone know you are nothing but a clown.

[iamtam]

I notice that the tube traffic days are 10 times worse converting than the low traffic days.

[Sausage]

Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Yes, the owners want to keep it secret so they don't get any new affiliates. Its a new marketing strategy. Idiot.

Actually only an idiot would share a sponsor converting well.

Idiot. ;)

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Sausage

Actually only an idiot would share a sponsor converting well.

Idiot. ;)

How would he know, he is just a brokeass anon that has been banned from gfy and needs to hide who he really is.

[TeenCat]

post proof or banned ... lol

nice nice!!

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by TeenCat

post proof or banned ... lol

Why is it always the idiots that demand proof when its right in front of them?

You see, the REAL people know how to reply, and the trolls and fakenicks just come out to show how dumb they really are

You shouldnt be one of them teencat, i know you are working hard, just make sure you dont hang with the wrong crowd man. It makes you look .. well.. you know.

[fpaul90]

good stats :P

[mizmiz]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Why is it always the idiots that demand proof when its right in front of them?

You see, the REAL people know how to reply, and the trolls and fakenicks just come out to show how dumb they really are

You shouldnt be one of them teencat, i know you are working hard, just make sure you dont hang with the wrong crowd man. It makes you look .. well.. you know.

Your just a gay piece of shit with no back bone, I bet this stats are for one year you lousy ass smothering lovely asshole.

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by mizmiz

Your just a gay piece of shit with no back bone, I bet this stats are for one year you lousy ass smothering lovely asshole.

Another anon troll. Funny how you guys make yourself look stupid
How on earth would those stats be from one year when its filtered by day dumbwit haha

[mizmiz]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

Another anon troll. Funny how you guys make yourself look stupid
How on earth would those stats be from one year when its filtered by day dumbwit haha

Prove or get deep throat

[Fat Panda]

still dont understand why the dates are cut off

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by mizmiz

Prove or get deep throat

I dont need to prove anything to anon trolls you dumbwit

[Phoenix]

nice sales man

[Paul Markham]

Without knowing the start and end dates of a campaign that could of been a week or the whole of 2000.

Tubes get tons of traffic and the surfers bookmark the good ones giving out tons of content.

And turn 10 buyers into 1 buyer.

So how many views on a scene before you get a click to a site and how many surfers does it take to earn a sign up?

As an affiliate there's little you can do to change the trend of less people buying. That ball lies entirely in the court of sponsors.

[~Ray]

nice stats

~Ray

[Jakez]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So how many views on a scene before you get a click to a site and how many surfers does it take to earn a sign up?

This is what I tried asking before but I guess no one has worked the numbers out. What is the CTR like on ads next to tube videos?

[bns666]

and what are those days with no sales?

how come there are days with 25k uniques daily followed with the ones with less than 100?

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by Sausage

Actually only an idiot would share a sponsor converting well.

Idiot. ;)

Read what he said you dumb kangaroo fucking farmer !!!

Yes, he promised the owners not to tell about their program. Makes perfect sense for the owners.

"Well its not $38 per sale normally, i get a special treatment for being dutch
Just kidding, but i promised not to tell what program because of it"

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by bns666

and what are those days with no sales?

how come there are days with 25k uniques daily followed with the ones with less than 100?

Maybe he must have ran out of pre-paid credit cards. Don't question the king of Turkish traffic and his imaginary employees.

[strobi]

I'm seeing the same kind of ratios too. 1:800-1:1200ish. Love tube traffic

[SomeCreep]

woohooooo, 1998 all over again

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jakez

This is what I tried asking before but I guess no one has worked the numbers out. What is the CTR like on ads next to tube videos?

All I know is from posting samples and full length videos on Tubes the traffic stunk. Was hardly worth my time.

We did have AEBN as an affiliate with their Tube site, they had a link under some porn scenes of ours. It said "See more of Paul Markham Teens videos." The traffic was awesome. Except the moment they found they were on a paysite they clicked right back.

Sausage had a Tube and we were the top voted and viewed scene on it with a banner next to the scene. Never got a sign up.

The vast majority of people are not on Tube sites to pay for porn. Someone is happy converting 99.9% of surfers that click. <shit stats>

[Jakez]

Its not the on-tour ratios that are bad, those are the same as any other ratios today, its the amount of on-site traffic it takes to get people to the tours, thats where the bad tube ratios are...

Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Maybe he must have ran out of pre-paid credit cards. Don't question the king of Turkish traffic and his imaginary employees.

Dude youre clearly a jealous douchebag, get a fucking life.

[signupdamnit]

What's the product (dating, cams, pay sites, pills etc), Jack?

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Without knowing the start and end dates of a campaign that could of been a week or the whole of 2000.

Tubes get tons of traffic and the surfers bookmark the good ones giving out tons of content.

And turn 10 buyers into 1 buyer.

So how many views on a scene before you get a click to a site and how many surfers does it take to earn a sign up?

As an affiliate there's little you can do to change the trend of less people buying. That ball lies entirely in the court of sponsors.

