amacontent

I find his content disgusting also, but im sure people find Pauls content disgusting does that mean he should go to jail. I find the SAW movie series disgusting, does that mean they should go to jail. I choose not to watch it. Ill say what Danza said, fuck off Paul

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DirtyDanza

I guess you can read but never passed comprehension


ill give you some of his quotes from this thread


"Nice to see what side of the fence you're on. "

"The support for this pervert is amazing. "

"I've met him on a shoot and know some girls who met him. They think he's an asshole and I agree with them.

It's crazy who you guys support. He wasn't trying to win any Freedom of Speech issues. He was profiting on his love of abusing women."


now I think you can see my point...

look bash content all day long if you don't like it..... but don't bash the producer cause like I said before were all just pornographers... nothing more nothing less....

like I said before I think paul markham shoots the worst content on the planet.. but I still support his right to shoot it and id be on the picket lines with everyone else trying to get him out of jail...

where the fuck was everyone for max?

im honestly ashamed to call you guys colleagues in this industry....

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DirtyDanza

here is a good example.. Joe and I shoot completely different types of content.. he know's I support his right and I know he supports mine... weather he watches mine is a different story but one thing I know is joe would not be out there with picket signs saying send danza to jail.... (specally since my trailers were edited by the guys who edited the SAW)

the point is that seems only joe and I get is.. were all pornographers .....

to support freedom of speech is to support it all... weather you agree with it or not....

and remember the first amendment is backed up by the 2nd

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TCLGirls

Yea I don't agree Max should have been in jail either.

I don't think anyone here, including Paul, said that they are happy to see Max in jail. Maybe Paul can correct me if he feels differently, but I just did not read that in his comments.

Agent 488

that's epic ...........

u-Bob

Whether or not your like his content is irrelevant...

What happened to him, could happen to all of us

TCLGirls

There's no need to get all snarky with "reading comprehension" insults.


Like I said before, I haven't read anything in this thread where Paul said Max should be prevented from producing porn or that Max should be in jail.

The most extreme things Paul said was that he thinks Max is a pervert, and ass hole, and that he degrades women. That's tame and nothing to get all upset about. The whole world views pornographers in the same light to some degree or another...might as well get used to it.

DirtyDanza

I apologize for the insult .... did not mean it as an insult more of sarcastic but your right it was a bit uncalled for.. apologize for the insult ....


and I see we agree on the whole "were all pornographers" thing

to say he degrades women.. then um.. were all guilty for selling content on the web right?

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JustDaveXxx

Nice post dude.


I think a dude plunging another dude in the ass is way worse than anything Max has ever put out.

How many strait dudes who end up trying gay porn, because they need the money, end up going home after doing a shoot, crying in their pillows late night with a sore ass saying "i cant believe i did that?'?


I dont like gay porn and I would never watch gay porn but i would never want to see people going to jail because they shot it.


Lastly; i think a jury of 12 would be more disgusted with 5 dudes plowing one dude in the ass over anything Stagliano or Max Hardcore ever put out.

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Paul Markham I know what the girls you shoot are like because I see what you're like you idiot fuck. Degrade and abuse girls? You've never degraded a girl by paying her for sex?

Stop being so fucking JEALOUS of Max Hardcore being a billion and one times better than you at what YOU do. Does it hurt to know that in your field you're the lowest of the low? You don't think that every time a girl takes her clothes off in front of you she's a thousand times more disgusted than when Max is pissing into her mouth?

Think of that next time you decide its time to perv out and hire a girl you disgusting old fuck.

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Geee, Dirty ain't looking too drunk on this one

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I don;t drink

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Yay the king is back!!

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funny ... your speaking of 2002 I was there and I remember it a little bit different....

way I remember it Max was in his tighty whities and still willing to throw down on steve ... I even remember what it was over....

way I remember it was they all got up in each others faces then everyone kind of went their own ways.. Max wasnt to scared either was steve...

I'd say they both held their own... one thing I don;t remember was max being pushed in any type of pool... maybe it was before the whole jacuzzi incident but I just don;t remember it...

I think theres a pic floating around or the staredown.........


I just don't remember there being any punches or pushes more like bunch of doods acting like doods do when they all think they can kick each other's asses .... NOTHING..

ADG or JFK someone find the stare down pic aug 2002 internext late night pool side....

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well is good Max is making this interesting discussion

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cordoba

He said that he was disgusted by the support shown to Max on this board. = He's disgusted that we don't think max should be in jail = he thinks max should be in jail.

RandyD

The guys a beast

cam_girls

how long is a piece of string?

if you're going to debate an issue no one here could resolve,

atleast stop equating CONSENTUAL ADULTS with the be all and end all of being right, moral, legal...


