Canada moving to "metered" Internet service - GoFuckYourself.com

MrBottomTooth · 01-25-2011, 08:21 AM

This is really a bad idea. We already get screwed on our ridiculously-priced cell phone data plans and now they want to do it to our Internet connections as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1881250/

Petitions usually do nothing, but I signed this one, just in case:

http://openmedia.ca/meter

seeandsee · 01-25-2011, 08:25 AM

they want to control all

marketsmart · 01-25-2011, 08:26 AM

Canadians are not known for being the smartest of people...

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PR_Glen · 01-25-2011, 08:27 AM

that will never pass.. crtc has been a menace in canada for years, they should be decommissioned... they are so out of touch its embarrassing.

No politician will go for this unless they want to get lynched by the ever growing Canadian internet population...

stillsexy · 01-25-2011, 08:28 AM

from capitalism, to socialism, now to communism

MrBottomTooth · 01-25-2011, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Canadians are not known for being the smartest of people...

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moeloubani · 01-25-2011, 08:29 AM

Ugh...signed the petition, I'll be making sure next election that this is an issue I follow up on. Enough of this Rogers or Bell BS let's get some other companies in Canada so shit like this can't happen.

ajrocks · 01-25-2011, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

Canadians are not known for being the smartest of people...

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Yes unlike Americans who love George W and think Sarah Palin is smart.

Rochard · 01-25-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ajrocks

Yes unlike Americans who love George W and think Sarah Palin is smart.

No one thinks that, do they?

BlackCrayon · 01-25-2011, 11:19 AM

don't most already do this? i know if i go over 60 gigs with rogers they'll charge me something like 3 bucks per gig.

flashfire · 01-25-2011, 11:24 AM

shaw gives 100 gigs....if its that kinda number its not really an issue

Phoenix · 01-25-2011, 11:26 AM

you only need max 5gbs unless you are downloading movies all day

with 100 gbs you are fine

_Richard_ · 01-25-2011, 11:30 AM

dear lord. signed and posted to facebook

Itchy · 01-25-2011, 11:55 AM

Bunch of fucking crooks, Bell will push hard for it I bet !

Klen · 01-25-2011, 11:58 AM

Wait no flatrate on internet in Canada?

Dirty Dane · 01-25-2011, 12:05 PM

Can't the ISPs offer plans freely?

"Unmetered" with instant boost is the way

Barefootsies · 01-25-2011, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

JFK · 01-25-2011, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Itchy

Bunch of fucking crooks, Bell will push hard for it I bet !

absolutely, sounds like a marrige made in heaven, Bell and metered service

Itchy · 01-25-2011, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by _Richard_

dear lord. signed and posted to facebook

You sign up for this yet ?
http://www.shaw.ca/en-ca/ProductsSer...The+Fasternet/

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Have you heard? Shaw is bringing unheard of speeds to the Canadian market through exciting trials of our 1 Gigabit Internet service. This service launched in select Vancouver neighbourhoods in June ? and Pinebrook, a suburb west of Calgary, will be the latest area to try out the 1 Gigabit Internet service FREE for six months starting in September!

GatorB · 01-25-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by flashfire

shaw gives 100 gigs....if its that kinda number its not really an issue

Yeah except if you try to watch Netflix or Hulu or something like that.

PR_Glen · 01-25-2011, 12:40 PM

i can't believe they are considering this... If anything they should iron out Canada's monopoly problems before they touch the internet...

Paul Markham · 01-25-2011, 12:44 PM

What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more. Light users pay less.

Like every other service.

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents, great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

Ross · 01-25-2011, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more. Light users pay less.

Like every other service.

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents, great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

MrBottomTooth · 01-25-2011, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

you only need max 5gbs unless you are downloading movies all day

with 100 gbs you are fine

You musn't have kids.

Lamis · 01-25-2011, 12:56 PM

interesting.. now FRIS aka Chris MCGAY is going to be pissed. lol...

It will affect his dirty blackhat tecniques for sure. hehe.

MrBottomTooth · 01-25-2011, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more. Light users pay less.

Like every other service.

Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents, great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

They won't make the light users pay less.

And the whole point of this is that Bell and Shaw are scared of companies like Netflix. Download all the movies you want for a small monthly fee, or pay $4.99 for a single movie on their competing Bell or StarChoice or cable offerings.

