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Old 02-27-2011, 10:24 PM   #1
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How much more affiliates will sign if pay 60-70% ?

How much more affiliates will sign if pay 60-70% rather then 50%.
Is it even better to pay them 35$ per sign up!

What kind of bonus do you suggest to give to have more affiliates and more traffic?
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:31 PM   #2
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Old 02-27-2011, 10:39 PM   #3
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If your site is crap, offering them 60-70 percent wont help any. Not saying your site is, just a general statement. Work smarter not harder

Lately I have been leaning towards pay-per-signups when programs allow it because rebills, even for the top sites, seem to be at a stand still.
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You could offer 95% and I wouldn't be influenced. PPS or nothing for me. Not sure how many webmasters have the same mentality, but revshare is no longer a payout option I'll consider.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:11 AM   #7
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With the right program still rev share is amazing. However, I have learned my lesson and now all links out there are run through a script of mine that at any point I can switch to PPS if I see the avg $ per sale isn't doing above the pps amount.

To tackle your question though... If with 60-70 I can make sales and the ratio is decent for my traffic I'm for sure into it.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:19 AM   #8
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What will Affiliates consider?
#1 A site that makes sales.

I don't care about anything but the money, Forget the BS % and fake double payout weekends.


If I send traffic to your site will I make more than if I send traffic to a different site.
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Old 02-28-2011, 12:20 AM   #9
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I use to too but rebills are down a lot lately
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Old 02-28-2011, 05:25 AM   #10
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How much more affiliates will sign if pay 60-70% rather then 50%.
Is it even better to pay them 35$ per sign up!

What kind of bonus do you suggest to give to have more affiliates and more traffic?
you only really need 1-3 affilates. because it doesn't matter how many you have only how many are selling.

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Old 02-28-2011, 05:52 AM   #12
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When i like the program and content i will sign up also for 30-40%

And when i dont like 60-70% isnt an option
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Old 02-28-2011, 06:06 AM   #13
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We offer 70% at EuroRevenue. No shaving going on here I can tell you!
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Old 02-28-2011, 08:53 AM   #14
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It depends on all the other details related to the program. If everything else is good and you are offering 70% then it's a strong plus. But if your tour is full of leaks and the site has a bunch of cross sales and $3 trials then even 90% wouldn't be enough.
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Old 02-28-2011, 09:19 AM   #16
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great tours, no traffic leaks and sites that CONVERT.

If I have to chose between 50% revshare at 1:200 and 90% revshare at 1:10000, guess which one I'll promote...
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You could offer 95% and I wouldn't be influenced. PPS or nothing for me. Not sure how many webmasters have the same mentality, but revshare is no longer a payout option I'll consider.
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Why?

im curious to hear your reasons on want to loose money?


and if you want pps only ill pay you 20-30pps to promote our stuff....

just curious why you would want to lose money on sites we all know retain ?
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im curious to hear your reasons on want to loose money?


and if you want pps only ill pay you 20-30pps to promote our stuff....

just curious why you would want to lose money on sites we all know retain ?
I would guess it's because of the volatility of the adult industry, and how many programs, billers, banks, and payment companies have gone down in the last couple of years. It can take years for that "lifetime revshare" to prove it's worth, which doesn't help if a company doesn't exist 3 years from now. $35 today is worth a lot more than a possible $40 in 2 years
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You could offer 95% and I wouldn't be influenced. PPS or nothing for me. Not sure how many webmasters have the same mentality, but revshare is no longer a payout option I'll consider.
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That is one opinion.

I prefer revshare every time. And I think that 50% is more than fair. I always tell program owners who try to set up a "special" percentage rate that is higher to please NOT do that.

50% is already unheard of in any other business. And anything higher gives the program owner the temptation to do things shady in order to stay profitable.

Trust me, real webmasters with experience want nothing more or less than a fair partnership that allows both parties to make money together honestly.
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I use to too but rebills are down a lot lately
Not for everyone. Check out our site. When you have a member area like we do and a reasonable price people stay forever.

I'm sure rebills are bad for cookie cutter sites that barely update though.
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I'm sure rebills are bad for cookie cutter sites that barely update though.
Yes, this is not a good time for all those Mega generic sites. They were the first to suffer from the effect of piracy for sure.
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it's a myth that revshare pays more.. when you consider all the details, additional risk you take on, TVM, etc it ends up about the same and in many cases actually less than PPS...
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I would guess it's because of the volatility of the adult industry, and how many programs, billers, banks, and payment companies have gone down in the last couple of years. It can take years for that "lifetime revshare" to prove it's worth, which doesn't help if a company doesn't exist 3 years from now. $35 today is worth a lot more than a possible $40 in 2 years
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it's a myth that revshare pays more.. when you consider all the details, additional risk you take on, TVM, etc it ends up about the same and in many cases actually less than PPS...
pretty general statement. like was said earlier, if the site has content to keep the member around and the content is updated, revshare could pay more.

we've got affiliates that earn more than $45 per signup and i've got some that earn way more than that. our sites retain members and we make efforts to keep them around.
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It's the cookie length I look for, if it's 1 day I feel like it's a scam, but if it's 5 days + that's ok and I do love the 30 day cookie programs
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You could offer 95% and I wouldn't be influenced. PPS or nothing for me. Not sure how many webmasters have the same mentality, but revshare is no longer a payout option I'll consider.
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I'd rather have 20 rebills than a small 35$ PPS
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it's a myth that revshare pays more.. when you consider all the details, additional risk you take on, TVM, etc it ends up about the same and in many cases actually less than PPS...
If revshare wasn't profitable then there would be no programs... none paying pps, none paying revshare... Do you really think we lose money on every pps sale?

we make our money on rebills, if you can't then maybe you should consider how you are selling your product instead.
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If revshare wasn't profitable then there would be no programs... none paying pps, none paying revshare... Do you really think we lose money on every pps sale?

we make our money on rebills, if you can't then maybe you should consider how you are selling your product instead.
I'm not saying revshare isn't profitable, just saying it's usually not any more profitable than PPS... if sponsor offers both PPS and revshare, it really doesn't make much difference what option affiliate picks... at the end of the day when all is considered they will make about the same with either option...
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pretty general statement. like was said earlier, if the site has content to keep the member around and the content is updated, revshare could pay more.

we've got affiliates that earn more than $45 per signup and i've got some that earn way more than that. our sites retain members and we make efforts to keep them around.
when the site is good and it retains, it's good... it has nothing to do with how affiliate gets paid... if most of your affiliates earn $45/member, then you could just as easily pay around $45 PPS... and that would probably attract many potential affiliates, as many affiliates prefer PPS over revshare...
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You could offer 95% and I wouldn't be influenced. PPS or nothing for me. Not sure how many webmasters have the same mentality, but revshare is no longer a payout option I'll consider.
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are you for real? only pps? im still averaging $115 from a revshare sponsor, sure there are just a handful worth promoting over revshare, but those handful are really worth it.


p.s. I'm also averaging more then $35/signup revshare from sponsors paying $20-$25 pps
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when the site is good and it retains, it's good... it has nothing to do with how affiliate gets paid... if most of your affiliates earn $45/member, then you could just as easily pay around $45 PPS... and that would probably attract many potential affiliates, as many affiliates prefer PPS over revshare...
Exactly. If a program is going to say "our affiliates easily earn $xx per member", then set that as a PPS rate and enjoy the extra traffic
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Have a look at the members area. I usually choose revshare but if there are more 3rd party upsells than content, better choose PPS.

In my opinion 50% are ok, it's a fair share for affiliate and program owner.
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