I know you generally don't like any tubes at all but it makes a huge difference which type of tube it is and the traffic sources. There's nothing about a tube which makes it automatically a horrible converter. Don't forget that you can still have a tube filled with nothing but 30 second teaser clips.

Affiliates actually have it pretty good if they are smart. All you need to do is ensure that you can quickly and easily swap out links and content of a sponsor who is not performing. Then you use someone else who converts and keeps their shit off PornBB. It's far easier for an affiliate to walk away from a program or even an entire niche than it is for the average sponsor.

Originally Posted by Jakez

Its not the on-tour ratios that are bad, those are the same as any other ratios today, its the amount of on-site traffic it takes to get people to the tours, thats where the bad tube ratios are...

CTR, yes I agree with that. Part of that is the trend towards large urls on the videos (pay sites). Another part is ad blockers and then there is good old fashioned surfer disinterest.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Its not the on-tour ratios that are bad, those are the same as any other ratios today, its the amount of on-site traffic it takes to get people to the tours, thats where the bad tube ratios are...

That's something people refuse to count or are unable to.

10 views @ 1 banner/link click = 9,999 porn consumers NOT BUYING PORN.

People like Fabian scream that porn is bigger than it ever was and he's right. Never before have so many people consumed porn and so few bought. If 10,000 people walked by a porn shop and only 1 bought for $50. Rent and running costs on that shop could of been $1,000. Working on a 200% mark up a turn over of every $2,000 of sales would produce $1332 in product profit. $332 in real profit.

Which means a street with 400,000 passers by a week.

But the problem is we are not talking about passers by, we're talking about browsers through the shop.

And last thing I read from TheDoc was he's now delivering free porn to peoples desk tops.

I think I got my calculations right.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

I know you generally don't like any tubes at all but it makes a huge difference which type of tube it is and the traffic sources. There's nothing about a tube which makes it automatically a horrible converter. Don't forget that you can still have a tube filled with nothing but 30 second teaser clips.

Affiliates actually have it pretty good if they are smart. All you need to do is ensure that you can quickly and easily swap out links and content of a sponsor who is not performing. Then you use someone else who converts and keeps their shit off PornBB. It's far easier for an affiliate to walk away from a program or even an entire niche than it is for the average sponsor.

I have never thought giving porn consumers free porn was a great idea. See above for the reasons.

[epitome]

Doesn't change the fact that nobody likes you.

[signupdamnit]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I have never thought giving porn consumers free porn was a great idea. See above for the reasons.

I hear you but I believe more in a balance between the two. I won't deny that if we could all get away with giving out nothing but a few low res censored images again as we did in 1998 we'd all make a lot more money but I don't think that's realistic. Partially because of the need for some sort of marketing to overcome competition. I see 30 sec to 5 minute clips as basically being like commercials for the full product.

[sologirlcontent]

Originally Posted by epitome

Doesn't change the fact that nobody likes you.

still won't say the dates of the sales..Typical loser ..If he was making money he wouldn't be busting everyone's balls about stupid shit and He'd be banging a hot chick all the time..but he's constantly trolling others on GFY so it means he's a broke bitch...carry on loser...tell us more about your fantastic tube sales

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by Jakez

Dude youre clearly a jealous douchebag, get a fucking life.

Of what or who? The pimps like you with 5 dollar hosting promos? Oh ye kid.
Lits put it this way, Im 12clicks and you are, well, you're are !
Get it? Now go away.

[CPA37710T]

Stats competition!.. whoever here saying this is fake stats or pissing about it should post their stats to show they got better stuff, whats with the hate man.. i mean the guy just posts stats, who takes the challenge?? why dont you post your stats too

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Without knowing the start and end dates of a campaign that could of been a week or the whole of 2000.

Tubes get tons of traffic and the surfers bookmark the good ones giving out tons of content.

And turn 10 buyers into 1 buyer.

So how many views on a scene before you get a click to a site and how many surfers does it take to earn a sign up?

As an affiliate there's little you can do to change the trend of less people buying. That ball lies entirely in the court of sponsors.

Those are daily stats. I dont get what your question is? A week or the whole of 2000?

I think you are a bit stuck in the same circle you keep thinking paul.
Its not just the sponsors who make something convert, and its not just the affiliates.

To be honest, i think its 50/50. But its hard for people to hear the word "tube" without thinking "ah another guy around that slapped on a tubescript with full free videos".

Originally Posted by Jakez

This is what I tried asking before but I guess no one has worked the numbers out. What is the CTR like on ads next to tube videos?

Its impossible to give any accurate stats just like that. It depends on the kind of tube, the traffic it gets, how it is targetted, how well the adcampaigns are optimized, etc etc.

Ive seen people slap on the same banner on every page of their general niched site. Even the tiniest optimization can work miracles. Why show a teen banner on every page of a site, when someone is clearly interested in milf.. and i can go on and on

Originally Posted by bns666

and what are those days with no sales?

how come there are days with 25k uniques daily followed with the ones with less than 100?