Basically you have a monopoly trying to keep things a monopoly by stifling competition.

Sid70 · 01-25-2011, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen

that will never pass.. crtc has been a menace in canada for years, they should be decommissioned... they are so out of touch its embarrassing.

No politician will go for this unless they want to get lynched by the ever growing Canadian internet population...

pls, elaborate on that, what would be done if that thing passes, how can you stop government doign so in Canada?

alf6300 · 01-25-2011, 02:25 PM

i blame canada for this!

MediaGuy · 01-25-2011, 02:53 PM

Already pay enough for access and overage - wtf - I signed. Twittered. Facebooked. What else?

:D

Elli · 01-25-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

Because Scotland is tiny and stringing wires and broadcasting across the Great White North is extremely expensive due to our relatively sparse population and hostile environment?

Just a guess.

bronco67 · 01-25-2011, 04:14 PM

I don't know... wouldn't the only people that get mad about this be the ones downloading 20 Gb of Blu ray movies per day?

If I use less bandwidth, why shouldn't I pay less than leeches that want to suck up everything they can download every second of the fucking day? I don't pay the same amount for my electricity that the local supermarket does, because I don't use as much -- why should the internet be any different?

Also, pirates don't like to pay extra for anything. I doubt they'll download all of those illegal torrents if they know it'll cost an extra 50 bucks a month.

LukeMoney · 01-25-2011, 04:14 PM

Wow that would suck, so much for Netflix and their downloadable movies?

garce · 01-25-2011, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

This is really a bad idea. We already get screwed on our ridiculously-priced cell phone data plans and now they want to do it to our Internet connections as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1881250/

Petitions usually do nothing, but I signed this one, just in case:

http://openmedia.ca/meter

Its already there. I signed up for Bell's "Fibe" service after getting fucked for being one of the first people to sign up for their DSL servince in 2000.

Ten years later, I start getting $60 overage charges. Hey! We'll be able to compete with the world as long as we have oil sands and baby seals to kill. Fuck the future!

Someone should pound the living shit out of this country before it dies from selling off its natural resources. Except for pounding out shit for American corporations, we completely missed the the industrial revolution. We still live off selling whale blubber, fish, and animal skins. Technological advancements? That's just a way for our pathetic monopolies to milk us for every cent we have.

There is no more backwards nation on the face of the Earth.

kaori · 01-25-2011, 10:41 PM

Shaw actually reduced their cap last month.. It used to be 125gb..
Then they shrunk it to 100gb, and will now start charging a per gb overage in April...

They want to continue making money with their 'pay per movie' and cable tv service, and reduce the temptation to use netflix (which was just introduced in Canada a few months ago...).
I don't think the average user knows how big a netflix movie is, and will worry that they might blow through their limit after watching a few downloads...

It's completely a cash grab - last quarter they had record profits:
"Shaw beat expectations on headline earnings before taxes and other expenses as well as revenue, which topped $473 million and $1.08 billion each for the quarter."

facialfreak · 01-26-2011, 01:58 AM

My Videotron Ultimate30 (30mbps) package is actually increasing my cap from 100 gigs to 125 gigs as of February 1 ...

Machete_ · 01-26-2011, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by facialfreak

My Videotron Ultimate30 (30mbps) package is actually increasing my cap from 100 gigs to 125 gigs as of February 1 ...

125 gigs? that's like 4 bluray torrents (average HD movie is 30gig)

stupid canucks

GatorB · 01-26-2011, 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What's wrong with it?

Heavy users pay more.

If you think 100 GB is heavy you're crazy. If you think $2-$3 per GB for overage is "fair" your crazy. Did have you ever have paid for hosting? Does it cost you $2 if someone sues 2 GB of data on your site? Hell no. And you're just website owner. Now think about a whole fucking ISP. No way does it cost them more than 10 cents per GB, to send 1 GB of data. So why are they charging 20X-30X that for overage?

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Like every other service.

If you honestly think that's how it will work you're crazy. Do you think ligheer users that are now paying $50 or more a month are usddenly going to have their bills dropped to $10-$15 a month to reflect thier light useage? HA!