BUMFIGHTS used the consent of vagrants to tattoo their foreheads and pull their teeth out with pliars.

Just because the law says you can do it, doesn't make it right!

66% of people would deliver a lethal electric shock to other people because the orders came from an authority.

Try to judge or assess the situation without jumping up to higher ground with the magic copout CONSENTUAL ACT.




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I've read enough of this thread, so here are some bullet points for y'all:

1. Max Hardcore has a right to shoot porn. I would fight and die for his right to produce the kind of porn he produces. It is consensual, and all performers are over 18.

2. The kind of porn Max shoots is, in my opinion, abusive, disgusting and sick. Some people like that shit, I do not so I don't watch it.

3. Just because a girl asks to be 'raped", gets off on it, seeks it out and is 100% okay with it does NOT mean that that girl is not mentally-disturbed. Does she have the right to want to be raped? Yes. Does she need serious psychological help? Yes.

4. Do porn producers like Max "exploit" girls like I described in Point #3? Perhaps. Is it his right to do so as long as he acts in accordance to the law? Yes.

5. Some girls may THINK they "want it" and are "okay" with abusive, degrading sex acts, but in reality are financially desperate and/or mentally unbalanced. Is this Max's "fault"? Absolutely not. See Point #4.

6. Should the Government do it's best to regulate both porn producers like Max and financially desperate and/or mentally-disturbed female performers in an attempt to "protect them from themselves and/or the general public"? In THEORY: perhaps. In ACTUALITY: no fucking way.

Conclusions:

1. If you don't like something - whether it be Max Hardcore or Disney - then here's an idea......DON'T WATCH IT.

2. If the Government wants to fuck with you, you're fucked, regardless of if you're "right" (or even have rights). You're fucked, period.

3. Knowing Conclusion #2, producers like Max Hardcore must realize they are living on the edge of tolerance and, well, these things happen when that's where you live.

BOTTOM LINE: Max has the right to do what he does but should not be shocked when what he does causes him problems (and I'm sure he's not, he's a very smart man).

So Max: move somewhere where the Government is more tolerant of your right to produce the type of content you produce. Perhaps Paul Markham's country?

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Paul F Little did nothing obscene. He pushed the line and was a 'target' that got set up.

I do not enjoy his sort of content but a lot of people did.

I am glad he is no longer imprisoned.

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I knew you'd find it....

thank you sir.....

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I support Paul Little's right to shoot porn.

I don't support his right to abuse girls just because he pays them and gets them to sign a model release.

What none of you know is what he did to models before his style of published work became so extreme. I do, because I have spoken to the girls he did it to.

You don't have the moral right to pay people, get their consent and do what you like to them. Whether you have the legal right is up to a court.

Pissing into a girls mouth ISN'T obscene??????????????????

I have never shot or done anything most normal people don't do in normal life.

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cordoba

Valid argument, up to a point. I think the producers of those bum fights should be lined up against a wall and shot.

I think what's irritating people here is that this isn't a radical feminist forum, or Paul Markham's christian faith board - we're all making money from porn. O.K, Max's stuff is a little more extreme than most, but surely every one of those girls knew what they were letting themselves in for. Was he paying 10X the going rate or something? If girls were 'only doing it for the money' and really didn't want to be fucked up the ass and role play degraded, surely they could have gone to another less demanding studio to pay off their debts or whatever?

I agree that being 'legal' isn't the be all and end all. But there is a slippery slope when people start judging other people for legal behaviour (obviously Max was nailed over some stupid technicality). Every single one of us on this forum will have made cash from a girl who was only doing it for the money. I'd worry more about the millions of kids in Asia who made the trainers you wear, or the iPad you own, slaving away in shithole factories every day because they needed the money (or their parents did).

The girls who do the extreme porn shoots are probably the ones who actually enjoy it and aren't doing it for the money, (like 99% of the rest of porn actresses).

Being a mentally ravaged, homeless bum, with a subnormal iq, desperate for his next meal, forced to fight his only friends in the world, is a little bit different to some slut agreeing to pretend to dislike being taken up the ass hard so she can afford a European vacation.

Did the American moral police ever go after the bum fights producers btw? Doubt it. Unless they were doing porn as well.

cordoba

You're basically saying, to anyone who understands english and logic, that you think anybody who films pissing scenes should go to jail.

Paul, most men in their sixties find that it is a distant memory to have their hands all over the naked, nubile flesh of an innocent, 18 or 19 year old girl, unfortunately, and it certainly is not normal to make money from it.