Those are days that i changed the adspots to another sponsor. Thats the fun part, if you set it up right, you can test a lot. I mean, i can test 1 banner for 1 minute if i wanted to.

Originally Posted by Splendorous_Male

Maybe he must have ran out of pre-paid credit cards. Don't question the king of Turkish traffic and his imaginary employees.

Yep, you caught me lol.
I rather be the king of turkish traffic with those stats, then have the need to hide behind some anon nickname and be broke trying to troll gfy

Or well, i still troll gfy all day, but its a nice hobby inbetween checking my numbers

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

All I know is from posting samples and full length videos on Tubes the traffic stunk. Was hardly worth my time.

We did have AEBN as an affiliate with their Tube site, they had a link under some porn scenes of ours. It said "See more of Paul Markham Teens videos." The traffic was awesome. Except the moment they found they were on a paysite they clicked right back.

Sausage had a Tube and we were the top voted and viewed scene on it with a banner next to the scene. Never got a sign up.

The vast majority of people are not on Tube sites to pay for porn. Someone is happy converting 99.9% of surfers that click. <shit stats>

Well thats where i think most people go wrong paul, including you. There is a huge difference between buying a general adspot on some tube that doesnt care about ctr or targetting and buying a highly targetted niched bannerspot on a tube that is run with laser precision.

I know you hate tubes. But there is a big difference in how the owner of a tube is running his "biz".

And, i dont want to hurt your feelings, but just throwing some short videos on a tube and hoping for the best wont get you anything, i can agree with you on that.

Originally Posted by Jakez

Its not the on-tour ratios that are bad, those are the same as any other ratios today, its the amount of on-site traffic it takes to get people to the tours, thats where the bad tube ratios are...


Dude youre clearly a jealous douchebag, get a fucking life.

Just let him jake, we all know he is a dumbass. I love how these haters and trolls come in with their empty pockets trying to make me look bad. Some people even believe them. Nothing funnier then people believing fake fuckers on the internet

Originally Posted by signupdamnit

What's the product (dating, cams, pay sites, pills etc), Jack?



I know you generally don't like any tubes at all but it makes a huge difference which type of tube it is and the traffic sources. There's nothing about a tube which makes it automatically a horrible converter. Don't forget that you can still have a tube filled with nothing but 30 second teaser clips.

Affiliates actually have it pretty good if they are smart. All you need to do is ensure that you can quickly and easily swap out links and content of a sponsor who is not performing. Then you use someone else who converts and keeps their shit off PornBB. It's far easier for an affiliate to walk away from a program or even an entire niche than it is for the average sponsor.



CTR, yes I agree with that. Part of that is the trend towards large urls on the videos (pay sites). Another part is ad blockers and then there is good old fashioned surfer disinterest.

I can agree with most of what you said there.

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

I have never thought giving porn consumers free porn was a great idea. See above for the reasons.

See how you instantly think its about free porn when someone mentions tubes? And even on free tubes they are making mad money. I know you wont believe that. Ive been managing a HUGE multimillion dollar tube thats is BASED on free porn, and stats are like its 1999. Yes that is right, people looking for free porn, can be turned into paying customers.

Originally Posted by epitome

Doesn't change the fact that nobody likes you.

Doesnt change the fact that i dont care. And doesnt change the fact that its fun to see you hoard with the fakenicks and liars. It makes you look real good you know jesse You keep thinking nobody likes me, i wont lose any sleep over that. People that want to make money dont care about board personas or what fake anon nicks have to say about me. One day you will learn that.

Originally Posted by sologirlcontent

still won't say the dates of the sales..Typical loser ..If he was making money he wouldn't be busting everyone's balls about stupid shit and He'd be banging a hot chick all the time..but he's constantly trolling others on GFY so it means he's a broke bitch...carry on loser...tell us more about your fantastic tube sales

I have a hot chick, she has been my girlfriend for over 13 years now. I couldnt be happier Shouldnt you go back to scamming people with lies about "limited offers"

[Jack Sparrow]

Originally Posted by CPA37710T

Stats competition!.. whoever here saying this is fake stats or pissing about it should post their stats to show they got better stuff, whats with the hate man.. i mean the guy just posts stats, who takes the challenge?? why dont you post your stats too

Believe me, those that bitch are fake anons. They dont make money in adult, let alone be able to post stats

[Splendorous_Male]

Originally Posted by CPA37710T

Stats competition!.. whoever here saying this is fake stats or pissing about it should post their stats to show they got better stuff, whats with the hate man.. i mean the guy just posts stats, who takes the challenge?? why dont you post your stats too

Just from buying Turkish traffic from brokers

[sologirlcontent]

Originally Posted by Jack Sparrow

I have a hot chick, she has been my girlfriend for over 13 years now. I couldnt be happier

I seriously DOUBT you have a girlfriend at all....much less a HOT girlfriend..That I can be positive about.. nobody that acts as immature as you could get a good woman..and maybe you were a cool guy 13 years ago and she's just stuck with you...but I bet she's sucking another man's cock NOW...Hell I know I could take her from you easy