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Sucks if you're a heavy user downloading Bit Torrents,

Not everyone using more than 50 GB is a illegal file share-er.

for example

Watching just ONE HD movie form Netflix a day = 75 GB per month
Watching just one hour a day of Hulu in 720p HD = 20 GB per month

Is this excessive? Major League Baseball has a streming package tha allows me to watch all my Rays games in HD on my PC. If I watch just one game a day that's over 100 GB in a month. How is that excessive? I'm paying over $100 a season and if I dare to use my subscription just ONCE a day I'm being excessive?

Say you have a family of husband wife 2-3 kids. Doing just normal stuff like watching youtube, Netflix, Hulu, playing XBOX 360 or PS3 online, listing to streaming radio is going to EASILY put you over 100 GB a month.

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great if you're a light user logging on to get a few emails.

If one is a light user then WTF is the point of having 50 Mbps service?

Paul Markham · 01-26-2011, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

So all countries should charge the same?

GatorB and Ross welcome to the world of free enterprise.

Grapesoda · 01-26-2011, 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

they want to control all

make more money

pornguy · 01-26-2011, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

Not really, the internet in Canada is already over priced as it is. I lived in Malta June 2009 till June 2010. Internet was 35 euros a month for 10mbit, quite pricey and it cut out like once a week for an hour.

In Canada, I pay $48 for 14mbit, cheaper than Malta, but it's only because I have a package for TV too.

In Scotland, you pay about $50 a month for 50mbit connection.

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

Quit complaining. I pay 150$ US for 6 megs down which is normally about 4 down and 786K up. Its a business class DSL.. for anything faster is a 1.5 down and up for 1k a month

redwhiteandblue · 01-26-2011, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross

I don't know how Scotland can offer cheaper internet than Canada.

They have to, no-one in Scotland has any money.

12clicks · 01-26-2011, 06:42 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBottomTooth

This is really a bad idea. We already get screwed on our ridiculously-priced cell phone data plans and now they want to do it to our Internet connections as well.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1881250/

Petitions usually do nothing, but I signed this one, just in case:

http://openmedia.ca/meter

yeah but you get free health care.

PR_Glen · 01-26-2011, 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Sid70

pls, elaborate on that, what would be done if that thing passes, how can you stop government doign so in Canada?

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Vote them out, replace them with people who better represent the people, it's called a democracy.

DamianJ · 01-26-2011, 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

What's wrong with it?

I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the world is moving to downloading digital content over the last few years. I have a box plugged into my TV that gives me iPlayer. (The BBC's VOD service). That allows me to stream BBC content to my TV directly. A 30 minute 'HD' programme is about 1.5 gig. I pretty much only use it of an evening, and don't watch what is being broadcast. I can easily, legally, do 10 gig a night. Then there is lovefilm in the UK or netflix in the states. They stream too. A movie would be about 3 or 4 gig. Oh and I get my other TV series from iTunes.

The world is moving to this model very quickly, so if the ISPs stifled this growth by metering the internet it would be bad.

HTH

Damian

Angry Jew Cat - Banned for Life · 01-26-2011, 07:38 AM

I've never seen any overcharges on Shaw, and I am pretty damn positive I use well up and above 100gb/month. Maybe I just don't pay enough attention to my bills. Can you actually check your data usage somewhere with them? I just get my eCheck, and pay them out, seems to be the same old consistent charge. Shaw isn't hurting by any means.

Babaganoosh · 01-26-2011, 07:43 AM

I have a sprinkler system that waters my lawn. During the summer it runs 3 times per week. I take two showers per day. My wife takes one. My son takes a bath. Shouldn't my water bill be higher than someone living alone in a one bedroom apartment?

I don't understand why people get bent out of shape when they're asked to pay for what they use. If you can't afford the bandwidth, perhaps you shouldn't use Netflix. Really. If you can't afford fuel would you try to drive cross-country for a vacation?

NetHorse · 01-26-2011, 07:45 AM

Why do you think so many Americans are fighting against Obama's agenda? More bureaucracy = more control, less freedom, more taxes, less social divide.

But ZOMG, Americans have to buy their own health insurance, oh lord, they don't want to tax people making over $200,000 over 40% to spread the wealth.

GatorB · 01-26-2011, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So all countries should charge the same?

GatorB and Ross welcome to the world of free enterprise.

hardly free enterprise especially in canada. Your post shows your ignorance of the topic. why don't you post how much YOU use per month.

GatorB · 01-26-2011, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by NetHorse

Why do you think so many Americans are fighting against Obama's agenda? More bureaucracy = more control, less freedom, more taxes, less social divide.

But ZOMG, Americans have to buy their own health insurance, oh lord, they don't want to tax people making over $200,000 over 40% to spread the wealth.

What does the diarhea coming ourt of your mouth have to do with the topic?

GatorB · 01-26-2011, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Babaganoosh

I have a sprinkler system that waters my lawn. During the summer it runs 3 times per week. I take two showers per day. My wife takes one. My son takes a bath. Shouldn't my water bill be higher than someone living alone in a one bedroom apartment?

I don't understand why people get bent out of shape when they're asked to pay for what they use. If you can't afford the bandwidth, perhaps you shouldn't use Netflix. Really. If you can't afford fuel would you try to drive cross-country for a vacation?

So in otherwords ISP shoudl be able to meter like a utility? Then you should agree then they should be REGULATED as a utility then? Which the ISPs do NOT want. Can't have it both ways.

My gas bill if I don't use it is $6 a month. then I get charge so much per unit. Now if the ISP want to charge this way then they need to LOWER the cost of th basic service FIRST. but they don't want to they want to keep charging $50 a month PLUS overages. Sorry can't have it both way.

If the ISPs want to meter bandwith fine except

A) Base price has to be $10 a month
B) Overages can't be more than 50% over actual cost.

01-25-2011, 08:21 AM	#1
MrBottomTooth Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 5,795	Canada moving to "metered" Internet service This is really a bad idea. We already get screwed on our ridiculously-priced cell phone data plans and now they want to do it to our Internet connections as well. http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1881250/ Petitions usually do nothing, but I signed this one, just in case: http://openmedia.ca/meter __________________ Get Paid Per Email Like The WEGCASH Days!!!!

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PR_Glen Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 9,058	that will never pass.. crtc has been a menace in canada for years, they should be decommissioned... they are so out of touch its embarrassing. No politician will go for this unless they want to get lynched by the ever growing Canadian internet population... __________________ webmaster at pimproll dot com

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BlackCrayon Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ottawa Posts: 19,631	don't most already do this? i know if i go over 60 gigs with rogers they'll charge me something like 3 bucks per gig. __________________ you don't know you're wearing a leash if you sit by the peg all day..

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moeloubani Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Ontario Posts: 4,235	Ugh...signed the petition, I'll be making sure next election that this is an issue I follow up on. Enough of this Rogers or Bell BS let's get some other companies in Canada so shit like this can't happen.

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flashfire ICQ 1 6 7 8 5 3 4 9 2 Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 13,098	shaw gives 100 gigs....if its that kinda number its not really an issue

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Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Wait no flatrate on internet in Canada?

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Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Can't the ISPs offer plans freely? "Unmetered" with instant boost is the way

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Lamis So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 961	interesting.. now FRIS aka Chris MCGAY is going to be pissed. lol... It will affect his dirty blackhat tecniques for sure. hehe.

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bronco67 Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,035	I don't know... wouldn't the only people that get mad about this be the ones downloading 20 Gb of Blu ray movies per day? If I use less bandwidth, why shouldn't I pay less than leeches that want to suck up everything they can download every second of the fucking day? I don't pay the same amount for my electricity that the local supermarket does, because I don't use as much -- why should the internet be any different? Also, pirates don't like to pay extra for anything. I doubt they'll download all of those illegal torrents if they know it'll cost an extra 50 bucks a month. __________________ Last edited by bronco67; 01-25-2011 at 04:16 PM..

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LukeMoney Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 38	Wow that would suck, so much for Netflix and their downloadable movies?

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kaori Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,569	Shaw actually reduced their cap last month.. It used to be 125gb.. Then they shrunk it to 100gb, and will now start charging a per gb overage in April... They want to continue making money with their 'pay per movie' and cable tv service, and reduce the temptation to use netflix (which was just introduced in Canada a few months ago...). I don't think the average user knows how big a netflix movie is, and will worry that they might blow through their limit after watching a few downloads... It's completely a cash grab - last quarter they had record profits: "Shaw beat expectations on headline earnings before taxes and other expenses as well as revenue, which topped $473 million and $1.08 billion each for the quarter."

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facialfreak Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Montreal Posts: 3,018	My Videotron Ultimate30 (30mbps) package is actually *increasing* my cap from 100 gigs to 125 gigs as of February 1 ...

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